*Triggers Possible* A research paper: "The child sexual abuse material survivor as homo sacer: bare life under cyber-libertarianism"

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*Triggers Possible* A research paper: "The child sexual abuse material survivor as homo sacer: bare life under cyber-libertarianism"

axlr

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Looking for sources for a school project the other night led me to an interesting paper. It primarily concerns female survivors of CSAM exploitation but I'm sharing it here as men can go through the same thing and I'm sure others here might find something in it, it's honed into a topic that I've spent time thinking about but never necessarily wanted to talk about (the plight of 'popular' CSAM survivors):


Some choice excerpts:

"Jane Does abide in what Agamben (2004: 1) called the ‘no-man’s land between political law and public fact’, where legal norms do not apply and the infliction of harm can occur without consequence to the perpetrator. This state of exception is legitimised and indeed required by the cyber-libertarian formulation of ‘digital rights’, in which the Jane Does are denied their rights to privacy, freedom and justice in the name of those very same rights, marking CSAM survivors as the ‘homo sacer’ (Agamben, 1998) of the online status quo."

"In the state of exception provided by the Tor network, offenders who produce and share CSAM take on a heroic status: no longer criminals but rebels who flouted the law to the benefit of the paedophile collective. On Tor hidden services, information about two of the primary offenders who produced CSAM of the Jane Does was available. One offender’s legal name was found in 50 comments and the other offender’s name was found in 49 messages. The appreciative tone of commentary is evident in references to them as ‘HEROES of the CHILD PORN UNIVERSE’, as ‘legends’ and by other laudatory titles. A particularly alarming thread on a Tor offender forum provided the details of the prison where one of the Jane Doe perpetrators was incarcerated, and encouraged other offenders to ‘send him something for the commissary’ to ‘thank’ him for CSAM production. The authors passed this information on to the appropriate authorities."

"Offenders attributed these CSAM series an iconic status within the history of child sex offending. In the following excerpt, an offender compared the level of exposure faced by Jane Doe to that of a celebrity. He observed: ‘There’s probably literally millions of pedos who know who Jane Doe is. If millions of people know who you are then some of them will be bat shit crazy. It’s why celebrities almost always have stalkers and need body guards.’ This quote was unusual for its acknowledgement that Jane Doe might come to harm because of CSAM distribution. CSAM survivors featured in offender discourse as almost entirely objectified; the targets of sexual fantasy, possessiveness and aggression, but almost never as subjects with their own rights and needs, separate from offender fantasy and distortion. There was a high level of obsession and privacy invasion evident in the discussions analysed for the study.

In the state of exception provided by the Tor network, the Jane Does were stalked, hunted and threatened. Our analysis found that the legal names of two Jane Does were in wide circulation in online offender communities. One Jane Doe was referred to by name in 307 messages, and another Jane Doe referred to by name in 1,130 messages. Offenders sought to identify and share contemporary information about the victims. One offender said: ‘You can google “Jane Doe today,” and see what she looks like at 30.’ Another said, ‘Last I heard, she was [in certain profession], look up her name and you will find her.’ For one Jane Doe, offenders harvested and collected a myriad of photos of her from social media, creating a ‘zip’ file of her adult photos which they uploaded and shared."



Obviously this article has some rather controversial conclusions on privacy rights. I think that can be a fine thing to discuss so long as we're respectful about it. I'm also interested in talking about some of the nuances of being a CSAM survivor when it comes to the media being public, a more personable discussion that isn't quite a debate on this or that political topic. How does one cope with such things being out there and available, does one fear being recognized? How do you reconcile that? I've personally created a distance, accepted it as inevitable, but others may have their own means. Interested to hear.
 
Hey Axlr, first I want to say I think it’s incredible you’re able to study this in school. At least where I come from survivors of trafficking typically don’t grow up to have access these academic spaces where they participate as researchers. How has it been reading and researching these topics, has it been triggering for you or brought any feelings up? I’m just curious.

As for your question. That is incredibly scary what that young woman is going through, continuing to be documented in online pedophile spaces. I didn’t know obsession could get to that point and it frightens me.
I was disturbed at the fact that I could be recognized in my current life from CSAM. Slowly I came to the logical conclusion that I look too different and am in a different country from when I was a child to be recognized on the street or in public situations.
But, I was recognized, from some porn that was filmed unconsensually of me when I was a teenager (if this was from pre-18 or after 18, I don’t know). It was very uncomfortable interaction and I ran off immediately. Everything felt so out of my control.
So I wouldn’t be tracked and found by those from my past, I keep anonymous. I don’t post pictures of myself on social media and I ask any friends to do the same. I avoid to have a public face. The privacy helps my mental state at least. I blend into the crowds but occasionally get harassed or singled out in public. It bothers me. I don’t cope, I just avoid. And cherish the spaces I do have which are safe and private.

The concern for those who were victims of CSAM is safety and harassment in our current lives. Though the abuse is over, we have to worry over that and manage our internal anxieties. Everyone should have the right to live free, public lives unafraid of the past. I don’t want to discourage you by my story, I was filmed at every stage in my life so it’s much more likely I would be recognized.
 
So I wouldn’t be tracked and found by those from my past, I keep anonymous. I don’t post pictures of myself on social media and I ask any friends to do the same. I avoid to have a public face. The privacy helps my mental state at least. I blend into the crowds but occasionally get harassed or singled out in public. It bothers me. I don’t cope, I just avoid. And cherish the spaces I do have which are safe and private.
I do the same. I struggle with sharing images of myself. Part of it is the "being recognized aspect" but it also just feels weird to document everything in photo and videos as an adult because so much was documented as a kid. This site is really the only place where I have shared photos openly. And, it never gets easier.

When I was younger, I would get recognized in LA. It was always "Hey Jarrad, are you still partying?" ...as if it were an invitation to hook up again. That stopped when I moved out of LA, but the video collectors are still in the back on my mind. Images and videos were traded like baseball cards. People wanted the whole "set." I don't have any way of knowing who is out there collecting "me." This is way too much info, but we each had a "starter pack" of our "firsts." It was sold as a mini collection. From there, other videos had to be purchased separately.

I don't think I would be recognized anymore. but I do wonder if guys are still collecting me.
 
How has it been reading and researching these topics, has it been triggering for you or brought any feelings up? I’m just curious.
It really isn't that much since I'm still an undergrad, but I've found it to be cathartic. It straddles a good line between having to out myself as a survivor while still feeling like I'm able to raise awareness about some of the things we go through. I do have a special issue with procrastination though on the subject, since it brings up so much emotions it's easy to want to avoid it. Reading this paper put me in a mental space I rarely go to for good reason, but ultimately I think the effect is more positive than negative. I just have to plan these assignments better so I don't end up procrastinating everything else too.

It was very uncomfortable interaction and I ran off immediately. Everything felt so out of my control.
I am very sorry that happened to you. It's strange that someone would feel so comfortable as to bring something like that up in public to another person's face. The audacity of some...

I don’t want to discourage you by my story
I don't think so, it's okay. You're all good, thanks for sharing. I wish I had something more helpful to say in response.

What's uncomfortable is knowing that it is out there (despite the efforts made by Take It Down)... there is simply no digital shelf-life. I try not to think about it.
I am confident something of me is out there somewhere. Even if it wasn't found, it was posted at one point. I just know it. It's so strange to think of childhood moments in retrospect knowing something like that is out there. Every moment is tainted by it somehow. Not ruined, there's still good memories, just... tainted.

I do the same. I struggle with sharing images of myself. Part of it is the "being recognized aspect" but it also just feels weird to document everything in photo and videos as an adult because so much was documented as a kid. This site is really the only place where I have shared photos openly. And, it never gets easier.
I had this problem even as a kid. When I was 10 or 11 my brother wanted to start a YouTube channel and this was before he knew he was trans so he was still a bubbly blonde haired girl and I got so upset by the prospect, he and my mom didn't get why I was so distressed at the idea of him making a YouTube channel with his face on it. I had a bit of paranoia over pedophilia. My brother wanted to get into acting since we live near LA but I was hesitant because I didn't want to be molested. I was sure it would happen if I did. I had that paranoia all throughout my childhood, though now I don't necessarily live in fear of it. I've come more to terms with it. It's strange to think though that I felt that way as a kid even though I didn't really remember what happened. I just had a bad feeling about it, worry of someone seeing me, even before I was ever bullied online or anything like that to make me feel stigmatized about showing my appearance.

I don't think I would be recognized anymore. but I do wonder if guys are still collecting me.
Sometimes it's not even a distressing thought, there's almost a morbid compliment in it. I guess that's just a consequence of desensitization.
 
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