I Thought I Knew What Happened…(Possible Triggers)

I Thought I Knew What Happened…(Possible Triggers)

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Registrant
It’s taken me a year but today I’m ready to post. I am a 65 year old male. Just before Covid’s lockdowns hit in Mar 2020, I was struggling sexually from looking at some grand jury reports for priest sex abuse. While I wasn’t abused by a priest, I was abused at 8 by a 14 year old boy. The abuse went on over a 9 month period. All these years I thought I knew what had happened. But in trying to write my story last year, I realized that I just remembered three incidents. In two of those I was bent over for an hour in his attempt at penetration. In the third time, I was able to hold off giving oral sex (which he wanted me to do.) I’ve been seeing a therapist for a year and have come to realize there were other times that my mind has disassociated from my memory. Knowing this boy’s sexual determination, I’m sure he got me to give him
oral sex on numerous occasions. The reason I believe this is that when I was 9, I was alone with my brother (just this once), and we were fondling each other. My brother was 14 and had a huge erection. Suddenly as if I was following a learned behavior, I took him
into my mouth. My brother freaked out and that ended quickly. But why would I do that if I hadn’t done it before? I must say the feeling of my brother filling my mouth did not seem unfamiliar. In my 20’s to late 40’s, I was in a gambling addiction. I started meeting mostly older, married men and started providing them mainly with oral sex (but twice something else.) Again why would I do this as I am a heterosexual male? I now believe I was doing it as it was a learned behavior when I was eight. It became part of my erotic template. I have now been married for 17 years and have not been with another man since 2001. But I am now struggling with thoughts and urges to give another man oral sex. I am fantasizing a lot about this lately. My wife knows it and things are very strained right now. I know if I do something stupid for a few minutes that it will be the end of a great marriage. But I am struggling mightily and hope to hear some wisdom from you all that can help me-Thanks!
 
Welcome here, I'm sorry for what has happened to you to make you need to be here. I think it is not uncommon when starting to face the issues of the past, to have new memories brought up, and I can imagine something with your brother you buried deep in your brain because it was so traumatic to have such an experience with a family member. I hope that you are able to work through the memories, and I hope that this site and the men here are able to help you with that. Perhaps a therapist, and even a couple's therapist, could be helpful to you in your healing journey. Please be gentle with yourself.
 
I too was 8. He too was 14. He made me give him oral. Thousands of times since I have fantasized about doing it again. Those fantasies were like a bungee cord that pulled me forever back to him. For decades those fantasies kept me on my knees. But 6 months ago the fantasies stopped. After decades being held captive by them, I am finally free.

I have heard that in war when a soldier is pinned down by an enemy with no route for escape, his only route to freedom is to charge toward the enemy. The last 18 months have felt like that. It was only after facing what I had been running from that I have been able to heal.

I am sorry for what happened to you. I am sorry that so many years later, the shockwaves of the abuse ripple through your marriage. You can heal. You can be free of those fantasies. There is a way through, even if you can't see it.
 
Welcome and sorry to hear about your abuse. Its great you found us and have gotten up the nerve to talk about it. Perhaps talking with us and getting it off your mind will help ease the urge. For me stuff will just keep cycling in my head and I can't get rid of it. But when I finally get to voice it to someone the burden eases.
 
Good for you for posting here. There is an interesting video someone posted here on the thread Sexual Difficulties Following Abuse.

The therapist in that thread uses a wonderful phrase: Neurons that fire together wire together. It perfectly captures why I have in the past tried to recreate my CSA even though I am not gay.

He talks about the approach of understanding why someone craves something that is lodged in their head because it is associated with trauma and then "spitting in the soup." In other words, making that activity unappealing.

For me, once I understood that same sex attraction was a byproduct of the awful abuse I suffered, it made the idea so unpleasant it simply turned me off. I realized I was revictimizing myself. A horrible thought.

I do know this area is more complicated for men who are gay, since they have to separate their natural desires and behaviors from those that are born out of trauma. That is difficult for me, too, in other areas. But in the specific case you talk about, it's been a simple fix. Understanding the origins make me recoil at the thoughts.

Take care.
 
Good for you for posting here. There is an interesting video someone posted here on the thread Sexual Difficulties Following Abuse.

The therapist in that thread uses a wonderful phrase: Neurons that fire together wire together. It perfectly captures why I have in the past tried to recreate my CSA even though I am not gay.

He talks about the approach of understanding why someone craves something that is lodged in their head because it is associated with trauma and then "spitting in the soup." In other words, making that activity unappealing.

For me, once I understood that same sex attraction was a byproduct of the awful abuse I suffered, it made the idea so unpleasant it simply turned me off. I realized I was revictimizing myself. A horrible thought.

I do know this area is more complicated for men who are gay, since they have to separate their natural desires and behaviors from those that are born out of trauma. That is difficult for me, too, in other areas. But in the specific case you talk about, it's been a simple fix. Understanding the origins make me recoil at the thoughts.

Take care.
Good for you for posting here. There is an interesting video someone posted here on the thread Sexual Difficulties Following Abuse.

The therapist in that thread uses a wonderful phrase: Neurons that fire together wire together. It perfectly captures why I have in the past tried to recreate my CSA even though I am not gay.

He talks about the approach of understanding why someone craves something that is lodged in their head because it is associated with trauma and then "spitting in the soup." In other words, making that activity unappealing.

For me, once I understood that same sex attraction was a byproduct of the awful abuse I suffered, it made the idea so unpleasant it simply turned me off. I realized I was revictimizing myself. A horrible thought.

I do know this area is more complicated for men who are gay, since they have to separate their natural desires and behaviors from those that are born out of trauma. That is difficult for me, too, in other areas. But in the specific case you talk about, it's been a simple fix. Understanding the origins make me recoil at the thoughts.

Take care.
I too was 8. He too was 14. He made me give him oral. Thousands of times since I have fantasized about doing it again. Those fantasies were like a bungee cord that pulled me forever back to him. For decades those fantasies kept me on my knees. But 6 months ago the fantasies stopped. After decades being held captive by them, I am finally free.

I have heard that in war when a soldier is pinned down by an enemy with no route for escape, his only route to freedom is to charge toward the enemy. The last 18 months have felt like that. It was only after facing what I had been running from that I have been able to heal.

I am sorry for what happened to you. I am sorry that so many years later, the shockwaves of the abuse ripple through your marriage. You can heal. You can be free of those fantasies. There is a way through, even if you can't see it.
I too was 8. He too was 14. He made me give him oral. Thousands of times since I have fantasized about doing it again. Those fantasies were like a bungee cord that pulled me forever back to him. For decades those fantasies kept me on my knees. But 6 months ago the fantasies stopped. After decades being held captive by them, I am finally free.

I have heard that in war when a soldier is pinned down by an enemy with no route for escape, his only route to freedom is to charge toward the enemy. The last 18 months have felt like that. It was only after facing what I had been running from that I have been able to heal.

I am sorry for what happened to you. I am sorry that so many years later, the shockwaves of the abuse ripple through your marriage. You can heal. You can be free of those fantasies. There is a way through, even if you can't see it.
Mm
 
Dan99, Thanks for your reply and comforting words. I have started to watch the video. So far, so good. I hope I can get to the point where I can spit in the soup…
 
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