"You Don't Need To Remember"

"You Don't Need To Remember"

Tribear

Registrant
I would like to share something that means a lot to me as I try to recover. It's kind of long, but I think it's worth consideration by other survivors. I could sure use some company in considering it.

I just read a recommended site about recovered memoriies of sexual abuse. It was a valuable resource, and I'm glad it was posted. But something that was said on the site (and many other places too) reminded me of something I feel very strongly about. I hope someone else understands how I feel, and will say so if they do.

I hope I can say this like I think and feel it. It took years for it to gel in my mind, but now I know why I've searched so hard for clarity about my memories, and need at least SOME.

I feel misunderstood, and even betrayed, by those who say, "Whether your abuse accounts really happened or not doesn't matter. What matters is treating your present symptoms, and your claiming a good quality life from now on".

I say that's easy for them to say, and it's also crap unless you have ABSOLUTELY no other choice.

I've observed those around me, both near and far.

A large part of who anyone is, is their journey along the way--the good and bad people and experiences they've known. We use and need the facts of our history for our sense of identity. Total amnesiacs must go through hell.

Ask anyone (including therapists who say that the past doesn't matter) about themselves, about who they are, about what makes them tick and able to continue on in their life.

They'll eventually tell stories about Grandma and Christmas, family traditions and gatherings, some of which they continue to practice to the present day. When they are down or lonely or sick, they often fall back on those warm memories to soothe them. They look at pictures, they make phone calls. They draw on what was, as well as what is.

What if in the middle of such a warm recounting, I said to them, "First, I don't necessarily believe that story. It's a memory, and memories can be corrupted. But second, it doesn't really matter now anyway--it's old history. Concentrate on today and tomorrow, and you'll be just fine."? What if I could take away their trust in those memories? I think they would have a very hard time defining themselves.

We are buildings made of the bricks that were our past, good, bad, or in-between. The problem is when the very existence of many of our bricks is totally in question.

For instance, I'm angry at my mom, I barely speak to her. I can live with that in myself if she did even a few things I later remembered. But I wouldn't feel right about that if I'm just plain wrong, and I'm falsely accusing her. That's not fair to her, and I suppose not to me either. I can't prove it, and she denies it. No one else has approached her with similar accusations, so I can't use that to give me clarity. It feels crazy, this 'recovered past' stuff.

Some have said, "Well then, just talk to her once in a while, or send her a card, in case it didn't happen". Yeah swell, then the body memories start. There seems to be NO middle ground about this.

She's not the only one--my dad, several others, which way was it really? The old nicer version, or the updated abusive version?

Then there's me living on Social Security, my head too scrambled to keep a full time job. I used to earn good money, and held a steady job for decades. Now, if lots of the bad stuff happened, I can accept it better. I mean, who could blame me? Recovery from PTSD takes time.

But if normal day-to-day pressure alone did me in, (I've never been a diagnosed with a delusional chemical inbalance), what chance do I even have of recovery?? Did I just not measure up? I SEEMED stronger than many who are still going, so what the heck happened?

No, I don't want to ask the questions forever, if the answers are unfindable. I get that. I am trying to find new ways in life that are not about abuse/not abuse. But who I knew, and what they did, are a part of my fabric as much as anyone else's. People are drawn to their heritage when it's good, and they build memorials to reconcile tragedies and those who suffered when it's bad. How can anyone deny me my normal human need to do the same thing in my life?

I don't deny that some are well-intentioned to say, "Just make your life about tomorrow". But I think many of them lean hard on their own emotionally-remembered yesterdays to get through their own day, while they say my focus is misdirected. I think some more honesty and understanding about that in themselves would help them help me.

I hope I got it across like I feel it. It's not about 'Therapists are just dorks', a nice distortion that would be. It's about, "Hey, we all build our identities on our history, and unlike yours, mine is WAYYYY up-in-the-air. I need to define it if I can, and it's not an easy thing to give that up. Can you please understand and respect that, and work with me on that basis?"

Regards,

Tribear
 
Good morning, Tribear,

I think that you did an excellent job of expressing yourself in this post.

I hope that you will print this out and take it with you when you see your therapist next--or anyone else you feel is trying to dissuade you from recovering your identity.

If you look up the word 'recovery' in the dictionary, one of the primary definitions is "to get back or regain that which has been lost due to illness or injury..".

The injury of the trauma of sexual abuse ia a serious one. And left untreated for so many years, this injury grew to infect my life with many forms of psychological and spiritual illness.

This is surely the case with me and other survivors of sexual abuse. I lost parts of my past and parts of my identity due to the injury inflicted on me by the abuser. I grew ill as a the effects of the sexual abuse manifested themselves in my life. I grew ill from alcoholism, self-hatred, internalized homophobia and a plethora of other types of 'dis-ease'.

Recovering from the effects of sexual abuse for me has meant that I get back my well-being, my health, my positive self-image and a new, more loving understanding of my indentity. As you so aptly, put it----'the good bricks and the bad."
It's all mine to 'recover' if I am to feel whole again.

It was pain that first brought my memories to the forefront of conciousness for me. This pain, I believe, came mainly from my resistance to the memories. Nowadays that I feel more secure in the knowledge that I am loved and supported by guys here and elsewhere in my life, my resistance is less and the pain is too.

I hope this helps you half as much as you have helped me today.

Thanks for having the courage to stand with yourself and speak for what you feel is right for you.

Our caregivers are usually just guessing at what is best for us. It really helps them when we are able to verbalize to them how we feel and what we believe.

Thanks, again, Tribear.

Your fellow survivor from sexual abuse,
 
Tribear
I saw this in todays paper, I'll try to find out some more because it sounds interesting.

Recovered memories have had a lot of bad press, some of it deserved I've no doubt. But although I have always remembered what happened to me I have met some people who have recovered memories, and they seem real enough.
Dave

STUDY BACKS THEORY OF HIDDEN MEMORY.

Scientists have shown for the first time how the brain can intentionally blot out unwanted memories, it was revealed today
The discovery lends weight to Sigmund Freuds century old thesis about the existence of voluntary memory suppression.
It also raises questions about cases of childhood sexual abuse in which accounts of victims have been challenged.
US researchers conducted a study which shows people are capable of blocking experiences they do not want to recall until they no longer can be.
The findings also revealed parts of the brain involved in memory suppression - the left and right frontal cortex and hippocampus.
Freud, father of psychoanalysis, proposed the mind could choose to bury traumatic memories and keep them out of the consciousness.
Professor John Gabrieli, a Psychologist at Stanford University, California, said: The big news is weve shown how the human brain blocks an unwanted memory.
 
Your post really touched home for me in many ways.

For a long time now I have not had any contact with my family. The only contact was when my mom died a couple of years ago but I did not have any words of conversation with my dad or older brother and other relatives. Of course my younger brother decided to go into attack mode (while trying to be supportive if you can figure that one out). And yes it hurt when the last ten years of life, I had not been able to talk to my mom because of all of the family crap that took place and now I can never talk to her again in person.

However, during that period of time, it would have done no good for me to talk to them. My father was the abuser, he was the sick one and he had everyone believing I was brainwashed by therapists into all of these memories. So for my health and survival, I had to make this choice to stay away but my father is the one that forced the decision as it was either tell him my memories were not true and be in the family or stick to what I knew and be an outcast. It was very tough indeed.

I remember hearing at one time that the past that knowing the facts didn't really matter as I had to live in the present for the future. Well at the time, these things did matter because my life was so fragmented that remember past things began to fill in the missing pieces. Without these things, I would be a bunch of gaping holes. Of course with time now, the memories and knowing all the particular details has diminished. They don't hold quite the importance in my life as they once did. And I am at a point where I will probably never know the true story so I don't put as much energy into these things anymore. I focus my energy on taking care of myself now. I do so entirely agree with you that these memories are as much a part of our fabric of our life as anything else. That is so true in my opinion.

Don't know if sharing this about my life will help much, but I could see so much of my life in what you wrote (except with my father being the abuser).

Don
 
This Prof' is a clever guy by the look of things.
I've had a very quick look at some of his stuff, it needs a lot of reading though.
But if you're interested here's the links.
Dave


Research reveals brain has biological mechanism to block unwanted memories

For the first time, researchers at Stanford University and the University of Oregon have shown that a biological mechanism exists in the human brain to block unwanted memories.

( for the full story visit the following link )

https://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/04/memory114.html


Also have a look at this speech transcript, there's a lot of interesting stuff there as well.

https://www.wonderfest.org/Media/Fallibility_of_Memory.pdf


Here's a link to his biography.

https://www.oecd.org/document/46/0,2340,en_2649_14935397_19514926_1_1_1_1,00.html
 
Tribear - from my very recent experience (understanding of my situation by others), I get the feeling that people in general don't have the frame of reference that we have and therefore cannot visual that reality. When they make comments like 'did/didn't happen' it may be that they just don't understand how people could do these things and thus fail to comprehend it. I have some very supportive friends that do believe me (I am lucky I know)but they would never start a conversation on the topic because they feel uncomfortable and don't want to upset me if I'm in a positive frame of mind.

'It took years to gel in my mind' - well my abuse was always in my mind, I just buried it & buried it and then just to make sure it wouldn't hurt me, I buried it again.

My friends tell me what I have to look forward to - I think they are telling me that there are positive aspects to the future (holiday in Prague very shortly & that I have people around me that care). They don't want to tell me that my past is meaningless, but I don't think they really know how to deal with it either.

As for your head being scrambled - I can really appreciate where you're coming from with this one! About a week before Christmas, I was at work and the festering boil of my memories were working their way to the surface - I could hear conversations between myself as I am now (46) and as I was at the age I was abused (12)- this was interspersed with other people from work and outside of work all chipping in with comments in my head (none of these additional comments were really happening at the time but I believe this is when I reached my limit of coping). This is when I left work & sought help - if I hadn't??????

There are now about 8 people that know what happened to me (or the basics anyway).

When they say 'Make your life about tomorrow', I think it is because they do care (even if it's not obvious) and wish better times for you.

As for history, my reference points have all been blown out of the water and I am just discovering who I am again. I cannot deny my history - it is all too evident in my heart and soul!

Tribear, I wish you the best and hope I have understood some of your points of reference. I think we might both be up-in-the-air at present but you have my support. If any of my comments appear presumptious, sorry they are not meant to be - it's difficult sometimes to work out exactly where someone is coming from when you can see their words, but not hear them spoken. I've had my worst day today since I sought help (although it has got better as the day has gone on), I don't expect every day to be good now, but there is a future for a new me. Please take that chance as well - it's a long hard road.

*Marathons always built more stamina than a sprint!

*I wrote my first poem in ages last night - it's in the poetry section & called seasons. Have a look, it might help - ther's some good stuff there by other people (I don't know if mine ranks, or if it's just rank).

Best wishes - Rik
 
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