What does it mean?

What does it mean?
John - it was hanginon who wrote that quote that I took - I was asking hangin on -

but thanks tho -

actually i have heard that Souter is gay -

but again - hearsay it is -

I haven't well - no proof that is
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sorry i was bordering on the cheap punch line
 
Mark,

Hearsay is evidence, it's just not generally admissible.

:)

John
 
OK, one further Supreme Court digression. I love this story. Following quote is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Franklin_Powell,_Jr. :
Bowers v. Hardwick
Powell was the swing vote in Bowers v. Hardwick, opting to go with the majority ruling which upheld Georgia's sodomy laws. He was reportedly distressed over how to vote. A conservative clerk advised him to uphold the ban, and Powell, who believed he had never met a gay person (not realizing that one of his own clerks was a closeted homosexual), voted to uphold Georgia's law, though Powell in a concurring opinion expressed concern at the length of the prison terms prescribed by the law. [1]

In 1990, after his retirement from the Court, he said, "I think I made a mistake in the Hardwick case," marking one of the few times a justice expressed regret for one of his previous votes.
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OK, so Powell retired, and Pres. George Bush I tried to fill his seat unsuccessfully first with Robert Bork (who was rejected after confirmation hearings), then with Douglas Ginsburg (who withdrew his nomination after it was learned he'd smoked dope as a student). Finally, George I came up with Anthony Kennedy. So, the man who could have kept Bowers v Hardwick from becoming law in the first place was replaced by the man who wrote the majority decision overruling Bowers v. Hardwick. Irony is just sooooooooo delicious sometimes, as is poetic justice.

John
 
I am still trying to figure this case out. Good thing I never became a lawyer! ;)

Much love,
Larry
 
Dewey,

Bringing myself back on-thread, you have said you're struggling what, if anything a same-sex attraction means beyond same-sex behavior. I guess my somewhat windy answer boils down to: whatever you want it to. If you want to be the least "gay" guy in the world, you've got plenty of brothers out there to be a not-gay-same-sex-loving man. Such folk do, indeed, exist in real life and not just in Brokeback Mountain. If you want something more, that's an option, too, but the key is you, and what you want.

{{{{again, Dwayne}}}}

John

PS: Mark notes that you're a sportsman. One of my gay D.C. cop friends is an ex-AAA ball-player, and now rodeos...there's a lot of options, dude.
 
I guess the answer to my question is there is no specific answer, or the answers vary as much as individuals do.

Thanks for the input.
 
I think Gertrude Stein said something very much like that Dewey.

Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas - the most famous Lebanese Authors/couple (well in the 20th Century)

:)
 
So, like, if Gertrude and Alice were Lebanese, does that mean Danny Thomas was Lesbian?

;)

John
 
I think he was transvestite
 
It was interesting to see this post, I started a similar thread awhile back, 'what does it mean to be gay'? outside of physical attraction. I don't think there's a definitive answer.

Once I chatted with a guy online for awhile about being gay. He emailed me a sort of gay cliffs notes. It included a list of movies to rent ("All About Eve" "Stepford Wives" etc) books to read on art, design, fashion, etc, music to buy, where to get clothes, etc. It was pretty specfic, but I couldn't really relate to it. Judy Garland?? Okay, she had a nice voice, but I don't get the fascination.

And, yes, I've read up on gay history, Stonewall, etc. I get that drag queens were on the frontlines at the time because they were so visible. But (today) I can't relate to the drag queen dressed as a nun with a strap-on dildo riding in the pride parade. I understand they may be expressing who they are, and their feelings toward organized religion, but it seems juvenile.

I think the definition of gay culture, and gay identity, keeps changing over time, if it can be defined at all.

(David Souter, really? ---Also, Sulu, er George Takei, came out recently)
 
Re-reading my post it sounds like a rant about drag queens. Sorry if it came across that way. I think if you had gay men from different generations define gay culture you'd get different descriptions. I know gay guys who are slobs, can't cook, don't dress well, and don't like techno. I rented the British version of Queer as Folk. That depicted a visible part of gay culture, but it's not the whole picture.
Okay, I'm rambling here. I'll stop.
 
Galapogos,

Good ramble. Thanks.

John
 
another cool thing about Canada
besides - gau marriage -

OUT TV - the gay channel - nobody really watches -it's struggling because - gay life is so integrated and normal - there isn't the need for that here -
 
'gay marriage'
 
also - i am proud - approximately 1/5th the population is gay and lesbian! :)
 
around 600,000!
 
I think - I could be wrong - I am tired - and I am taking this thread to a weird place -whoops
mistake
 
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