hello, all. this is the first day I can get on the Male survivors only page since last Friday. I could not get on the Gay survivor page Saturday, but COULD get on this page yesterday. I can get to the chat room using the HOME log on at the top of each page, when the home comes on, I go down to the SECOND group and log on CHAT ROOM and it comes up, and then I have to wait for about two (2) minutes b4 the chat page comes up, and then I'm lost. As I said in another post last week, for a stupid ass like me, computers are a hell of a lot different from back in 1990 when I used them at work. This AM I did go to the CONTACK US log on that is also listed on each of the pages at the top two (2) rows, and then wrote a note to membership services asking if they had a problem, why were the screens blank as I have noted above, and last week I asked them for help trying to undrestand and use the chat page. It is only 12:30 central time, and I believe they (the administration) is on Pacific time, so lets see if I get anywhere. but for now, I can get on both the Male and Gay survivor screens. that to me is great. If anybody has some clues or advice on how to work thru this maize, I'd sure as hell appreciate same. thanks, bos