Totally depressed

Totally depressed

beccy

Registrant
Today I went to a playgroup with my son and suffered fairly extreme social anxiety. I felt inferior and a failure and a mess.(I don't think I actually look like that) A woman there smiled at me and I know she's shown interest in me talking and getting to know me before, but i felt totally threatened by it and didn't want to talk with her at all. I did make conversation with another woman who I've talked with in the past, who is more guarded and shows less interest in knowing me. I presume this is a trust issue. Then I began worrying about the whole issue of sex/intimacy. I tried dealing with the issue of triggers from a sensitive point of view and to keep the lines of communication open, but that fell flat on it's face, as he told me it was things to do with me, I repressed anger and the whole thing was useless. I can't seem to cope with the ignoring/rejection if we are playful, if I flirt.The few times my bf tried to make eye contact with me a month or so ago, I found I couldn't trust him enough to believe what he meant/wanted by it. I seem to have reached the point where I am worried I will not be able to share that side of myself with him again. I have no confidence left.

I started worrying all over again about what bf might want sexually. I came home, cried and we talked. I asked him if that's what he wants. He said what he wants is for us to properly connect, like he's had a few glimpses of. He said he sees how that can be ultimately satisfying and erotic. I understand what he means, but worry that he more wants this other thing and he's just not being honest. (to be dominated/whatever) We have previously talked about the possibility of him going outside the relationship for this, and also me giving it. After much thinking, I have come to conclusion that I just can't do it myself, as it really doesn't get me off. He said he doesn't feel it would be a good idea for him to go outside of this relationship for this kind of thing at the moment, as it could badly trigger him, or just be traumatising. He also said that just like it says in one of our books, it could be something which might be good for his healing in the future. I said, if in the future, how come you don't want to do that now? And he said, because of where he's at in his healing. I told him I don't feel that is something I will ever be able to give him and that I was sorry. I also asked him how he felt about that, but strangly I can't actually remember what he said.

Also in the past I have shared with him openly sexual desires I have had, which we have acted out.(Like to be dominated etc) I now feel it was all a lie. He says he was triggered all the time, but OUTSIDE of the actual act of sex?? I just feel badly lied to and I now don't understand what any of that meant. Also, in the past I have asked him what he's wanted, we've done those things too, but I don't think any of that was actually to do with me. He wasn't 'with' me, if you see what I mean. I now see he wasn't 'with' me for any of it, and that explains why I 'checked out' so aften too. I used to feel like some kind of prostitue to him or something. I have been so honest with him. I've shared my deepest stuff. I even told him it was important for me to please him. In the context of all that, I just don't understand how he repeatedly(I now know) made it into an issue of 'getting it right' for me??!! Afterwards and even out of context, I asked him so many times if he enjoyed things, and he always convinced me he had.

How can I trust anything he says to me during our conversations now? I'm having such a hard time believing him. I'm having such a hard time believing I really do anything for him. I know he finds my body attractive, but i mean ME! Who I am. Part of me thinks that really wants at the moment is the thing I can't give and I'm not even opposed to that, but i don't know where it leaves me and especially if he's not being honest about it all. Also, if that's something he might want in the future, where does that leave me? I'm just starting to feel horrible about myself more and more in this relationship. How can I ever trust him again? I just feel like I don't know who he is, but then I've felt like that for about 3/4 of a year, so it's not a new thing :rolleyes:


I feel there is so much passion/playfullness lacking in our relationship. I can't do it anymore and bf said it makes sense that it should come from him first, but he thinks that is a long way off yet. I feel so low about this.


I feel so tormented by all of this.
I want to be with a man who can really love me for who I am and be kind to me. And I no longer feel I can be good for bf in any way.


sorry to sound so depressing, but today I just feel like I'm on the edge of a breakdown.


peace
Beccy
 
can I add, that I've no idea why all this is bothering me so much, as I have no sex drive at all at the moment. All the things I thought I liked don't turn me on anymore. I suppose genuine intimacy is what would fill that space, but we don't have that at the moment...

I think perhaps I might need some regular therapy, but we can't afford it....
 
Beccy,

It is normal for you to be feeling this way in the type of relationship you have. hugs for the hurting.

may I suggest you look at www.bpdcentral.com ?

It is website which approaches this issue from a slightly different angle and might be of some help to you in addition to malesurvivor. It might help support some of the ways you are feeling because it is a pretty active borad with some very bright posters who talk about just these issues. The main page has a lot of information which helped me greatly to understand my experience with my survivor, as well as his experience.

www.bpdrecovery.com is also a great place to check out the things on the main page- there are lot's of tools to help there- things that are one page or half a page reads that bullet point and we can take immediate action to change seemingly little things, but they are really pretty significant in the long run.
Please do not doubt what you are feeling or blame yourself. Part of CSA is emotional abuse. People who have been emotionally abused as children, who do not get help, emotionally abuse others. It is both a function of emotional developmental issues (emotional development does not take place when children are emotionally abused) and "learned" behavior. You are being emotionally abused right now and have been for some time. Your reactions and feelings are very consistent with people who are being abused. IT IS NOT YOU. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

Patricia evans wrote two books The verbally abusive relationship and the Emotionally abusive relatioship. read them. There is also a book called "emotional blackmail", which is very good for SO's of survivors. It is not to say that your survivor is not dealing with his own issues, but until you understand what he is doing to you, you can not be strong for yourself, your child or him. Understand your experience as your own- not the "So of a survivor", but as beccy, the woman, he human being. YOUR personal, individual experience with this. It is important as it is valid.

Are you in therapy Beccy? Are you working out and getting outside and keeping in touch with your friends and family and living a life outside the enmeshment of the relationship? Please remember to do that and to take care of your needs that are not relationship related.

Hugs to you and I hope this is helpful.

Bunny
 
Thank you so much for this reply Bunny,

It really is so reassuring to read some of the things you wrote there. I think I worry constantly that I can't do everything right enough, or I'm a horrible person. I'm sure I have a load of my own problems too, but it's hard to see them in any rational, reasonable light in this relationship. I do see a therapist/homeopath, but only about once every 1 1/2 months. I think at the moment I could do to be seeing one weekly, but there's no way we can afford that.

Also, I have been finding it difficult to socialise/exercise and do any of the things I enjoy. I don't really have that many friends, feel too nervous to make new friends, have no money, can't drive, have two small children(one who I'm still breast feeding) and basically just feel completely trapped. I know that sounds terribly depressive, but that's honestly how I feel most of the time. I'm hoping things will improve fro me this week though, as I have a little work to do. I work from home, (songwriter) and I've not had any work now for weeks, which really hasn't helped.

At the moment I am having feelings that I no longer like my bf very much. I don't like the way he treats me. Even after I say that, I feel immediately guilty and think of all the nice things he does do, but it's like I don't even trust why he does them anymore. I just don't really know him. Quite depressing after 12 years. The other day we were hugging and for a few minutes, I actually felt safe enough to really love him properly, then I remembered, 'he's still not asked me to marry him though'. I said this out load to communicate my level of insecurity, not for a response. He gave me a response anyway, and said that he'd been waiting for a nice moment and there hadn't been a lot of those between us lately. Really up until that point ( a few other things too), if he'd asked me to marry him, I would have said yes in a second and he knows that. But now I just feel like I'm not 'perfect' enough for him. He's waiting for some kind of idyllic life before he's ready to express his true commitment to me?? Bottom line is, I don't trust him anymore. I feel like everytime I express aspects of the relationship which need to be addressed/talked about and try to find solutions for, I am the only one doing that. And his excuse to not do that is presumably, I am too scary/angry/unapproachable anyway, so until I can be a nicer person, it's all too hard?? I am well and truly done with being made to feel like I'm some kind of monster. If we can't both be looking for ways to improve things between us, why should I keep putting the effort in? I feel like he always talks of tommorrow. Well what about today?

What I need to do is to get on with my own life and start putting less time into this. That's my thought today. I feel so hurt by everything that's happened and in a family situation too, it's going to take me quite some time to get over that anyway. And while I know there'll be the level of rejection/ignoring etc from him, I know I cannot share any of my playful/passionate/flirting side with him. The only problem is that at the moment, I feel like I don't want any od the rest of it either. (hugging, kissing etc) Should I outlaw that, till things improve in other areas? Maybe I should, as that may begin to re-balance things which were always wrong due to the stupid way we got together.

God, I really am going on again!

sorry i write so much,


peace
Beccy
 
It sounds like you are having a really tough time.

Small babies are very confineing to have- as much as we love them, that is the reality of the lifestyle :-( for the mother.

www.livinglifetothefull.com free online cognitive behavioral therapy - it's an awesome site- really awesome

there is a Yahoo group which is a free online dialectical behavioral therapy class- it is also a very good thing- and I think those would really help-

you can get the link to the Yahoo group in the discussion board section of www.bpdrecovery.com

walking outside is free and can be done for hours at a time :-D with kids- :-D

it's tough Beccy. no doubt. and if you have had enough, by all means leave. You can always leave.
 
Thankyou again for your support and the links also,

I can't quite grasp the fact that I can leave, due to the fact of the reality that would be for our children/single parents etc.....that equally seems like a nightmare.
 
Just want to ay thanyou again for those links Bunny........I've already started the 'Living Life To The Full' therapy. The really interesting thing is that, yesterday I was going to look for self help free therapy sites and then you posted those links! A really nice coincidence :) Your support is very valuable to me and the support/advice from everyone else here too.

It is interesting because last night me and bf talked some more about our past/present communications and what I have noticed is that whateverhis explanations are for a lot of his behaviour, are always tinged with 'I have been your victim'. Even though so much of what he explains to me makes it clear that he has actually been quite mean to me in many ways. For instance, on asking him why he 'distracts/backtracks/devalues' in converstaions, he said he always used to get/does get confused. I can appreciate that that is not pleasant for him, but I can also see that his solution to that has been to belittle what I've said/take his anger out on me. But he doesn't seem to see it that clearly.

Anyway, I'm sure these things will come more clear to him in time and it would be nice if at some point he could acknowledge these things, take resonsibilty for them and perhaps appologise. I realise I've appologised for things way too much in the past, and probably mostly unnecessarily. I know that's my responsibilty, but it seems so unfair now in hindsight :rolleyes:

got to go do some work....


peace
Beccy
 
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