This is like victim mentality, but isn't

This is like victim mentality, but isn't

Ceremony

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Might be triggering? I don't know how many of us deal with body dismorphia, and whether any know it as deeply as I do, for the reasons that are mine? I feel it's been discussed quite a bit here, without using the DSM label Body Dismorphic Disorder.

It dismays me that the definition lays focus upon facial appearance, or the sense of shape and features of the sufferers face. Too many suffer their body appearance and features, but are not noted in the DSM as readily. It's diagnosis for the body feature only comes with how the effects of that one or other body feature exactly describes the diagnosis. I have this diagnosis. I don't like it, but it explains my lifelong obsession with my affliction, and why I see it as an affliction.

It led me to self hate like nothing else has. I still loath my body and lack of hope to deal with victim mentality about it. There lay a form of self abuse too, that I think my mentality about this goes over the top, and my thought processes should overcome my objections. That's where the diagnosis is relevant. Like cptsd, it's not wanted, it's not logical, but has an etymology like any disease, and it's so damn debilitating, it ruins life. And, it seems illogical after discussions here and very little therapy; just one session.

I'll need to try and ask about this in therapy again, but I'm scared to be invalidated. Seemingly, with looking at treatment, all that can be done is exposure. Meaning, go try and do something I'm uncomfortable doing, and live through it. I put this on the back burner because of current and ongoing debilitating health issues (pain).

The end of last week I was prescribed a medication to put hope in my life. This morning it wasn't doing it, and I've taken the 2nd recommended. Maybe in an hour I'll feel better? But, these pain interruptions (nerve like Fibromyalgia) are greatly influenced by stress. And I'm still here, trying to live the stress I impose by staying here (my marriage). I can't afford to leave, I have to have the health insurance I am not providing for myself. I barely scratch any income, and the dismay of pain, and weight gain, coupled with the dismay of living here and knowing all of it is related to stress dismays me more!

The no win life I'm leading, is victim mentality at its worst. But, without health to earn, and the opportunities I'm trying, can be fleeting if I can't feel better.My sense of doom lingers. Snapping out of it is linked to Body Dismorphia, is linked to cptsd, is linked to stress, is linked to staying here. Does all it get better by leaving? I don't think so, it can't if I have no roof, no clothes, no base, no link to health insurance! I'll die without my medications. There's no hope without them. I don't have a death wish!

I wonder... in life, and we all don't like the 'what if', but that's all I have left. What if I stay, and get to have my meds with the hope the pain gets better, and I can now exercise, and do more work, and get out and do some exposure therapy on myself? I need to think this through, and brothers, please help me? I don't want to be told to leave, I need these meds. I'm too far gone now to get by without them. My blood pressure rockets to 210/110. and my nerve pain goes beyond debilitating. Let alone my first Colonoscopy at the end of August, and a biopsy of my Prostrate postponed due to my knee replacement, and then ongoing Pain Management appointments. All gone if I leave.

If they're taken from me, that's different, I have to try the state then, but that's ridiculous to impose on myself if I don't have to. And the lax of state help means I can't depend on the state to give a rats ass about my living or dying for the meds I have to have.

I don't feel good posting this. I can't expect to be helped with gentle kindness, when I note victim mentality. I don't know what else to do, so if it's quintessential victim mentality that I'm putting on display, I beg forgiveness.
 
Hi Ceremony

It is a very hard decision to make. I was in the same kind of situation in my marriage. I struggled with it for a long time. I talk to my T about it. He asked me a couple of questions One was am I happy being who I am today? the other was the one that helped me to think it out. What happens to me if I stay?

It took standing at the top of a cliff to make up my mind that I could not fix the situation I was in. It was no good for me and no good for her. I threw all my pills away and went away to the bush to die. I didn't die and I got back to my old doctor and he helped me with my physical problems. He tried to get me back on to psych medications but I was having nothing to do with them with my pain controlled I was trying to live again. I have a new home it belongs to me, it is on wheels so I could move when I got to not liking my surroundings. I have it now, somewhere I feel safe and comfortable. I am on my own to scared to let any intimate relationships develop I don't want to feel like trapped I did in my marriage ever again. I hope to get beyond that some day. For now I don't allow people to touch me.

I just wanted to share my experience of leaving my marriage. That I was totally dependant on for health care, medications and food and lodging. I had very little money. It was hard I was on minimal welfare $235 per month for the first 2 years I lived in the bush. My doctor helped me to get my neck fix and get onto disability. life has been better since.

Hope my experience helps you

Esterio
 
Ceremony

You can change how you feel with the way you see people treat you. I learned and to be honest, I vented, I shared what I saw and believed, all in the hope of getting the pain out. The pain of what was done was deep from the abuse to triggers. After 6 years of this, I feel free and the pain is gone (maybe not gone but diminished in capacity of control). I have come to accept the reality of the abuse, the unraveling and triggers. It is my truth and people do not have to like it, but it was the only way I could heal. I do not view it as self pity, but the necessary steps to self realization of how abuse and the actions of others were impeding my healing and ability to live a happy and fulfilling life. It was the pain of words and actions that was eating at me of how I felt after events occurred or memories surfaced.

Do not chase those that subject you to these emotions, it gives them power of control. In a way I was chasing people to be in my life, but now that the pain is gone so is the chase and so is the need for them to be in my life. Honestly, it would be nice but it has to be on terms quite different than those that left me in a sorry state. I know what was done, what was denied and once I accepted it, I knew I was the only one that needed to accept it. It helped me to feel free and in control of my life.

You are in a place I was for years, seeing what others did to me, understanding the reasons and their learned behaviors and treatment of people, writing and venting about it was my way to let the pain go by calling it out. When you call it out it can cause anger to be expressed by others who refuse to see their actions as damaging. You are calling it out now, next steps will allow you to say their loss, their issues, not yours for you will have advanced in healing from the CSA and the treatment that compounded your healing.

Ceremony we all step back in the healing process but it allows us to move forward. Take care of yourself.

Kevin
 
Ceremony said:
I need to think this through, and brothers, please help me? I don't want to be told to leave, I need these meds. I'm too far gone now to get by without them............... If they're taken from me, that's different, I have to try the state then, but that's ridiculous to impose on myself if I don't have to.

Based on what you wrote here, it sounds like you are either resigned to or committed to staying in your current situation, and I want to be very clear that I am not judging you by saying that.

It seems that we are all faced with the decision to either live the life we have or live the life we want to have. There is nothing wrong with choosing one or the other because once we choose we can concentrate on making the situation the best it can be. In my opinion it is much healthier mentally to commit than living in limbo with a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" outlook.
 
Dear Ceremony,

This has been lingering with me. I am sorry I don't understand the medical issues. But I want you to know I hear your frustration. What a cruel catch 22.

I wonder if as Esterio experienced, if you leave would your quality of life improve so dramatically that your body could heal on it's own?

I hope you can find peace.
 
Hi Ceremony,

This is quite a sticky mess. It’s easy to see you have what you feel like is a monstrous catch 22, with no answers. I don’t mean to be confrontational, first of all because MS should be a safe harbor where validation and compassion prevail, where ranting is acceptable, not only acceptable but expected now and then, as most of us have been at that stage somewhere in our healing journey. But more importantly it’s not our place to tell you what to do. Or to judge your actions. And I don’t presume to do that.


Nevertheless understanding what you’ve stated:
[quote:Ceremony]I don't want to be told to leave, I need these meds. I'm too far gone now to get by without them[/quote]

I hope you will consider other options. Esterio related a worst case scenario he faced. And as I’ve said before, making my own break from a toxic marriage is the BEST decision I made in my earlier life. When we feel as if we have a tiger by the tail, there are just two options, the tiger is going to do everything in its power to make life miserable for us and hope to throw us off, OR we simply let go. Obviously, we don’t know where we’ll land, but really who knows. It could actually be better for us ultimately. If we take the attitude that the devil we know is better than the devil we MAY face, then nothing will change. It would seem that victim mentality takes over completely.

Unrelenting, never ceasing stress causes a world of pain and ailments. Perhaps reducing the main stress factor will eliminate a lot of the need for medication.

Blue
 
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