Things, triggers

Things, triggers

VN

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This happen last week, but I need to speak it. I think, I can ignore it, I can make it to go away.

My mother, who was most the one to abuse me sexual, I have been avoiding of her. It is not so very hard when I am in U.S., and she is not. She do not know my phone number, my mobile phone or where I am living. I gone to see her in December with some friends with me, because my father died suddenly short time before then, I feel it is like my job, to go to see her? So I go with two friends, think I will be safe of her that way. Still, even with friends there too, she act strange with me, and want to get me into the other room with her. We just leave after short time. I have not talk with her since then, I do not want to.

Last week, she call to where I am working, I do not know it is her, they just tell to me I have call from Russia. My sister is to have baby this month, and I wonder if it is of that, even though she do have my phone numbers. So I go to phone and it is my mother.

She ask me, if I am angry with her. I decide I will tell her truth, and I say yes. She ask me why, and I tell to her, because of what things you do to me as I am growing up. And she become angry, she say what do I do to you, I protect you of your father, and I treat you as good I can. I tell her, you are not suppose to have sex with your children, that is wrong, that is not protecting, that is not treating good. And she say, 'oh, that'. Like it is nothing to her, she almost say it like it is question, like she can not believe it, that something so small bother me.

She say to me that I am hers. That after she marry my father (she marry him as she is already pregnent with my sister) and he is so cruel with her, with all us, that she ask to God to send her someone good, someone her to love. And she tell me, that is me, I am hers. I tell her, but you do not love your child like that. She say it can not be bad if it is from God. I tell her no, you do not understand, it is wrong to do this with your child. She say, but it is sign, God give you to me for me. That if it is not right, I would not look as I do. She say, I ask for someone, he give to me this handsome boy, it is you, it is the sign. I ask her, how it can be a sign, when first it start I am 3 or 4 years age.

It is crazy, as she is saying it, part, I become angry. Part, it almost make sense, as she say it. her voice to me, it is like she is explaining simple thing to a small child, I must be stupid to not understand it. I told her no, you are not right, you are just bad, and I tell her not to call to me, and I hang up. But it feel very strange to me, it have emotional and even physical effect at me, and make me feel I am crazy. She can NOT be right, yes? And how it is, how she can think it in any way to make her feel it is right? It make it crazy to me.

Then, just other day, I am helping train a dance pair, and when we work at lift, she accidentally hit me in the face with her leg, my nose start to bleed. I taste blood, and panic, flashback. It is something, I think I should control more. But still, it happens, and I lose control, get very afraid, do not know even where I am or what is happening around me. It is not so terrible with anyone around me who understand it, but most people, they will not.

It feels, emotions, I feel that there is no control no more. I go to therapist, I try talk, and it is, something catches my words, before I can get all them out. There is some things, it is near impossible to speak of, out loud. Even with close friends, I have not talked so much everything. I feel it, comes in the circle, that I make some bad happen, with choices I make when I am younger. And that is another thing, that something that happen she do not notice what have happened to me.

I am sorry this is so confused, it is confused in me also, but it do not seem to be helping, to not speak on it, so I try here, thank you.

VN
 
Visha,

Your mother is the one with the problem here. She is trying to justify her actions when she knows it was wrong to sexually abuse you. I think you are wise to keep your distance from her for a while.

You need time to think. You need time to deal with these issues before you face your abuser again. It's just like the rest of us here. We have to work to get to an excellent point in our healing before we can ever face our perps effectively and safely. You were wise to take friends with you when you last visited you mom.

Visha, you did the things you did as a child in order to survive, not to be bad. You are not bad. You have to believe that, it is true.

One thing I would suggest. Since you are having a hard time talking to your therapist about this, write it out in a journal. Take your time and write your thoughts out. When you go to therapy, give her the journal and allow her to read your thoughts. That way, you will not have to try and tell her everything and end up getting frustrated.

We are here for you, Visha. Talk to us.

You also know how to contact me whenever you need or want to, my friend.
 
VN,

I know how a crazy response from an abuser can make us feel like we are the crazy ones. My father has said some really mad things with such conviction that it takes me a while to work out that its his madness not mine. Its your mothers sickness and denial that is crazy, abusers twist God or anything else to avoid the truth, they lie to themselves and to us about what they did, its all her craziness. You are right to keep her out of your life for now.

No matter how you responded to your abuse it is understandable, nothing in the end is unspeakable. Choices based on abuse trauma arent real choices, as we understand ourselves why we chose what we did, we can forgive our younger selves and later see that we dont even need forgiveness. You will be able to talk it out a little at a time, however awful it feels, writing as Rich says even if you tear up the paper afterwards as I have done is worth a try, just to get it out. It wont feel nearly so awful when you do manage to talk it out. I thought there were things I could never say, but eventually I was able to, just telling the T that there are things I felt I couldnt say helped to get me started. Its hard for sure but well worth it.

Peter.
 
VN - she may have given birth to you, but in a civilsed society, that is not what 'mothers' inflict on there sons!

That is why the term 'Mother ***er' is seen as an insult!

Choices that you made when younger - you did the best you could with the knowledge that you had!

Don't blame yourself, you know where the blame belongs!

Best wishes...Rik
 
VN,

I must applaud you for your bravery in confronting your mother. It was good of you to share your feelings with her on the matter. I have a mother who was sexually abusive as well, though in a different way. I haven't been in a place yet where I could confront her on it. For now, I stay away from my parents most of the time. If it was just my dad it wouldn't be a problem. With my mother, I have big problems.


Your mother was way wrong to do what she did, way wrong. I hope your telling her this makes her realize how wrong things were for her to do what she did. As you said, she was NOT right.

FT
 
VN,

I want to echo what FT said to you. I applaud you also. You are a very couragous guy.

H.I
 
Visha,

The other guys are of course 100% right in assuring you that what your mother did to you was wrong. All her arguments are nonsense.

But you know, part of you is Little Vitaliy, that boy who needed his mother, not for sex, but for a mother's love. He still gets confused when he hears these arguments from her. he WISHES for a good mother! And that is the most natural feeling in the world bro. It is the little child who is confused, not the strong and courageous adult you are now.

Visha you talk about therapy, and that reminds me of my experience with therapy in Germany. I found that my therapist and I could make good progress, but language was always a problem. She and I both speak both English and German, but ONE of us was always going to be speaking in a foreign language. Once we got past very basic issues that got to be a problem and we both decided that I should change to an English-speaking T in the UK.

How do you find your therapy experience proceeding? Is language an issue? If so, you might need to be more patient my friend. That is, some of the difficulties might come from this rather than from real problems you are having in recovery. But I wonder, are there Russian therapists who have moved to the USA? If so, I wonder if one is anywhere near you. Speaking with a T in your own language makes a HUGE difference!

Much love,
Larry
 
VN,

I think you did just right thing. I was not abused by family, but I always think, it would have to be much harder for me to deal if that was truth. Family, and I think specially mother, has certain hold of us that a stranger or someone outside of family do not. For me, that would make it much harder to deal with then what I have already.

Perhaps if you receive a call other than your cell phone, you could have someone else ask who it is and what they want first. If it is not your sister or some friend you want to talk with, you could just not take the call then. I know you have been very truthful with her before of not wanting calls, and she do not respect that. But hopefully, at some time, she will learn you do mean it.

I am glad you have your therapist, and it is someone you do not have to think in English with. That was a help to me when I was in therapy.

Andrei
 
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