The Wobble

The Wobble

PAS

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Hi - one thing I wanted to share with y'all... something that I learned in my "partners" group (real life). I may have posted this a few months ago but I have been sick and my memory is shot..

so if this is a repeat.. I apologize...

I see a lot of postings on the site about the unexplainable wildly swinging emotions, reactions, moods, behaviours of survivors that is often difficult to understand for both the survivor and the partner...

What I learned about this response is that it is a "typical" response to sensory overload/trauma/anxiety.. and when anyone is "triggered" - when a trauma survivor is strongly reminded of their intial trauma, they go into the "wobble".

The "wobble" is a bafflingly confusing set of opposing feelings, behaviours and actions that seemingly come out of nowhere - one minute the person wants space, then right away wants closeness, they are angry then frightened, intensely displaying emotions then icy cold...

Anyhow apparently this is a common response to "abnormal" experiences - trauma of all kinds - from sexual abuse, to other abuse, to near-death experiences, to witnessing a violent act, or a disaster. The one thing that is particular to sexual abuse/trauma is that there are resultant sexual "wobbles" - because the trauma has fused with sexual experience/feelings, the survivor, when triggered, can often bafflingly wobble between intense demands/compulsive feelings (acting out) and then repulsed by sex (acting in).

Anyhow for those partners/survivors that are baffled by this, apparently it is a common experience/complaint among trauma survivors. (What I am trying to say is that there is NOTHING wrong with a survivor if he is in this.. at times one could feel like they are going insane because the behaviour and the mood swings are really out of control... and I know my partner sometimes thinks he's insane. I tell him he's not insane.. just wobbling). :)

I guess a key for working through the wobble for the survivor is to identify the triggers and process them, also reduce anxiety and stress in other parts of your life to keep wobble as manageable as possible (all depends on the level of trauma in your life - it is possible it can be too much to try and manage during periods of crisis). One of the keys to managing it for the partner (the survivor's wobble can kick start the partner's wobble) is to try and recognize the wobble and recognize what is going on and dont get caught up in the illogical swings.. just ride it out... reduce anxiety enough to stay in the "working zone".

I have been looking for a reference for this online but have not found it. If I do come across it I will post the URL.

Interesting stuff. I see it in my own life/behaviours/actions/moods as I am an abuse survivor myself, as well as in certain times when my partner is wobbling, I start my own counter-wobble.

wobbly PAS
 
Hi PAS:

Here's a word that isn't as cute as "wobble," but means 2 things which are opposites but equally true....
(From Webster's Online)
Main Entry: antinomy
Pronunciation: an-'ti-n&-mE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -mies
Etymology: German Antinomie, from Latin antinomia conflict of laws, from Greek, from anti- + nomos law -- more at NIMBLE
Date: 1592
1 : a contradiction between two apparently equally valid principles or between inferences correctly drawn from such principles
2 : a fundamental and apparently unresolvable conflict or contradiction
- antinomic /"an-ti-'n-mik/ adjective

Hope you feel better soon!
 
That's familiar territory, and something I still do as well. Although it's getting less often.

The inner confusion seems to become overwhelming at times and I literally don't know which way to turn and just start turning in different directions and stammering.
My wife just kicks my butt, it seems to get me moving again ;)

The sexual wobble is so true, the mixed emotions over all sexual acts can have that effect on me.
Unfortunately the kickstart isn't so effective.

Dave
 
Ohhh man... wobbles, counter-wobbles...

Can't get this mental picture out of my head, of all my in-laws as bobble-head dolls hanging out at Xmas dinner. :D :D :D "Pass the potatoes" and everyone starts vibrating.

I needed that badly. Thanks, wobbly PAS.


Actually... it isn't all funny. I have not found that this works for me:
a key for working through the wobble for the survivor is to identify the triggers and process them
because when I figure out that I am being irrational and "wobbly" it just makes me angrier. And then sadder and then angrier. Because how wrong is it that I still have to put up with someone else's sickness and relive their frightening and unpredictable behaviors, after so long and even though I KNOOOOWWWW what's going on and am just unable to stop it.

HEE HEE I really am like one of those stupid dolls... if you try to hold it down and stop the wobble, it just stops for a second and then as soon as you take your hand away that little bit of pressure makes it start all over. I just have to get put up on the high shelf and left all alone to wobble it all out.

I will not be able to look at my mother in law without giggling this weekend. :rolleyes:

SAR
 
PAS

Thanks...I needed that! It makes some stuff make perfect sense to me!

Lynn
 
Yep.. apparently all a by-product of an extremely heightened anxious state...

"I'm going.. no I'm not.. yes I am.. noh I'm not.. I"m happy, noh I'm sad, now I'm angry.. I hate you.. I love you.. go away.. come here.. maybe I'll go, maybe I'll not go.... I"m scared.. I dont care... I want this.. I hate this... I'm crying.. I'm angry.. I'm laughing... fuck the world.. I love the world.. the world hates me.."

...wobble...wobble...wobble.......

Anyhow I just posted this to let any survivor know that when/if you are in this you're not insane. You're under extreme stress and experiencing a NORMAL reaction to some highly abnormal situations.

I know for years during my abusive childhood 1975 up until 1988 when I left home for University, dealing with my dad's alcoholism/verbal and psycholgical abuse, the stress of university, bad relationships/breakups, and my "bad years" ("bad years" (1998-2001) include: dealing with traumatic death of a friend (military demonstration plane crash), cat dying of cancer, bad stair-falling accident, 3 breakups (one was a common law relationship), homelessness, moving, joblessness/new job, dad's arrest for DUI and third suicide attempt...) I thought I was mentally ill because I would wobble back and forth, confusing emotions, total roller coaster... I confused the hell out of others around me and especially msyelf.. I truly thought I was insane.

But I wasn't.

Just wobblin'.

:)

P
 
Dear Pas !

First thank you for bringing up such an important topic ! I liked the word "wobble" which make things look a little less dramatic. I used the word "crisis" before !

"I'm going.. no I'm not.. yes I am.. noh I'm not.. I"m happy, noh I'm sad, now I'm angry.. I hate you.. I love you.. go away.. come here.. maybe I'll go, maybe I'll not go.... I"m scared.. I dont care... I want this.. I hate this... I'm crying.. I'm angry.. I'm laughing... fuck the world.. I love the world.. the world hates me.."

I recognized myself in this, being a survivor, I went through a phase like this autumn when I was trying to sort out my emotions and my love for V. A lot of contradictions for sure !
My therapist told me that it is useless during a wobble/crisis to do anything. Action can be taken just before (when the wobbling is in preparation) or after. I have tried to think about that everytime I felt I had a wobble starting or after recognizing one.
As for V, he seems to have had a lot of that wobbling lately and I realized that the best I can do is to remain a rock, a lighthouse in his complete darkness. I am feel so much stronger these days and I have the feeling that he KNOWS I am strong. May be that's also what is being tested by male survivors: they need to know that their partner is strong, as strong as themselves and even stronger, because they know what it's like to have lived with the pain of SA for so long.
These are just my thoughts for tonight ! ;)
Love
Caroline


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"I'm going.. no I'm not.. yes I am.. noh I'm not.. I"m happy, noh I'm sad, now I'm angry.. I hate you.. I love you.. go away.. come here.. maybe I'll go, maybe I'll not go.... I"m scared.. I dont care... I want this.. I hate this... I'm crying.. I'm angry.. I'm laughing... fuck the world.. I love the world.. the world hates me.."
"HELP my house has been bugged !"

Dave :rolleyes:
 
Dave you're a riot!

I needed a laugh...thanks!

Hugs,

Lynn
 
I can soooooo relate, I think, well...maybe I can't, okay, I can't relate. Hmmmm........I'm not sure, I think I can't relate.......Yeah, I can.......I can totally relate to this whole "wobble" thing, lol.

Just ask Theo, lol. One minute I'm fine and dandy, the next minute, I want to rip the spines out of some people, then the next minute, I'm beating myself up emotionally for wanting to rip the spines out of people. I finally just collapse into shear exhaustion....just to wake up and start it all over again. Ugh :confused:
Well, that's all for now, I think, hehe.
Take Care,
LadyTheo
 
Oh my. . .this is so familiar it's scary! This is exactly what D is going through right now. One day he can't live without talking to me, the next day I'm an annoyance, the next day he hates everybody, the day after he wants to be as intimate as he possibly can. . .what you're all describing is exactly what I'm having to deal with right now. Now I don't feel so guilty about being confused by it. :rolleyes:
 
This is a wonderful thread. Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down (or do we?).

Good information, now how to explain it to the next potentional Mrs_1965.

Thanks F&F,
Bill
 
I think this thread hits it perfectly. Wobbling......my husband is undergoing a wobble right now, and it is so hard to understand. One minute he's talking to me and the next.......I'm an irritant. Right now I feel like I bring his reproach on anything I do/say/ask.........he is so irritated with me. I really don't know what I'll go home to tonight after work. Just have to struggle through it again. Trying to get it through my head that I'm not causing this. It's a roller coaster.
 
Ride out the wobbles.. wait to make major decisions/major discussions until wobble has eased..

How to ease wobble? Encourage survivor to do self-care.. take a break, do something fun/recreational... comfort them, ensure things to reassure them that they are safe, helps ease the wobble...

Remember wobbly behaviour caused by extreme anxiety and stress.. totally automatic nervous system reaction... no conscious processing involved in the wobble (I think its tied into/part of the primitive "flight or fight" reaction that most animals have).

Hopefully over time survivor will be able to identify wobble-inducing situations and work to mitigate/reduce wobbliness.

:)
 
ohhhh...

How to ease wobble? Encourage survivor to do self-care
Doesn't that seem like the most obvious thing? Except that it's not what I do when I'm "wobbling." The last thing that would occur to me at that point is to take a break and do something for myself. It would seem, I don't know, pitiful? crippling? pointless? Why would I take the time to sit down with a book when I could be busy hating my life?

I hope this advice will still make such good sense when I'm wobbly later...

Sar
 
Moving this back to the top for someone.
:)
 
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