"SUICIDE" ( Trigger )

"SUICIDE" ( Trigger )
i think we should never ever close the doors on cries for help here - this is just my opinion -
although attention seekers could exist - i think it is very important to take each and every threat serious regardless - as they are all indicators of depression and despair on a grand scale - and if it is attention getting then there is serious imbalance to consider -

i do not know how to manage it here(MS) but i think you have made a really great start by offering resources that cover any resources MS is lacking-
the friends here have saved me - just by their comradery- from many a downward spiral -
and so i can't imagine that in the state of despair we have to start thinking about
how we might 'cross a line'?
i dunno - i just am glad you put the resources up for people who really need them - I just don't think if someone is suicidal we should curb their expresssion of how badly they are feeling -

but i probably misinterpreted a little and perhaps overeacted ....?

Mark
 
Dave, I am relieved that MS is finally taking a stand on this issue. Quite frankly,in the last couple of years, there has been a plethora of manipulative, overly dramatic personalities that have taken up way too much time on this board with direct or thinly veiled threats of suicide. Anyone who truly feels that they want to end their life should be seeking professional help elsewhere. ... Andrew
 
Sometimes voicing the intent is all that is needed to drain away its potency. There may be an assumption in the telling that someone will care and if someone cares then someone can hurt. If someone can hurt, then the act merely shifts your pain over to the one who cares about you and the web of life is slowly re-realized and the ideation is gradually dismantled.
 
An interesting combination of thoughts on this subject. It is true that this is a moderated, online support group; not a professional therapeutic setting. If that is what is needed, the person does need to go elsewhere; if they are of the proper mindset to do so.

The one serious suicide attempt I made was not 'announced' here or anywhere else in my life, to anyone else. And it was by luck, karma, 'divine intervention' or whatever that it was not successful, although I am quite greatful of that fact now. A serious attempt a friend of mine made, same thing, it wasn't 'announced' or hinted at at all. So as Dave said, who was it a cry for help to? Our own selves? I honestly do not know I was wanting death or absence of pain. I just knew anything had to be better. Honest? The end result in the hospital wasn't better. Was sick as anything, on the breathing machine for a few days, and then not trusted at all by the people I love the most for quite some time afterward.

Yes, to announce it here, it may be the 'attention seeking'. Or even as Danny says, it could be manipulation. This site has witnessed both in my memory. I think if anyone does that, perhaps the best response to to direct them to the posted resources, and back away. Because there may be one or two people here who have sufficient learning, training and experience to help someone who is at that point, but I know that I am not one of them.

leosha
 
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