SA issues and now I have postpartum depression

SA issues and now I have postpartum depression

PAS

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Holy cow.. its been awhile eh? For those who remember me...

We had our baby on June 22, it was a very difficult labour (big baby, 9lb 3oz) and now on top of all my H's SA issues and relationship issues, I"m suffering from wicked postpartum depression.

Some of it is just adjusting to the lack of sleep - which was never my strong suit anyhow, and new heavy responsibility of motherhood (I'm so intimidated with the responsibility), and part of me is finding it difficult to trust my H because of all his SA issues that were affecting our relationship for a long time. For the whole pregnancy I felt very put upon and very blamed for a lot of his issues (which were NEVER my fault) and to be honest he really wasn't all that supportive about my pregnant state - he didnt really want to help out, I think he thought I was "faking it" when I could barely do anything around the house, and he REALLY got angry and resentful. I felt very trapped by my body, helpless and I fell into a state of learned helpelssness that I"m still learning how to get OUT of.

H on the other hand has made major strides since the first few weeks of the baby's birth, and especially since my postpartum depression, but I'm finding it hard to relax and TRUST him, even though I absolutely HAVE to - nobody can raise a baby alone, especially with my PPD without going insane.

Another factor that is aggravatign my PPD was a traumatic birth experience - many complications happened, including testing positive for Step. B (possibility of baby being infected at birth), baby passed meconium (first bowel movement) before birth and she could have breathed it in during birth, being stuck at "transition" (last few centimetres of dilation) for SIX HOURS - it was excruciating and agonizing and I only had pain relief for two of those hours. I also had to push for four hours and almost had an emergency c section after 30+ hours of labour. Then I had a hemmorrage and baby had to be put in the ICU for observation due to exhaustion... then I got really sick from many infections, headaches, food poisoning, very very sore and unable to lift baby for weeks afterwards. Needless to say I've been rather busy over the past while and not posting much on here.

On an up note - baby is now three months and I actually have a bit of time here and there to myself (an hour or two here or there) and H seems to be THRIVING on fatherhood - it seems to be giving him a new lease on life, a new exhilaration that his life never had before. He's finding that his self-care issues are improving as we've got a lot less time for ourselves, so he chooses thoughtfully and carefully what self-care modes he's going to use, he's also very careful to be a good role model and he seems to be a lot more responsible for his moods and activities. And he's working on a testimonial about his SA that he's going to present in his mens' group, and the trial against his abuser is coming up, which HOPEFULLY will go well and give him the "we're so sorry this happened to you" that he desperately needs.

For me: I've made contact with the outpatient psych. clinic at the main hospital here, and am getting support from a psychiatrist and social worker and getting home-support visits from a psychiatric nurse, which I really appreciate. I also am eligible for social support to get in a support worker to be with me some afternoons to give me a break/relieve some stress/allow me to exercise, eat, sleep, etc.

My major symptoms of postpartum depression is extreme anxiety being alone with the baby, and the anxiety around loss of control over my life - the baby is in charge and FORGET doing anything I want to do in the way I want to do it - interruptions are now a large part of life. My own abuse issues are flaring BIG TIME as I grew up in a home with an alcoholic father who CONTROLLED my life with his moods - and I now have a little baby who also controls my life with her moods!!!!!!!!! I have to find a way to psychologically break the connection between the two.

Anyhow just an update - it seems my H is getting MUCH better while I"m sinking down into a black hole of despair and anxiety... its weird its almost like we've switched places - i"m now the "victim" and he's the survivor, I'm the helpless and stuck one and he's the leader, its very very strange. We both now REALLY understand each other!!!!!!!!!!

Think of us, pray for me... pray for a good outcome in my H's trial, we'd appreciate it a lot.

Oh - and dont worry too much if I dont post on here very often - I'm busy with a new baby! I'll try to get back to you sometime before she graduates from College :)
 
It's always so ggod to hear from you - even when you are feeling crappy - bec. you are so incredibly articulate & you give voice to so many of the emotions & complexities that so many of the rest of us experience.

Hang in there, Mom!
 
PAS

I had one ridiculously easy labor and delivery, and one that was a horror story. I had some extreme PPD with both of them (and I still have flashbacks about the horror story one).

This might sound terrible of me... I love my kids... but I am not an infant person. I need RESPONSE! Those first few months when the baby just kind of "absorbs" things and doesn't give back much were very difficult for me. Once they start paying attention and smiling/talking/experimenting, though, the rewards are just awesome and so immediate.

I wonder how many of us would say what you've said here:
For the whole pregnancy I felt very put upon and very blamed for a lot of his issues (which were NEVER my fault) and to be honest he really wasn't all that supportive about my pregnant state - he didnt really want to help out, I think he thought I was "faking it" when I could barely do anything around the house, and he REALLY got angry and resentful.
I think a lot of us. Maybe it is really difficult to see your wife pregnant? Maybe there is guilt or fear about our well-being? Or a sense that they are being left out of something? I wonder if some of the men here have anything to share about how expecting a baby influenced their relationship.

I am SO GLAD that you are getting the help you need right now-- fight the depression-- don't let it keep you from taking good care of yourself and doing what you need to do every day-- allow yourself to accept the help without accepting a definition of yourself that YOU are helpless.

I am a busy lady these days, but PM me anytime.

SAR
 
Originally posted by SAR:
PAS
This might sound terrible of me... I love my kids... but I am not an infant person. I need RESPONSE! Those first few months when the baby just kind of "absorbs" things and doesn't give back much were very difficult for me. Once they start paying attention and smiling/talking/experimenting, though, the rewards are just awesome and so immediate.
I think I"m like that - I like infants but I'm not an infant-all-the-time person.. I love caring for her for about 4-6 hours per day, the rest of the time I have a hard time. I need long breaks between my "time on", and its much easier if I"m not alone.

I"m actually considering going back to work early so I wont have to be alone with the baby for too long. My H LOVES beign with the baby - mostly because he's an introvert and she DOESNT respond back too much!!!!

Thanks for your note - I was wondering if something was wrong with me - dont get me wrong I love my baby but caring for an INFANT is so hard!! We are starting to get smiles now but thats about it.... still not much response/interaction. And the "tend to me NOW" screams that can come at any time of day or night are REALLY hard for me to deal with.

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the "tend to me NOW" screams that can come at any time of day or night are REALLY hard for me to deal with.
Think of it as a challenge-- there is a language in those screams, as I'm sure you know-- you have the knowledge and power to decipher that language and understand her world-- lots of people plain can't tell the difference between "hungry" and "tired."

And-- if you are one who thrives on response-- you will sail on through the so-called "terrible twos" while all these blissful, infant-loving moms are tearing out their hair. :) Women used to say things to me like, "Oh, I think four months is the best age, they can't walk or talk back yet, or get into trouble," and I would think, "I can't WAIT until my baby is walking and talking and getting into trouble! That sounds like so much fun!"

Don't let anyone make you feel guilty if you decide to go back to work early-- your baby needs a mom who is feeling productive and engaged-- but I hope it's not your own low self-esteem or fear that's pushing you to make that decision. It does get easier, very fast.
 
PAS,
Always soooo Good to hear from you! Congratulations on your little girl.

PPD SUCKS big time! I am so glad to hear that you have reached out for help during this time & that you actually HAVE some help during this time. Does it make the PPD any easier? Hell no, well maybe a little easier, but the FEELINGS are still there all the same.

I wish I had some really "sound solid" advice for you. I do know that a short temporary use of anti depressants worked to "break" the worst of the PPD for me after my 2nd one. Perhaps this is an option for you if you are not breast feeding? Some may be (?) safe for you during breast feeding - but double check with Dr 1st of course.

As far as the "learned state of helplessness" - PAS some of it is that YOU ARE in a state of helplessness. You DO need someone who is safe who can help you with your new baby. New Mommies no matter how easy the birth is NEED REAL help. It is not saying you are weak or unknowledgeable, but you have been thru one hell of a long period of exertion on your body & hormone fluxation from HELL. (my own daugh now also has the strep B virus , chkn pox & recently cat scratch fever due to her job yay! NOT!)AND so very SICK afterward to boot!

I think you are being too harsh on yourself when you say that you're in a learned state of helplessness. My opinion ONLY is that at bare minimum 50% is a REAL need to be cared FOR, the rest is triggered feelings.

And - your Hubby who needed you and you so BRAVELY supported so STRONGLY and with MUCH energy BEFORE baby gurl was here is NOW giving support & energy to baby gurl. With your struggles of supporting him during his healing & this court stuff -- to me it seems absolutely SANE to have trouble trusting him. I know for me I felt a lot of abandonment AFTER my girls were born - babies got ALL the attention.

I say that with the utmost respect and kindness please -- for example living with Partners who have been in the past a roller coaster to live with, well heck -- just from my own experience/s and what I too am dealing with TRUST is a HUGE issue for me at least. I am not sure IF he is gonna "break down" or resort back to old bad behavior or not. I'm not saying your Hubby is giving you reason NOW not to trust him - but it DOES take a long time to regain trust in our partnerships after the roller coasters we have experienced.

Hubby's behavior during your pregnancy surely didnt give a whole lot of reason for you to trust right now? - For example I didnt even trust my own mother/ sister etc to even HOLD my babies.

I think you are doing one HUGE step that deserves APPLAUSE for reaching out for help during this time. My opinion also is that it is perfectly "normal" to feel the loss of control in your life to some degree. You have lost SOME control, here is this little creature that is wholly dependant upon YOU for its every need! Even with the best of intentions to train or schedule, baby STILL gets to rule the roost most of the time.

Your life has changed for ever. Not in a total bad way -- but as in now everything revolves around baby -- even something so simple as attempting a short trip to the grocery. Getting kid dressed, xtra diapers, bottle, straps for car seat, position baby's head etc... and then as baby grows so will the preparations and stages.

A HUGE daunting task even for the strongest!

You do have the strength in you, you've proven that in supporting your husband thru his recovery process. And now all of a sudden in what seems to be a few HUGE strides - he's managing amazingly wonderfully.

PAS, you have done a most amazing thing -- YOU reached out for help. I do so pray that you become surrounded by people who are loving and kind and truly help you thru this time in your life.

Of course you have our prayers for a good outcome with both your NEW family and with the court case.
And hey I too went back to work early after my 2nd one as the tasks were so huge and mindless brain sucking I NEEDED adult contact.

Many Hugs and Prayers your way , Sammy
 
Quick update - the meds (antidepressant Luvox) seem to be taking the edge off the depression and obsessive thoughts, but the anxiety is still there. Still need meds to sleep but I dont feel so depressed all the time now. It comes and goes, but definitely more good hours than before (still no fully good DAYS but definitely good phases).

Am still recovering from childbirth - have gained 20 lbs (ick) and still no "cycles" so hormonally I'm still really messed up (contributing to the PPD). Still getting used to this massive change in my life - the hardest thing is the way I dont have full control over my life anymore.. its SO hard being an "older" mom (35) and having lived alone for so long before meeting hubby, getting married/buying a house and getting pregnant (it all happened so fast!) and now I just feel so... responsible? Confused? Dont get me wrong I love my baby but its so hard to adapt to this lifestyle after so many years alone/single/dating!!!

On an up note - am going to a support group for ppd and hubby is diving into supporting me in my PPD as much as I supported HIM re his SA (He's even done ALL overnight feeds for 3 weeks in a row now!!!!). I'm also eligible for a part time support worker to come in and relieve me/help me with baby duties a few times per week. This will start in 1 week. We're going away for a week to a cottage tomorrow, the cottage is near my Hubby's parents. They can help baby sit and give us a break for a few days!!! YAH!

Re: H's SA - H is also posting on here as well as continuing his mens group and working on his testimony.. the case against his perp is still proceeding too... I hope that doesnt mess him up too bad when it happens....

Anyhow - indeed we are both definitely seeing the results of his hard work in healing!!!!!!!!!!!!

The baby: Our baby girl is wonderful and beautiful and funny and happy and a GREAT sleeper (sleeping through the night most nights at 11 weeks!!!!!!!!) so there's somethign to be proud of I guess!!!!!
 
PAS, keep us updated when you can. It seems like the bright spots are gaining ground.

As a "younger" mom I found that I got a lot more acceptance and understanding from women on both ends of the age spectrum than I did from the ladies in the middle. This was a shock to me because I had expected the most condemnation to come from the women who'd waited so long to have kids where I'd done it in no time at all. So if you're finding it hard to be around new moms who are 7-8 years younger, there may be a new mom younger than that who is having the same difficulty.

Enjoy all that sleep!
SAR
 
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