Really wanting to let it rip!

[MrDon]

WARNING: Be careful if you read this because this post is not a politically correct written post. It is full of a lot of anger. Be forewarned! I'm not really in a mood to be very forgiving of anyone on this subject because of how it hurts so much to me personally.


Right now, I'm about tired of hearing in the news how wrong it is to be gay. Well if I am wrong, than this God that everyone feels they know so much about must have made a mistake with me! And in order for him to be right, than I can not exist. I can't change the way I am no more than I could change the color of my skin. I'm getting so angry these days over all of this because it isn't like I have the freedom to live my daily life as I am without the fear of being ridiculed, beaten up, mistreated, etc.. and to make matters worse, all I keep hearing is how gays are such an abomination to the world, and sinful, and terrible, and less than the holy people of the world.

It isn't like I am asking the rest of the world to somehow majically turn into a gay person because I wouldn't want them to and if they are straight, than that is who they are. I just happen to be the way I am and that is how I was made. I could I guess try to hide it and act a role that gets me no where in life if that is what society demands, but no way, not for me! I find it amazing that somehow divorce is ok, wife beating is ok, child abusing is ok in much of the mainstream religious institutions, but being gay is wrong. I think someone has their priorities screwed up in life and it ain't the people who know what their sexuality is all about!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

 

[Mike Church]

My brother. God loves all his children as the bible says. But here is the big monkey wrench. Those that interpret god's words and are with the right wing fringe are trying to push their ideas onto the general population.

To me that means that I am being forced to accept the world as others see it ( a very narrow view I might add). I cannot and will not tolerate that. I do not think that anyone capable of thinking should tolerate that. I recognize the anger you feel because I was told in no uncertain terms what my clients and my perps thought about me and what they perceived me to be. It has always been my belief that those that scream the loudest are covering up their own instability.

I do not believe that a gay man would willfully denigrate a non gay at their expense and I cannot understand why supposedly ( and I say that with malice) straight people, (mostly Men) do. My clients certainly were not gay and their perversions were against every code of decency in existance. They came from straight society.

I know this does not help but I want you to know that I am just as angry. I have unbefriended (ist that a word) people because of their screwed up attitude.

Remember it was the Catholic Church that tortured heretics. It is not religion it is some of the assholes that run it that stir the pot. And I am not just referring to Catholics. It is everywhere that religion is preached.

DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN

 

[MrDon]

Mike,
I grew up in a world and in a so called baptist church where I was taught to hate anyone who didn't believe exactly like we did and who were not members of that church. Needless to mention that gay people were not part of the church (or at least people who were out). That world was so ingrained into me that when I left and went to college, I struggled around other people. I didn't know how to relate to them or how to be equal with them as I was taught everyone was below me. It sucked and it screwed my life up in many ways.

In the past years, I have worked so hard to undo the damage that was done to me in this area. It is so ingrained. And my freakin father thought therapists had brainwashed me, damn he and his church were the brainwashers! And now I find myself struggling against the same thing I was taught to do which probably makes this a double edged sword for me.

And in amongst all of this, the very same churches that we attended were the same ones that closed their eyes to the beating and the sexual abuse we suffered along with the emotional and verbal abuse. They were the very same ones that provided the fertile ground for my father to treat my mother as an object, not as a person... and yet, these very same people act as if they hold the only key to all the doors of the world...

yep, I'm pissed!

Don

P.S., I do understand that there are "churches" out there who are different and so please don't take me that I am painting a broad brush stroke that includes all churches... It is not my purpose to attack any who hold their faith in high regard as I do understand it was a select few who did what they did to me.

 

[coolcat]

Right on bro. Couldn't have said it better myself,would like to use it if i can.
Gus

 

[Brayton]

I share your anger. I think we will hear more and more of this crap as we approach the election and as the Consitutional amendment is considered.

Somehow, I have to find ways to not take what they say personally but it is really, really hard because I feel that because they are talking about the most intimate parts of my life that I am being assaulted.

An ethics columnist in our local paper wrote Saturday that we should stop hating one another. If I thought I could I would've written to him and told him that it is unreasonable to ask me to like and respect people who teach their children to yell out at me, "You are d---ed to hell!"

These people want me to be invisible if not worse.
Anger is very justified. I think we will react more and more with very visible demonstrations. What happened in San Fransico is just the beginning and we will begin seeing more and more straight people who know the truth and truly respect other people joining us.

Brett

 

[MrDon]

I was thinking today that what is society says tomorrow, I can't be with my partner Jeff. That would be the end of the world for me because my life is so much better because of him. For someone to tell me how they feel I should love or care for someone is beyond comprehension to me. I did not choose this. I did not ask for this. This is how I am. And it is so sad that when we have major issues confronting this nation, our leaders decide to divide the nation and put emphasis keeping some people as second class citizens.

Oh, I could go on.... but again, it is a thread where I just needed to scream!

Don

 

[crisispoint]

My brother,

Part of my problem is I am attracted to men, but so very scared to be gay. By that I mean in open society.

Perhaps it's because of the very reasons you rant on about. Perhaps because of the abuse, or my acting out in response to it. Perhaps because I surely don't want to be charecterized or stereotyped simply because of my sexual orientation, which is such a small part of who I am anyway.

Really, it's hard to be gay here. Hard to find people to meet, hard to be on a Goddamned date with somebody, hard to deal with people saying stupid stuff like "I always thought you were gay, because you (fill in the blank....did something, acted some way, like a certain thing)," or "really? I never thought you were gay. You don't look/act/behave like it." Hard to be religious because you have some small-minded yahoo saying "God hates fags!" or "you can be CURED of your tendancies through the power of the Holy Spirit."

Really, why would ANYONE want to be gay?

Well, I'm experimenting with this, because I DO think that I have a shot at a relationship, and it happenes to be with a wonderful, caring, compassionate, loving individual who also, oh by the way!, happens to be a man.

And you know something? It doesn't scare me the way it used to. And if I do fall in love and marry this person (screw "civil union," if it looks, walks, quacks, and flies like a duck, it's a duck!), I will be happy to say that I love him and he is a part of who I am.

The more good people like us come out and be public, the easier it gets. Because everyone else sees that we are all around, and we're the same person we always were, just more open.

It's a hard road, not one I fancy taking, but if it's the road I'm to take, so be it, and screw hiding.

There's no shame and nothing to hide in being yourself. And that included being a survivor, being gay, being black, being Catholic, and being a space alien.

Screw anyone who tried to tell you different!

Peace and love,

Scot (a space alien and damned well proud of it! )

 

[Steve P]

Ooooo! I'm way hot, too. My ancestors came here 300 years ago and help build this country and fought in the revolution and now I'm told I don't belong here in essence. I'm pissed off! I'm totally out and totally at ease with my sexuality and I am very angry at our stinking president - compasionate conservative my ass! Who invented that crap? Have you seen the latest ads? "I know right where I want to lead this country." Yeah, George, I do to - right back to the 50s when Mom wore and apron and high heels to cook dinner (of course we all know that was never true) and we all called our fathers Pop. I was born and raised in the 50s. All that means to me is going back to a place where no one spoke openly about anything and homosexuality was a dirty word. I'm NOT going back to the 50s!

I just can't WAIT for the general election in November. For the first time in my life I'm giving money to a political party/candidate! Anything to get HIM out of the White House.

 

[saxonblue]

Hi everyone!

Lots of good arguments, the sad truth I however that there are more narrow-minded, bible (or whatever other religious propaganda) wielding contra revolutionaries in this world than there are tolerant and reasonable people. True, being gay isn't safe, fun or easy. It's hard, painfull and lonely with ample reason to be very scared. It's not something any man would choose. It's not a choice nor is it a condition. We are not ill, thus there is no need for a cure.
SA did not make us so, we were born this way.
THIS IS FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not in any way disputable. It is pure hard gutwrenchingly objective science!

It is therefore to be concluded that being gay is nothing other than a variant of mankinds wide array of natural behaviours.

If anyone cannot accept this, let them by all means shut th bloody #@@# up. I don't care if it's the president or the local priest.

I don't feel the need to insult anyone with or without a religious belief, but since so many of them seem to have the idea that they have more rights than we as gays do have: screw 'em!

And if "God" whatever God, has a problem with gays, he or she or it should have thought about that before creating the lot.

Excuse me for being rather impolite, but I've been beaten up and trodden down too often to feel any kind of respect for any group of people who would not mind at all to do us harm just because it's in their power to do so.

I wonder what Benjamin Franklin would have to say about this.....
But I don't hate Christians or people from any other faith. I just ask them to pass by my door if they feel the need to bring to my attention that my existance is a sin. If they accept me for who I am, I will accept them and be a gentleman as well.

Daniel

 

[brian-z]

I havent really fallowed this thread but I just caught the last reply.

QUOTE:
being gay isn't safe, fun or easy. It's hard, painfull and lonely with ample reason to be very scared. It's not something any man would choose

1. Coming out was the best thing I ever did, and my first summer as an openly gay man was the most fun Ive ever had.

2. There are thousands of gay couples that have been together for decades.

3. If you came down the street with a hetor-ray that could zap me straight, I would run in the other direction.

4. Breeders are a strange lot and Im glad Im not one of them.