rage and anger

rage and anger

serenebreeze

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I have no idea where to start. I am time2heals wife. We have been together for eleven years. If you have read time2heals posts than you know a little bit about our story. His rage from the abuse he has suffered as a child is swallowing our family alive. Its hard to deal with all the anger depression and isolation he surrounds himself with. Can anyone tell me how to deal with his rage and how can we get to a place of healing. No one can give better understanding or advice than the people here. What do you guys think.
 
serenebreeze,

Welcome to Male Survivor and the F&F forum. You have a great bunch of women here who will certainly support and understand you, as well as survivors whom I hope don't make too much trouble for you!

I remember your husband - hasn't been around for awhile I think. He certainly has a lot to be angry about: abused for ten years by his own father, brother also abused, kicked out of the house at 17, mother unsupportive, two teachers who should have been able to see what was happening to him but did nothing, and family members on both sides unsupportive. That's a lot of fuel for rage!

I think he's also angry with himself. He may wonder why he "allowed" the abuse to continue so long, and I remember he was very frustrated that he had not stood up for himself when relatives pressured him into seeing his father again.

I also wonder if he feels very alone and unjustly singled out somehow. The threads he started often asked "Has anyone else had this experience?", as if the answer might be no and he might be alone with this problem. That too would be a big source of anger - why me?

He was in therapy earlier this year and I hope that's continuing. Really, what you both need to do is work through a professional to deal with this, as it seems to be a problem that's getting worse rather than improving.

That said, I've got a few ideas you may want to think about, and the first is that while his anger against the abuse and his father is 100% justified, when he rages against you and the family he's aiming at the wrong target. These are two different forms of anger and are NOT the same thing.

The one - anger against the abuse - is anger that he absolutely has to express. It's his reaction to what was done to him and it's release is part of his healing. But it has to come out in a healthy way and not explode out undirected. His T can suggest various things as outlets: some guys go out and just beat the crap out of a tree with a baseball bat, others work out with a punching bag or run or swim, I wrote a furious letter to my (deceased) abuser and scattered its ashes over his grave. But the point is that the anger has to be focused and released in a way that doesn't harm him or others.

The other kind of anger he's expressing is more or less general rage at the world. He looks at how people apart from the abuser failed him and he realizes - rightly - that if only ONE of them had spoken out he could have been saved. Or he may be angry that he didn't save himself or that he didn't stand up for himself on this or that occasion. If he rages against people like his former teachers, for example, they would just dismiss him or rage back. So what does he do? He rages against the people closest to him - his immediate family (I mean you and your son), not because he disrespects you but probably because he trusts you and feels safest letting his feelings out at home.

The problem with this anger is that it's aimed in the wrong direction. You are his most needed source of support; you are not the problem. He needs to understand that if you insist that you can't be targeted, that doesn't mean you are denying him his right to be angry about what happened to him. If you demand to be treated with respect and consideration, that doesn't mean you are rejecting his right to be frustrated with others who are letting him down. He also has to think of the impact of his anger on a small child, who will not understand what's going on but will certainly pick up on the tension.

I was talking about therapy above, and perhaps his T would know something he could do to learn to focus and "manage" his anger. It does have to come out, I think, but from what you say it's pretty clear that it's not coming out in healthy ways at the moment.

I hope you will continue to post here, and please pass my regards on to your husband. I remember him as a good guy and it was always interesting to talk to him.

Much love,
Larry
 
Hi Soapybubbles,

something my bf has found unbelievably helpful for healthy release of all kinds of emotions, is EFT (that's Emotional Freedom Technique). His therapist introduced him to it and I believe there are other therapists who also utilise it.

peace,
Beccy
 
anger can be a hard one, because it tends to stay in you for a long, long time. also, healing tends to have this effect of making everything worse before it gets better. it has stirred all this up in him, so now the anger only gets worse, and it likely wont improve much until he begins forgiving people, including himself.

i am not real proud of some of those early days, but they are what they are. they are in the past now, and i can never undo them. i can live right from today foward though. eventually he will get there. in the meantime, he should be sharing this with his T, and you two may want to look into one for you as a couple. i got help from a therapist for myself, but found to repair my relationship i need one for that as well.
 
i think some of the anger comes from not being able to fix ouselves,men are supposed to be strong ,according to what we are taught . i get really pissed cause i cant just "get over it".
 
I know exactly what you mean when you say "his anger is swallowing our family alive." I've been married for six years to a man whose anger and rage about his abuse are so huge that sometimes it feels like that is the only emotion in our home - except that I spend a lot of time trying to balance the rage/anger but, still, the rage and anger drive everything else. I had gotten into the habit of becoming self-destructive and sad in the hope that my acting out of my own grief (the female version of his anger?) would make my husband some how SEE what his anger was doing to all of us (me and our two little girls, as well as himself). That didn't work at all.

However, after spending even just a short time communicating with men and women on this website (as well as pursuing my own goals and therapy) I have only recently found a new strength to be whole and say to my husband that I cannot live with his rage. We are spending time apart, but just recently he told me he called a new therapist that we found on this web site. That was a HUGE step forward for him.

I find that when my husband is engaged in the world, he directs his rage toward the world. But when he isolates, he directs his rage at me. I can't live with that anymore because I am not his abuser.

Good luck to you and much love. I will look for your posts!

Cecilia
 
I just wanted to thank you guys for all the reply's to my post. They were really helpful. I relate alot to what cecilia said. " I can't live with that anymore because I am not his abuser". I feel like I'm here with him so he can punish me for all the pain he has experienced in his life. I am not responsible for his abuse and yet he continues on his path to self dectruction. I feel as long as I am around he will not seek the help he so desperately needs. I really believe this to be the case. He has nothing to get better for. Why should he change if there is nothing to lose. I have begged him to get help for nine years now. He starts on the journey cause he knows he has pushed me to the limit than quits when he has pulled me back in to our twisted reality.

We almost spilt seven months ago due to numerous issues on both sides. But after we talked for a few days he promised me to do what was nessecary to heal. I feel he has since broken that promise and resorted to doing what he does. My husband has a hard time saying sorry and refuses to accept responsibility for most everything. I feel he places blame on me a lot! For a long time I bought the b.s. than I realized that its not all my fault. I am worthy of a great many things. My husband once wrote that he has very little love for himself so how can I expect him to know how to love me. He started to come to this site for awhile than quit. His last post was in may 2006. As of now he wont discuss the abuse which means he cannot heal. I am not able to heal my husband. He must want to do this on his own with my support.

I will continue to walk through fire with my husband as long as he gets the help he needs. I will not continue in a dysfunctional pattern. My number one concern is my son and his wellbeing and how he is being affected. If my husband doesnt get help than what other alternative do I have but to separate from him. I don't feel their is one. I wish he knew how awesome his life could be if he would tackle the journey to healing. Does my husband want to be miserable forever? Why doesnt he want to heal?

I wish he would stop believing that he can do this on his own. Will he ever go to a therapist? My biggest fear is wasting my time on someone who seems to not want help. I have no idea what to do or how long to wait. My husband was there for me at crucial point in my life when I was a very angry young woman. For his support I am eternally grateful. I got better because I choose to get better. My husband really doesnt want the help otherwise he would get it. When he finally releases the demon his life will began and I will no longer feel engulfed in pain. I look forward to this day and if this day never comes I will morn what could have been and than move on.
 
I just wanted to let you guys know that I have written another post under rage and anger. Any response would be greatly appreciated when you guys have time! Love and peace SB. Have a blessed and brilliant day!!!
 
serenebreeze,

I don't have a lot to add to what I said earlier, except I think you are absolutely right to take the position that at some point you have to think about your own welfare and that of your son. You are also right in pointing out that you can't heal your husband; he has to want to recover and commit to the hard work.

Only you can make the hard decisions here, but from what I can see you certainly have considered the situation carefully and have tried mightily to do what you can.

The problem is that no partner should have to put up with disrespect and disregard of her feelings and no kid should have to grow up in a stressed-out dysfunctional home.

Much love,
Larry
 
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