question for survivors- trying to figure out 17 year old.

question for survivors- trying to figure out 17 year old.

kedem

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I just found this site now, and I am so thankful to everyone who takes the time to answer questions.
My husband's brother who is 17 has been living with us for a few months. He was the victim of physical and verbal abuse in a disorganized and dysfunctional home.
He is just starting to open up, but there's a lot going on in his head. He suffers from mild/mod depression, occasional anxiety attacks, and frequent headaches and stomachaches. He has no self esteem, and is often edgy, which he shows by fidgeting constantly. He's had panic attacks at times.
He has a very, very hard time trusting anyone, and even after months of unconditional love and support that we have shown him, he doesn't often open up and talk to us. Even his closest friends, he has a strong reserve with, except his best friend of a few years, who is also the victim of abuse, although probably not sexual. He once told me that he is uncomfortable with male touch, even his brother (my husband) whom he loves, and who is the most nurturing person I know. But he does hug him or high five him often anyway.
His father is a porn addict, and was sexually abusive to his wife, my mother in law. I don't believe my brother in law is aware of this, but he was shown porn at an early age, and at one point, became addicted to it, which he isn't now.
My biggest concern is that he admitted to me that one of his biggest screw-ups is that he got too "touchy-feely" with his sister, who is a year younger. He is too big hearted to have forced any attention on her, so I have a feeling it was mutual. It didn't involve any actual sex. I am worried because I have a bad feeling this could mean that aside from the porn, someone in his life was sexually inappropriate with him.
I'm not sure what to think, or how to bring this up with him. At the time, I was too surprised by the admission to think clearly, and I chalked it up to his looking for love inappropriately. Please tell me what, if anything, I need to do right now. Thanks so much!
 
Hi - If you look through the website, there are some posts with references to covert incest & a link to a website. Perhaps someone remembers these posts????
 
I replied to this post earlier, I'm sure I did :confused:

Oh well, I'll try again tomorrow.

Dave
 
My biggest concern is that he admitted to me that one of his biggest screw-ups is that he got too "touchy-feely" with his sister, who is a year younger. He is too big hearted to have forced any attention on her, so I have a feeling it was mutual. It didn't involve any actual sex. I am worried because I have a bad feeling this could mean that aside from the porn, someone in his life was sexually inappropriate with him.
That is indeed a big concern.

I don't think you should minimize whatever happened between him and his sister, or say anything that sounds like denial or excuse making for either of them.

What if he was abused as a younger child, and he's been denying it and not dealing with it up until now because he's been telling himself "It wasn't actual sex"? Many survivors do. What if he was abused by someone who was at times loving and caring, and told himself "That person is too big-hearted to do anything that would hurt me"? Something else many survivors say to themselves.

I think kids want to KNOW that the adults in their lives have a good sense of right and wrong and are willing to act on it. This boy is telling you that he needs adults in his life who are willing to intervene when something is wrong.

Good luck to you and your family.
SAR
 
Kedem,

I'm not in a good frame of mind at the moment (but good enough to know I shouldn't say too much today), however I have the link to the website that deals with "covert incest". It is:

https://www.covertincest.org
 
Wow- I am really blown away by the insight on this board. That is why I hope you will continue to advise me. At first, I rejected the notion of covert incest- it sounded too simplistic. But I have done the research, and ordered the book "Silently Seduced." This is very much a large part of what was going on in his adolescent years.
And yes, there is still the denial and "minimalizing" on my part. I just don't know the scale of wrongness in a sibling relationship- I never had any of the opposite sex. How much is normal? How abnormal is any? How could this situation have come about? And what can I do to help him work through it? (It happened a few years ago.)
I really appreciate your help!
 
kedem,

I think you should call StopItNow! at 1-888-PREVENT. They can answer your questions about the inappropriate contact between siblings and give you some direction about what to do for your brother in law.

Stop It Now! Helpline is a toll-free number for adults who are at risk for sexually abusing a child, for friends and family members of sexual abusers and/or victims, and for parents of children with sexual behavior problems. This helpline service is confidential, available Monday through Friday, 9:00AM-5:00PM (EST) at 1-888-PREVENT (1-888-773-8368).
https://www.stopitnow.org/
 
Kedem
If this young man has been inapropriate with someone, and he's a victim of some kind of abuse, then I would think the two are connected.

Acitng out is behaviour that's an expression of some kind of frustration, anger and rage inside. It's an expression of something we don't understand ourselves, all we know is that we we feel like shit and so we try to pass it on.
That of course isn't the clinical definition of acting out, but it's a pretty good description of my acting out with other men as an adult.

Of course I didn't actually pass on my "unknown feelings" to these strangers, I didn't know their names! But I was for a very short time projecting all my mixed up feeling away from me, they went somewhere; out of my body. But they always bounced right back. They had to, there was nowhere for them to go.

They only went when I began to understand them, and to do that I had to face them in therapy.
Only then could I project them somewhere and not have them crashing back, I projected them exactly where they belong; back to my abusers who until then I didn't actually believe had abused me.

That's why being trusted and believed is SO important to us.

Dave
 
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