Pyschiatrists!

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Pyschiatrists!

I am convinced that those pill pushers who give me ten minutes of their time need to have their heads examined!

Since I have a parity(sp?) diagnosis, my insurance covers unlimited visits to Pdocs and T's. So I asked her what my diagnosis was. She said deep depression, DID, and GAD. I asked her about the PTSD. She said that abuse that long ago cannot be the cause of the depression.

So I asked her about the flashbacks, she actually said "It's like remembering when you fell out of a tree". :mad:

Asked her about the fact I can't stand to have people touch me, my startle responses, and the hypervigilence. She said "Mild paranoia". :mad:

Thank God for T's, because if I had to depend on these quacks, I'd take a dive off a bridge here!

Another quack!!!! Isn't that just ducky? :p

Marc
 
Mine tells me about people who are worse off than I am. He basically tells me how "lucky" I am. Recently he implied that what happened was my fault for being there. He says all kinds of other similar things. He also knows that I will not talk with him about a lot of things under the current circumstances. I basically pay him to talk to me about meaningless conversations which are comparable to talking about the weather outside. He literally sits there and talks at me for an hour and if I try to say anything he cuts me off.
 
Marc,

you should check out the Gay & Lesbian Center up in Hollyweird. I don't know the adress anymore, but its just off Sunset (heading towards Hollywood BVLD.) between Vine and Orange. Its a good place to learn about county and free private psych services in LA County.
 
Marc and Mike,
SOunds like your T's are incompetent!
Good luck with them. I hope y'all can find decent ones!
Casey
 
Psychaitrists

Great label givers are these and have their heads so far up ther own arses they havnt a clue what is real. I came out of hospital worse than I was on entering according to my wife. I viewed them a places of safety, thats how off the wall I was.

In the last three years I have had no less than four consultant psychiatrists, because our area health authority couldnt find a perminant psychiatrist for the WHOLE County of Shropshire.

Telling my story from the beginning (if you please)yet again

I have been
An expelled school pupil
I'm lazy
An alcoholic
I'm a compulsive
A drug addict
A depressive
An Electro Convulsive Therapy candidate
A PTSD sufferer
A sexual abuse survivor

According to my abusers I'm also disturbed and a liar.

I list a whole lot (very negative) more on my blog

Archnut
"And all that was left was hope"

My Story (TRIGGERS)
https://www.waltonhop.blogspot.com
 
Marc

pyschiatrists are good at one thing and one thing only, that is reading books, and quoting reports.

If you don't fit in with that, then you have little wrong with you.

The prob with SA CSA etc in males is, that no-one reports it, so it is never examined in much detail so how do they know, if they haven't been part of the shit?

ste
 
The first time I was interview by a psychiatrist he diagnosed me as being delusional because I mentioned that I would like to be an actor. My PROFESSIONAL experience includes leading roles in several Shakespear productions, Macbeth, The Tempest, Twelfth Night. Ive done summer stock, was artistic director for a small professional company, I do a couple of paid gigs every year with the local university, and even have done some Off Broadway. I have only auditioned for one movie and got a small part in it. Eight Men Out. The reason I stopped was to provide regularsupport for my family.

My point here is that these pompous asses know nothing beyond their own unsubstantiated delusions. My last one was nothing more than a pill pusher. Seriously! Id go in, hed read off a long list of drugs, and Id pick and choose which ones I wanted.

I am sure that there are some good therapists. But I have yet to meet a sane psychiartist.

Aden
 
The more I hear from people the more I realize how lucky I was when I saw a psychiatrist. I was fortunate to be referred to a psychiatrist by a therapist who specializes in adult survivors.

She was very honest and open. Telling me all sides of the situation. She recommended medications, but also said that there were drawbacks. And after spelling it all out, she really didn't try to pressure me, other than extracting a promise that I would consider medications if or as my situation changed. I really respected her for it.

The therapist, I think, was hoping I would choose the medication. I just haven't been up for it. But the psych's attitude left me with a good sense of what's possible.
 
That does seem to be the problem with modern medicine generally. When they don't understand something, they give it a name, and then come up with a drug for it.

In the case of psychological issues, giving emotional and mental states different titles and names ironically seems to keep us removed from what is actually and essentially happening.
 
"She said that abuse that long ago cannot be the cause of the depression."

BULLSHIT! :mad: I have NUMEROUS mental health professionals who say it does not matter how long ago the "traumatic event" happened! PTSD can cause their NUMEROUS issues at any point in time.

TJ
 
One thing stands out so far on this thread.

People are critical of psychiatrists, and far less critical of therapist and counsellors.

My impression, and I'm no expert here, is that the psychiatrist is very clinical and strives to put a name to whatever it is the client presents, then deals with it in the accepted fashion.
They seem to work with quantifiable facts to produce a recognisable diagnosis.

The counsellor / therapist isn't so concerned about 'labeling' the client, and allows the client to state their case fully, and then offer non-judgemental help.

That's a huge generalisation I admit, but if you are 'crazy' and want a label, then see a psych'; you'll get the accurate label.
If you want help, my belief is that counselling / therapy will do us 'crazies' far more good.

Dave ( 'crazy as hell, and loving it
:D )
 
David,

Good points. However, a psychiatrist who sees you for ten minutes every month and doesn't listen to you is hardly clinical. They give you a "diagnosis" to get thier fee. Nothing more.

I had to force the issue, else I would not be able to use my benefits for the therapist.

And, you're right, therapists allow us to define ourselves.

At least, that's the way it seems to me here in the colonies! :D

Peace, my brother!

Marc
 
The reality of the situation is that only regular MDs, DOs (Doctor of Osteopathy) psychiatrists (who may be MDs or DOs) are allowed to prescribe meds. Although some nurse practitioners and other related professions (physician assistants) can prescribe some meds, if you need meds, you have to deal with a psychiatrist.

There are some psychiatrists who also do therapy. While it may be accurate that most psychiatrists are not trained as therapists, there are some who are. Within that number, there are woefully few who have any clue about male victimization. The number of therapists (psychologists, clinical social workers, and a few other professional degrees) who have expertise in male victimization issues is really small compared to the others who have the right degrees but lack experience in this area.

If you need meds, you have to deal with what the market has. Most psychiatrists, in my experience, are happy to do the Rx and let the experienced clinician do the therapy. If you have a decent therapist and you need meds, let the pdoc know that you don't want to change therapists. My bet is that most will be happy to just do the 10 minute med eval and let the other therapist deal with you.

Ken
 
I've got a p and a t that don't help a bit. The P gives me my medication that, I really don't find helpful. My T says she sees things differently than I in what has happened to me and to consider my self lucky I got away with my life, I asked what life? Her reply was, rolling her eyes and telling me, I'm at least breathing aren't I? I don't trust eithre one of them and I know it's not parionia. It's them. After 9 years, how do I just change and start all over again with someone new? Has anyone done that and found sucess?
 
Loki:
If you've had the same t for 9 years and she treats you like that, I'd go looking for someone else. Sheesh, I'd give her the boot if she treated me that way after 9 sessions (probably less).

Don't look at it as a 9 year investment that you have some kind of attachment to. There is an expression about "cutting your losses". It doesn't make sense to play a no payoff slot machine because you believe it's gotta pay off one of these days.

Besides, maybe a fresh perspective will do you good.

Ken
 
Indeed, I have seen great improvement through meeting with a new T... if a clinician doesn't work for you, WHY GO? Once I met with my good T, I started to realize that any therapy prior to that point had been terribly inadequate.

Even a very skilled and compassionate T might not be right for every single client -- it is an important relationship that needs the right chemistry and personality mix, as well as a healthy dose of respect from both parties.

I have also seen first-hand the woeful lack of good Ps as I came to grips with the abuse in my past. In fact, my general practitioner was FAR more helpful than my P, and could (and did) write for the same meds. We worked through my treatment plan without the P, and with the T, and things went swell for me from that point.

That said, there ARE good Ps out there (and I hope to be one of them after medical school), so please don't write off the entire profession! All it takes is one good provider to make the difference...

Good luck everyone, and thanks for venting on this site. It is a tremendous and powerful place.
 
Ken, Kurt,

You're both right. I think I've just gotten comforatble with the same person even though, she doesn't make me comfortable. Does that make sense? I need to get the courage to move on, I hope I have it and that I can find the right person. The starting over part will be hard. I don't like telling my story and to a total stranger. I need to get better and heal and she's not helping at all. Some days I leave her office more depressed. She's made me feel that I did something wrong. Maybe I did somewhere along this journy, I don't know but, I don't think a T is supposed to throw blame on you for being abused over and over again as a child. I'm getting angry and sad just writting this. Things she's said to me over the years are just now popping into my head and I'm feeling anger. I'm sorry. This is no place for this kind of talk.

Devon
 
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