Please help me understand?

Please help me understand?

Mini

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i am a female and i am dating a 23 year old guy who was sexually abused when he was 12 years old.
i love this person but i dont know how to talk to him about my strange feelings. my question is will he do it to another child? i know you may get mad at this question but i am so upset at this crazy awful thought that won't leave my mind. i need help, probably more than he does cuz nothing seems to bother him...its like he was never abused or something. i just dont get it. can someone please help me.

i am so confused , i'm sorry if i have offended anyone it wasnt my intention
 
I have 3 children and felt cautious. I did tell my husband that in a way I feared he may do the same and he told me he would kill himself before ever doing that. I have issues with trusting men so this sure didn't help it.

I don't think anyone can say yes or no he would never do that to another child. I think most of the time they are more protective of children and also scared to be fathers because they question if they'll be good fathers (at least mine did). My husband is a wonderful father

Did your boyfriend ever get help for his abuse?
Does he have any behaviors that could be from his abuse?
 
Mini,

I think you do obviously have to be cautious, but most abused boys, do not become child molesters.

I was abused at about the same age, and it stopped me having a family, only for the reason that I would have been so over protective of them, and they would not have had much of a childhood.

I love kids, and it really hurt to not have a family, I am over protective to kids in the neighbourhood, as my mind set, is like. The World is too dangerous for them, so I protect.

Hope this helps,

ste
 
Mini,

If you have not read this already it is a good place to begin:

https://www.malesurvivor.org/10%20Facts.htm
https://www.malesurvivor.org/myths.htm

If you did not know that your boyfriend had been abused, would you still wonder about this? I mean, have you noticed him talking about or behaving inappropriately with children? Or does he have attitudes about children and sexuality that you find inappropriate?

I have heard lots of men in their 20's, survivors and non-survivors, express worry and fear about being around children, not knowing how to act around them, saying the wrong thing, etc. As a culture we really do not make our young men feel that they are capable and competent when it comes to nurturing, or give them a space to express this or learn about it. :(

SAR
 
Mini
I agree with SAR, does the knowledge that your boyfriend has been abused 'create' your concern or just highlight your normal concerns?

The statistics show that many abusers were themselves abused.
But they also show that few victims actually go on to abuse.
Yes' there's an 'overlap' of abused going on to abuse, but it's a very small percentage.

The main thing in your boyfriends favour is that he's disclosed his past abuse to you ( and maybe others ? )
Abusers work in secrecy, they have to. So they strive to act perfectly normal and to not attract attention.
Yours, and any normal persons, concerns have been raised by his past, an abuser wouldn't take that risk and would keep silent.

Ste said -

I was abused at about the same age, and it stopped me having a family, only for the reason that I would have been so over protective of them, and they would not have had much of a childhood.
And I am in a similar position to his, I have been married for 30 years and have no children.
I just didn't know how I would deal with kids, I was in denial about my abuse - I didn't disclose to my wife until our 25th wedding anniversary. So she lived in ignorance of the real reasons I didn't want kids.
The bottom line was - I didn't trust myself.

I have never had sexual thoughts or fantasies about children, but I did about other men.
My life was one of confusion, I didn't know where my life was heading. And because of the fantasies I was having I often believed that I was a 'pervert' like the people who abused me.

There is nothing wrong with your concern, in fact I think it's the right thing.
I hope we can answer some of your questions, and please feel free to ask whatever you want.

Dave
 
7. The vast majority (over 80%) of sexually abused boys never become adult perpetrators, while a majority of perpetrators (up to 80%) were themselves abused.
 
When I was growing up, I told myself there were ways I would never treat my children because I didn't like the way it felt to be treated like that. I have kept that promise. Somehow I knew how NOT to do the things that were done to me that I didn't like. My kids know they are loved...all of them.

Abuse is bad, and some people succumb to it, but people like you guys who are so anti, I wouldn't hesitate to trust you. You realize what it has done, hate it, and wouldn't ever want to impose that on another child. I would think you would be the best strongest advocates. It's a strength, not a danger.

As far as being "overprotective", I look at it as being "well loved". If you "underprotect", you know what happens. I don't think there's such a thing as loving your kids too much, or wanting to protect them the best you can. When they are adults and on their own, they can "explore the world" with a little more maturity under their belt. Nothing wrong with that.

Dave, I think you'd have made a great dad. I can see that twinkle in your eye!

Hugs,
Lynn
 
i think the fact he was open about it says very good things about him. if he had this fantasy, atraction, i would think he would be far more secretive. i was molested, and to be honest, the thought of touching my kids in a sexual way has never crossed my mind. in fact, as someone else said, the fear of it kept me from becoming a dad for a long time. i have never been tempted to do anything like that, and i feel i am a very good father. i hope my experience helps. naturally, i can't know what goes on inside him, but i can say what i think and feel.
 
Originally posted by Richard Gartner, PhD:
Many men worry about becoming abusers, even if they have no real fantasies or desires about doing so. You have to look into your own heart to see whether there is objective reason for you to be worried. If so, you need to talk to someone about it. If not, you need to consider that your fear comes from distorted thinking. There is no real reason to think that a man who has no desire or fantasy about hurting someone else will do so. However, many of us are programmed to think that sexually abused boys almost inevitably grow up to become sexually abusing men. In fact, the data show just the oppoiste. Relatively few sexually abused boys grow up to become abusers.

Richard
Originally posted by Ken Singer, LCSW:
To add to Richard's last post about moving from victim to victimizer, there are four barriers to prevent one from becoming a sexual abuser (paraphrasing David Finkelhor of the U of New Hampshire, who put this model out 20 years ago).

The first barrier you need to get through is desire or motivation. If you have no desire to touch a child sexually, it is not likely that you will do so. If you do have the thoughts or desires to do so, then you need to depend on one of the following barriers to stop you.

The second barrier is the "inside cop" or conscience. If a person has a desire to molest a child, his inner voice will hopefully be strong enough to overcome the desire by saying, "I am not a child molester. I cannot touch that child because I would not want someone to do that to me. It would be wrong". Note that these prohibitions are coming from a sense of morality and empathy. There is no debate here about the legal consequences or fear of getting caught, etc.

The third barrier is the "external cop". This is the voice that is saying, "You will go to jail, lose your family, job, reputation, etc." It is the fear of consequences that keeps us from doing the behavior we may have desired and somehow rationalized as being ok (distorted thinking). While few people would shoplift something as a security guard was watching, no sexual abusers will abuse a child in front of witnesses who have the power to stop him. This barrier is where the abuser finds the place and has the opportunity to commit the offense.

The last barrier is victim resistance. If all the other barriers fail, the only thing that stands between the person and committing the crime is the victim's ability to resist (by screaming, running, fighting, etc.).

In my experience, the closer you are to the first barrier, the safer you are. While we all have desires or motivations to do things that could get us into legal trouble or hurt someone if we did it (rob a bank, punch out the lights of an annoying co-worker, grab the buttocks of an attractive woman passing by), it is usually the inner cop who says, "That wouldn't be right. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you") and keeps us in line.

Often it is the fear of consequences that prevents us from doing what is wrong or illegal. Think about driving over the speed limit. Whether we believe it is wrong or immoral or has the potential to hurt others by doing 15 mph over the limit, we would not likely do so when there is a cop driving behind us. If the coast looks clear ("All those cops are tied up at that accident I just passed, put the pedal to the metal.") we might rationalize that our odds are low on getting caught.

So, for the question about "what if I have thoughts to molest a child" , recognize that the thoughts are generally the toughest to control. However, you can increase the power of such thoughts by masturbating to them. That is why it is crucial that people not entertain fantasies that (if done in real life) would hurt someone or get one in legal trouble. This does not apply to fantasies of consensual sex with Britney Spears or pretending you are the sex slave for the pirate ship. But if you are fantasizing about having sex with the teenage babysitter, you are potentially playing with fire.

I didn't mean to go on so long but wanted to expand on Richard's observation.

Ken
 
i just want to say thank you so much for all the reply's , i think i may just have distorted thinking but all your replys have truly helped me ...God Bless You all
 
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