perp has been moved out of contact with kids.. what does it mean?

perp has been moved out of contact with kids.. what does it mean?

PAS

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Well in doing some scoping around on the 'net I found the minutes of a certain "management association" meeting that indicated my fiance's perp is now working in a new position for the same employer... but is not directly involved on a day to day basis with young people as he was prior to now.

Am wondering if this is a "promotion" or a way to get him away from kids due to the investigation that is underway on him (launched by my fiance by the way).

This whole thing is just taking so long - I seriously hope justice will be served but the investigation committee is being so slow. The investigation committee indicated when the case was filed over a year ago that it would be completed in January and here we are now almost July and the thing is still going.. they are being pretty tight lipped about it with my fiance..

BLAH! This sucks!! My mind is just spinning.. what if they indeed have given this guy a promotion??? How is justice served then? What will that say to my fiance.. that if you molest a kid you get to be promoted??? What the hell???

I thought these types of groups took allegations of sexual abuse seriously these days!!! It certainly does not seem like they are performing this investigation in the best interest of the complainant!!!!!!!!!!

I never realized how much it would mean to my fiance if this guy was punished until recently. I mean you can never give a survivor back his innocence, so I wondered.. why bother? You cant change history. But now I realize that if this group gives legitimacy to my fiance's pain and makes the perp pay for what he did by revoking his licence to practice his profession, then maybe he might feel that somehow in the overall cosmic sense of things, that this guy's actions would be punished and my fiance could see what happened to him in a new light - in the light that it was WRONG and he does not deserve the pain and anger and guilt and shame he's been carrying and that someone somewhere has finally stepped in to protect him.

Also an investigation working out in my fiance's favour may give him some ammunition to apply to a victims compensation fund to pay for therapy and/or some schooling (he was abused during high school by someone integral to his education so naturally he did not want to attend school anymore and did not graduate from H.S. and now he wants to go to University but cannot afford to pay for all of it.. if my fiance could get $$ for therapy and tuition that would also somehow help things).

But alas.. things are taking so long.. there is NO feedback from the investigation committee.. its just so, painful. Kind of like being ignored/victimized all over again in my opinion, which I suppose is the big fear for a lot of people in even launching an investigation in the first place.

And although we've discussed it on here, there's really no other options for my fiance at this time unless he wanted to go to a civil or criminal investigation though the legal system, and I dont think he wants to do that at this time, much too personal and too painful.

And there were suggestions to let the media know, but unfortunatley this is Canada and we dont go for those big-time newsy splashy things.. up here launching a public information campaign would probably not even get a whiff of interest in the media for fear of charges of slander or libel or defamation, so that option is out too. Until this guy is found guilty of anything he's considered innocent, and anything we say would be defamation of character in that case.

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like going on the website where this perp's picture is posted and writing the word PEDOPHILE over it a million times.. I feel like giving y'all the URL so you can all go and do it too...

I am so angry about this!!!!!!!!

Thanks for letting me rant. Thats about all I can do at this time.

Oh one thing I did yesterday was to write an email to the perp's employer and ask what their policy is on "employment of staff who are currently under investigation for professional misconduct with the professional practice association".

We'll see where that one goes.

P
 
Please keep us posted on the response (or lack thereof) to your letter.

As someone who survived a murder attempt & brought the case to trial only to lose bec. the judge prejudiced the jury AGAINST ME (in La Belle Province, I might add) - I can more than empathize with your fiance's enduring pain. Losing a trial is a crushing blow to one's sense of self & one's credibility. You learn not to trust anyone or any institution or even yourself. To this day, I can't BEAR the idea of being in a courtroom & need a medical excuse to get out of jury duty.
 
PAS,

It sucks, but if you are dealing with a professional organization that has this perp as a member, then you very well might be ignored, not because they are on the perp's side at all, but because they have a responsibility to uphold the privacy rights of their members. The investigation committee is probably limited legally and ethically in terms of what information it can share with you and your fiance. It doesn't mean that they can't or won't perform a fair and thorough investigation, it doesn't even mean that the person investigating the perp doesn't think he's a slimeball too. It just means that they are acting with an understanding that no one on either side of an investigation wants the other side getting feedback about them.

I doubt that this transfer was a promotion. This guy is costing someone money and time and creating negative attention. Usually that doesn't get you promoted whether or not you did anything to deserve it.

I'm sorry this is so hard on you and your fiance. I've been having some angry days myself lately and some time in the batting cage goes a long way.

SAR
 
PAS
in the current climate of abuse allegations I can't imagine any organization trying to cover abuse up once the allegation has been made from outside, the lessons learned from the Catholic church amongst others would surely tell those in authority that cover ups can't work anymore.

There is still a way to go I know, and 'damage limitaton' will be going on, which slows things down.
Not a great situation for you, but the truth usually wins out.

Dave
 
For some reason, it's like, if you report abuse, the people who hear it automatically have the attitude, "Oh, that can't be!" Like someone has nothing better to do than to make it up or something. Or better yet, the kid is always lying. (Even though they have witnesses) And the person who reports it is just whacko.

What frustrates me is the "concern" for the abuser, above the kids. If they ignore it, it'll go away. If they pretend it didn't happen, then *poof* all better. They're so afraid to "accuse" someone, that they leave the kids in danger. Brilliant. "Oh, the kids will get over it, and the abusers have "repented". AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Abusers are "good" at playing the martyr. They are con artists, and very dangerous. Obviously no conscience, or regard for anyone else's life. Of COURSE they are going to do whatever it takes to cover their butts, and people who don't want to hear it are going to buy it. Poor things! Someone accused them of doing what they did in the first place. What? Nobody was supposed to catch them!!! Barf.

Y'know what I hope Pas? I hope they FOUND something they are investigating further, and that's why it's not over yet. I hope THAT is why they moved the guy....because they don't want to take any chances.

I wish you the greatest of luck. I hate this. I hate it with all my heart. For years "they" say, "always believe the child". Ok then, why don't they?

Huh? Indignant? You betcha. This is still a sore spot with me.

Hugs and hugs and hugs,
Lynn
 
Thanks everyone. Indeed the group that is doing the investigation is claiming to take the allegation seriously - I dont believe they would take on such investigations unless they are deemed serious. And indeed recent legislation in our province has "theoretically" placed a lot of emphasis on protecting kids (we just had a very conservative government in our province that enacted a lot of "child protectin" legislation). I'll let those of you who have survived or who are enduring neo-conservative governments federally and state/provincially pass editorial judgements on the actual effectiveness of such legislation.. anyhow.. I digress...... (ooh is my socially-conscious political viewpoint showing??)

I am, frankly, surprised at the slow pace of the investigation considering the seriousness of the charge. My fiance and I are figuring that the perp is just trying to delay, delay, delay, that is his style, and we are a bit shocked and dismayed that he is indeed able to control the process like this.

But then again why the fuck should this surprise us as someone said in this thread that abusers are indeed master manipulators...

I will certainly post any response that I get to my inquiry about the policy on employing people who are currently under investigation for misconduct (keep in mind the professional association which is undertaking the investigation is independent from the employer - i.e. if this guy was a doctor the investigation would be through a college of physicians and the employer might be a particular hospital...) again sorry about the cryptic-ness/vagueness of this situation for some reason I have this nagging thought in the back of my mind that his perp is reading this and I dont want to "throw the case" nor do I want to NOT protect my fiance's privacy...

For the first time I finally feel sucked into this guy's manipulation too.. like I'm just eager for some kind of resolution and some relief on this for both my fiance and me but I can start to get just one tiny glimmer of understanding of what it is like to be under this bastard's control and I dont phucking like it one bit (sorry for the cursing I'm in that kind of mood).

We were planning our lives/wedding planning/house buying so that we would have the month of January 2004 relatively free as we thought that would be when he found out about this investigation and here we are almost July and going ahead with our plans..

Damn... I bet this hearing falls smack in the middle of our honeymoon or something gawdawful like that. Wouldnt that just be the proverbial icing on the phucking wedding cake?

BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!

Thanks for the support. Thanks for letting me vent.

Have a good weekend y'all.. its Canada Day tomorrow and Im not back in until Monday the 5th.

HOLLLLIDDDAAAYYYYY!! PARTAY!! YEAH!

Man I need it.

P
 
Originally posted by Lloydy:
'damage limitaton' will be going on, which slows things down.
Not a great situation for you, but the truth usually wins out.



thanks - I guess I was just under the illusion that the case woudl be over by January as the investigators had said it would be.

I do hope the truth wins out. The suspense is killing me...ok its not but it is adding a shitload to my stress level.. not like planning a wedding (2 months and 3 weeks to go), trying to navigate serious cutbacks/staffing problems at work, ongoing abuse/survivor/partner issues (of course), settling into cohabitation and home ownership with my fiance (back to abuse/survivor/partner issues) and dealing with the suicide of an acquaintance last week isn't enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
 
PAS,

I made complaint against my coach with the sport federation last year. They responded by fining him money, and suspending him from working directly with anyone under 18. That seemed as some kind of success at time.

In March, myself and another person made formal complaints against him with police. We have not heard what is happening with that. I am here to visit family, and I go yesterday to check on it, they say they can not tell me anything about it, as it is 'open investigation'. Idiots.

Anyway, I am glad he is not in contact with children. That is always a good thing.

Leosha
 
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