"Perceived" betrayal of trust
"Perceived" betrayal of trust
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mike,
hell yes on the watered down shit. it is not perceived, it was and is real.
add to the betrayal- manipulation, predatory behavior, fear, protecting themselves, all the perps did that. those sick f____ing bastards.
i am with you brother. take care. i dont perceive shit. it is real..
blessings, guy
hell yes on the watered down shit. it is not perceived, it was and is real.
add to the betrayal- manipulation, predatory behavior, fear, protecting themselves, all the perps did that. those sick f____ing bastards.
i am with you brother. take care. i dont perceive shit. it is real..
blessings, guy
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your beliefs.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your stated wishes.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your feelings.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust manipulates you because of your feelings.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your stated wishes.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust takes advantage of you to satisfy their own selfish sick and twisted wants or desires.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust does whatever they want to you and "perceive" that it is ok.
"Perceived" or not, IT IS A BETRAYAL OF TRUST". I say perceived or not because many survivors cannot "perceive" it themselves, even without everyone telling them that this stuff is "perceived". Part of the reason that the mind splits is because people cannot CONCEIVE the truth. They cannot conceive that someone who is loved and trusted could perform such betrayals.
Yes, I am more politically correct than most people are, but, I refuse to candy coat this crap so that soccer moms and accountants can go to bed at night thinking that this stuff is ok.
I refuse to justify this stuff in the eyes of the public, or anyone, for the sick and twisted people who do it.
Because you (public) cannot conceive that such betrayals can occur, it does not mean that I "perceived" it.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your stated wishes.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your feelings.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust manipulates you because of your feelings.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust ignores your stated wishes.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust takes advantage of you to satisfy their own selfish sick and twisted wants or desires.
A betrayal of trust is when someone who you love and trust does whatever they want to you and "perceive" that it is ok.
"Perceived" or not, IT IS A BETRAYAL OF TRUST". I say perceived or not because many survivors cannot "perceive" it themselves, even without everyone telling them that this stuff is "perceived". Part of the reason that the mind splits is because people cannot CONCEIVE the truth. They cannot conceive that someone who is loved and trusted could perform such betrayals.
Yes, I am more politically correct than most people are, but, I refuse to candy coat this crap so that soccer moms and accountants can go to bed at night thinking that this stuff is ok.
I refuse to justify this stuff in the eyes of the public, or anyone, for the sick and twisted people who do it.
Because you (public) cannot conceive that such betrayals can occur, it does not mean that I "perceived" it.
markgreyblue
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- being betrayed - if you communicate it to the person that is how you felt about it - and they still negate -
is prolly someone - despite the great dissapointment to you - should not be a person in your life who you really can trust -
if they do not validate that your experience of them was such - and through discourse there is no
appreciation of you Mike then -
they are someone you may know ....but you don't have to have lunch with -- so to speak -
if they won't listen or maybe can't (because it is their limitation)
then you need people around you who will make you feel good about you -
I hear you -
m
is prolly someone - despite the great dissapointment to you - should not be a person in your life who you really can trust -
if they do not validate that your experience of them was such - and through discourse there is no
appreciation of you Mike then -
they are someone you may know ....but you don't have to have lunch with -- so to speak -
if they won't listen or maybe can't (because it is their limitation)
then you need people around you who will make you feel good about you -
I hear you -
m
Dam right it is a betrayel of trust, we didn't just 'percieve' it that way. If being abused by someone who is supposed to take care of us isn't a betrayel of trust, then I don't know what is.
Any betrayel of trust is painful for the person who was betrayed, and that pain is real, it doesn't just go away, even if people say we just 'percieved' it as a betrayal. There are few things that feel worse than a betrayal of trust, few things that kill your trust like it.
Besides, even if we did just 'percieve' it, it was real to us, and that is what counts. Everyone percieves things diffrently, like a person on the first floor percieves things diffrently than a person on the tenth; but, what we percieve is real to us, no matter what others think, and being told we merely percieved it as a betrayal of trust hurts. Especially when it is blantantly and obviously a betrayal, that anyone with half a brain can recognize.
Peace,
scott
Any betrayel of trust is painful for the person who was betrayed, and that pain is real, it doesn't just go away, even if people say we just 'percieved' it as a betrayal. There are few things that feel worse than a betrayal of trust, few things that kill your trust like it.
Besides, even if we did just 'percieve' it, it was real to us, and that is what counts. Everyone percieves things diffrently, like a person on the first floor percieves things diffrently than a person on the tenth; but, what we percieve is real to us, no matter what others think, and being told we merely percieved it as a betrayal of trust hurts. Especially when it is blantantly and obviously a betrayal, that anyone with half a brain can recognize.
Peace,
scott
reality2k4
Registrant
Syn: To discern; distinguish; observe; see; feel; know; understand.
Usage: To Perceive, Discern. To perceive a thing is to apprehend it as presented to the senses or the intellect; to discern is to mark differences, or to see a thing as distinguished from others around it. We may perceive two persons afar off without being able to discern whether they are men or women. Hence, discern is often used of an act of the senses or the mind involving close, discriminating, analytical attention. We perceive that which is clear or obvious; we discern that which requires much attention to get an idea of it. ``We perceive light, darkness, colors, or the truth or falsehood of anything. We discern characters, motives, the tendency and consequences of actions, etc.'' --Crabb.
perceived
adj 1: detected by instinct or inference rather than by recognized perceptual cues; "the felt presence of an intruder"; "a sensed presence in the room raised goosebumps on her arms"; "a perceived threat" [syn: sensed] 2: detected by means of the senses; "a perceived difference in temperature"
Abuse happens, it is not a perception, but then again isn't the above, the get out clause?
Those of us who have been there know what they "perceived" and live their lives, trying to percieve the f**cking rest of it
take care
ste
Usage: To Perceive, Discern. To perceive a thing is to apprehend it as presented to the senses or the intellect; to discern is to mark differences, or to see a thing as distinguished from others around it. We may perceive two persons afar off without being able to discern whether they are men or women. Hence, discern is often used of an act of the senses or the mind involving close, discriminating, analytical attention. We perceive that which is clear or obvious; we discern that which requires much attention to get an idea of it. ``We perceive light, darkness, colors, or the truth or falsehood of anything. We discern characters, motives, the tendency and consequences of actions, etc.'' --Crabb.
perceived
adj 1: detected by instinct or inference rather than by recognized perceptual cues; "the felt presence of an intruder"; "a sensed presence in the room raised goosebumps on her arms"; "a perceived threat" [syn: sensed] 2: detected by means of the senses; "a perceived difference in temperature"
Abuse happens, it is not a perception, but then again isn't the above, the get out clause?
Those of us who have been there know what they "perceived" and live their lives, trying to percieve the f**cking rest of it
take care
ste
And yet I might perceive an unintended slight. My judgment in such matters is not always clear. As I attempt to shield my damaged ego, an over sensitivity sometimes overcomes good reason. The idea of mis-perception might well be true an honest. There is room for some benefit of doubt.
While we must trust our feelings, a sense of total self-righteousness seems inappropriate. Sometimes I misunderstand or have been misunderstood. We should not be bound by love to accept that we are always wrong, nor should we love so little that we cannot attempt to understand the perceptions of others.
Aden
While we must trust our feelings, a sense of total self-righteousness seems inappropriate. Sometimes I misunderstand or have been misunderstood. We should not be bound by love to accept that we are always wrong, nor should we love so little that we cannot attempt to understand the perceptions of others.
Aden
Bill_1965
Registrant
A perceived betrayal is one that is perceived. It may or not be real, thus the word perceived. It is real to the one that perceives it, but that doesnt make it real. Although the affects on the person perceiving it are real. Whether warranted or not.
It is human nature to water down (minimize) things or to make a mountain out of a mole hill (exaggerate) things. Not much we can do about how others deal with it, but we can work on how we handle things.
Not everything is black and white. Right and wrong. What on the surface may seem like a betrayal may not be in the bigger picture. I dont know if there is a way to see or determine this on the onset. Some things are defiant betrayals, such as the SA of a child. Some things are betrayals on the surface, but not in the bigger picture, such as not keeping the secret of someone about to commit suicide. Not keeping a secret is a betrayal, but allowing a person to go on and not getting the help is an even larger betrayal of their whole well-being and friendship. Some things are not betrayals, even though perceived, such as misinterpreting the meaning and the affects.
It is human nature to water down (minimize) things or to make a mountain out of a mole hill (exaggerate) things. Not much we can do about how others deal with it, but we can work on how we handle things.
Not everything is black and white. Right and wrong. What on the surface may seem like a betrayal may not be in the bigger picture. I dont know if there is a way to see or determine this on the onset. Some things are defiant betrayals, such as the SA of a child. Some things are betrayals on the surface, but not in the bigger picture, such as not keeping the secret of someone about to commit suicide. Not keeping a secret is a betrayal, but allowing a person to go on and not getting the help is an even larger betrayal of their whole well-being and friendship. Some things are not betrayals, even though perceived, such as misinterpreting the meaning and the affects.