Not your fault

Not your fault
not familiar with these acronyms.
Hi. As lapchinj said it is shorthand for the adult people who adopted me around or just before I turned 3 years old. I call their children the hell spawn. They had four of them. The oldest was male, he was 11 years older. Then another male 9 years older. A female 8 years older and the last was another female 5 years older. They were all my abusers. Best wishes. Scottie
 
I call their children the hell spawn.
I assume being adopted just made them treat you worse on top of the fact as you said they were “hell spawn”. There parents probably raised them to be that. Sorry you had to grow up in such an environment. At least you know you are not alone, sadly. It has really helped me being here in knowing others can understand and provide support.
 
I don't remember the earliest abuse- I was told about it. I was 18 months at that time.
Yeah, that sucks and it's probably a good thing you don't remember the earliest abuse.
 
I assume being adopted just made them treat you worse on top of the fact as you said they were “hell spawn”. There parents probably raised them to be that. Sorry you had to grow up in such an environment. At least you know you are not alone, sadly. It has really helped me being here in knowing others can understand and provide support.
Hi. The family was very dysfunctional, hateful. The adults did not like and seemed at times to hate each other. Constant fights and threats. Their kids had picked up and learned from the adults. The male did not want me and made that clear. The female did, her father paid the costs I understand. I call them the hell spawn because of the abuse they heaped on me. I was the target with no way to defend my self and no one to help. The male and the hell spawn were abusive from the start. I slept in a hallway without a bed. I had a thin mat with blankets. The female at first was nurturing but liked to cuddle me with both of us nude. She also used me for her pleasure. She was less physically abusive but just as emotionally and sexually as the rest.

I was abused physically, emotionally, sexually. The hell spawn loved to humiliate me. The youngest male would force me to drink his pee or he would pee on me and the blankets I had so that I would be punished for wetting the bed. As punishment everyone would be gathered to watch, I would be stripped, spanked, hit all over with either hand / belt / hard object. Yes I would cry and beg, plead, promise to be good. Then after being yelled at I would be made to wear only a diaper all day. I was not allowed to pee in it, so I would have to ask one of the hell spawn to take it off and help me put it back on. There was a price to pay for it. I learned quickly how to give sexual pleasure. If not that it was something humiliating. I knew better than to tell on any of them, what ever punishment they got, I would get much worse. This is just a small example of my early life. Best wishes, Scottie
 
I'm Sorry Scottie. I wish I knew the words that could help you out of that shithole of memories
 
I wish I knew the words that could help you out of that shithole of memories
Hi Jeff. Thank you. Your reaching out to me has been wonderful for me. In a few days when I am feeling better I would like your advice with making a post of one of my punishments as at child I was forced to endure. But I have not mastered the way to create a thread or maybe if there is already one to put my abuse on that others have started. Thanks in advance. Best wishes and hugs. Scottie
 
I think that's a good idea. I think it won't just help you but probably help someone else.
When members see how a family including siblings go out of their way to fuck up someone who is their own flesh and blood both mentally and physically somebody will open up and share their shit with the other members here on MS. I guess the main idea is to get members to open up with the shit they went through. I think the whole idea is to get as many members as we can to open up and become healing resources for themselves and other members.

Thanks - that's pretty brave to share any part of your horror story.

Just give me a ding a ling when you want to start.
 
I'm Sorry Scottie. I wish I knew the words that could help you out of that shithole of memories
Hi Jeff. All the words you have written help. You and those here who reply and comment help. I won't ever be able to lose or be free of those memories. I tried when younger locking them in a chest in my mind wrapping it in the largest chains I could imagine, and throwing it into the deepest oceans. Yet they still broke out and rose up to attack me. I have learned the trick is not to deny them or hide from them, but to admit them, talk about them. That helps take the sting, the pain of them way. Here on this community I can do it safely. And I have wonderful people such as yourself who ask questions to help me explore the issues and depths of the pain before they can become abscesses that fester into something worse. In a weird way knowing I was not alone, that others had to endure what I did and they also survived does help. I grieve they went through it, they suffered it, but also I was not the only one. For so long in my life I hid my abuse thinking I was the only one, and I was going to be seen as damaged goods if people knew. Here I learn that is wrong. Thank you, and thank the entire community. Best wishes, hugs for those that wish them. Scottie
 
Thank you for posting this. Even as a child when the therapist with my file would try to help me my thoughts were I must not tell and that they wouldn't understand. I did not realize as a child they did understand, they knew what those bruise meant, they knew what the strange reactions I had to certain movements by adults meant. Sadly unlike here in the movie clip, they couldn't reassure me nor comfort me. Best wishes. Scottie
 
I wanted all of you who tell your stories here to know that I see you. I cannot know the pain you went through, but I grieve with you brothers.

To me, you are the bravest men I have ever known. To write, think, live, endure, to keep going on to tomorrow. You are brave.

You give me courage in my own journey. You help me to see that I am not a coward.

I’m sorry you have to be here, but also wanted you to know how strong you make me feel by being here. Thank you for sharing.
 
I won't ever be able to lose or be free of those memories.
I think that it's safe for me to say that we can get rid of the pain that is attached to memories but the memories will always be there with us. Memories are our past we cannot avoid them but there is no law that says that memories of horrors past must come together with the pain of those horrors. Memories can be remembered naked without any feelings. Memories can pop up with happy feelings of times past. But there is nothing that says a memory of a bad time in our past must come along with the horrors of those past events.

I must not tell and that they wouldn't understand. I did not realize as a child they did understand, they knew what those bruise meant
Papasan tried very hard not to let me get bruised up, but with gigs like the parties, it was almost impossible not to get bruised up. I would just answer to a question about my bruises that it was due to my activity in the sports of judo and gymnastics.

You give me courage in my own journey. (...) I’m sorry you have to be here, but also wanted you to know how strong you make me feel by being here. Thank you for sharing.
Sharing not only stories but sharing the horrors and feelings of those stories is very important, but we have to be careful not to trigger anyone
 
I read this whole thread over a few days and it's affected me in a very surreal way.

Most of this abuse I cannot relate to at all - child prostitution, extreme beatings, snuff films etc. it is shocking. I'm so sorry.

But so much I can relate to - the broken lives. The despair and suicidal ideation. The misery and hopelessness and confusion almost from birth. I'm almost 40 now and still slipping into wishing I was dead, imagining how good it would feel to cut my wrists and let all the blood drain out. It's sick and scary.

I also relate to the sense of 'shadow creatures' following me. I had that as a kid and complained to my parents.

Reading this thread has made me feel kind of crazy-sane. I identify with you guys and your experiences, even tho I can't remember anything quite like you remember. My mind has been flicking through childhood memories the past 24 hours as if it is searching searching searching for something I can't remember. My life feels incomplete and untold and un-remembered. I feel a bit like I'm in the Truman show trying to find clues about what my life really was like. I'm suspicious and wondering about almost every childhood holliday and every adult I knew... Was it them? Was it then? I wonder.

One night after reading a bunch of this thread I tried to sleep and had mild pain in my penis and backside. After I fell asleep I woke up a couple hours later having a wet dream but I couldn't remember the dream which is weird cos I always remember. And 50+% of the time my wet dreams are not about sex or nudity but about fear and running, trying to escape etc.

I do have 'memories' of abuse. I am unoffically diagnosed with DiD and one of my alters has recorded a bunch of memories of sex with my mother, including sodomy and swearing and telling me I'm disgusting and hated by her. When I told someone about this I broke down crying uncontrollably.

The same alter remembers being sodomised by a man who first shot me up with drugs. I hadn't thought about this for awhile, but when I recently told a friend I cried again. I cried when I mentioned the needle, which is the piece of the story I was least sure about. But it was the place where I wept. So I'm more sure now.

I also have much more tangible and certain memories. I saw my dad's penis a lot as a kid. Normally flacid. I did see it erect a number of times too but always through clothing - under his nightshirt.

I remember taking my little sister behind a tree in the yard and trying to put my flacid penis in her vagina at age 4-5. She is 18 months younger than me. It didn't work. I wasn't erect. But I tried.

Somewhere in between those past two memories which are certain, and the DID memories which are very foggy and feel like someone inside me telling me things rather than feelings like memories I experienced... Is a strange sense of performing oral sex on my mother. When I remembered this it felt like a memory I had had for a very long time. But it felt more like a fantasy I had had rather than a memory. But it is there, and has been since childhood, just like a 'real' memory, and unlike the DiD 'reports' of abuse coming to me from alters inside me.

Like a lot of you guys I did a short stint of military service which I didn't enjoy. The army stripped away all my coping mechanisms and I felt naked and ashamed and under pressure to perform all the time. I was super fit but felt so fatigued all the time. I could run and lift weights all day long in my own time, but when on duty rucking through the bush I hated it and wanted to die. The only relief came when shit started blowing up and we got into contact and had to put rounds downrange and fight through or break contact. This was all training - never real. I didn't deploy. I didn't make friends in the army really. There was a couple of girls I got along with well, and a couple of guys too, but mostly everyone was so macho and sarcastic and immature I always felt threatened and scared. When cleaning weapons I remember guys making heaps of sexual innuendo and I always felt uncomfortable. When there was a big group it was always unsafe. When on piquet/watch with one other guy it was much better. We could actually talk like human beings then but when there was a mob it was a constant dick sizing contest. But nothing super bad happened to me in the army. I just did my time and discharged.

I brought that up cos I notice a lot of the guys who posted have done a lot of hard things in their lives, and had success. I succeeded in the army, though I hated it. I went to uni (seminary) at age 32 and studied for 4 years to get a degree in theology. I did really well. During this time I continued to work part-time.

I've worked for close to 20 years in blue collar work driving machinery. Now I'm finished uni I'm back there but still only part time cos I'm such a mess. Im good at it. My bosses love me and rely on me. They use me in the areas of the business that require high productivity and some level of initiative and knowledge to keep on top of everything. They leave me to it and know Il sort it all out. Despite all this I now only work 3 days a week cos I'm such a mess. They would love to have me full time but I just can't do it since I started engaging with all my trauma and depression and despair.

This is kinda insane to me cos just 2 years ago I was actually working in a church (on extended leave from my blue collar machinery job). I was preaching a lot. Not every week but at least 1-2 times a month. I had lots of other responsibilities. My boss used to comment on how large my work capacity was. I kept offering to take things off his plate so he could go look after his family etc and he was grateful. So I was working 50+ hours a week plus lifting weights for another 10+ hours a week. But when I wasn't working or training or studying I was in bed, staring at the wall a lot. I didn't really wanna live. I didn't have hobbies or meaningful friendships or relationships really. My hope was in heaven, and maybe in finding a wife, and in the meantime it was all pain management - stay busy, stay distracted and striving to achieve or get stronger or smarter or something.

Wow this post got really long and I got way off topic. Huhm, so the main point was, my life is falling to bits, and it's falling to bits more since I read this thread, and i feel kind of more and less insane at the same time. It's surreal to read about men who were brutalized so badly and identify with you all so strongly. It makes me wonder what else happened to me. I remember so little, but my life is on fire just like you guys. So I'm one of you
 
I do have 'memories' of abuse. I am unoffically diagnosed with DiD and one of my alters has recorded a bunch of memories
Oh, another system, hiya. We have been officially diagnosed, but knew for a good bit before that.
Somewhere in between those past two memories which are certain, and the DID memories which are very foggy and feel like someone inside me telling me things rather than feelings like memories I experienced...
Yeah sounds like that's the emotional amnesia thing. Technically when the memories aren't directly yours, it can kind of feel like they are almost someone else's, or having missing emotional connection that you would otherwise have about memories that felt like your own.
It's surreal to read about men who were brutalized so badly and identify with you all so strongly. It makes me wonder what else happened to me. I remember so little, but my life is on fire just like you guys. So I'm one of you
Yeah, that's about where I was at when I first arrived here. Complete and utter mess, and a lot of the same emotions. Some of those things I identified with have proven to be things I experienced, some of them not. Or at least not yet. Even now that I have recovered one complete continuous memory, including the identity of the only one that wasn't a stranger... The remaining details about my numerous other abusers remains mostly out of reach. I know some of what they did, I remember some of the things they said, but I don't know who they are, or when they happened. This is just something that I'm going to be working on for years, and I'll probably never get some of it back. Thankfully I have a really good therapist who has also worked closely with, and sort of specialized in working with systems for like 9 years now.

Warmly,

Stasis and Co
 
I'm suspicious and wondering about almost every childhood holliday and every adult I knew... Was it them? Was it then? I wonder.
Similar thoughts of my own scattered childhood
 
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