NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!

NAMBLA?! I can't beleive this!!
I just watched a program today about life in the 1800's in edinburgh.
They had boys working down the sewers cleaning them out for a penny a day.

It was filthy work, and they had to buy the torches to light down there.
Men would visit the sewers to pay the boys an extra penny for sex.

CSA has gone on for the duration of time, nobody has the will nor wit to do anything about it.
Most public toilets are closed because they have been known to harbour men who pay boys for sex.

How many were found out, NONE!

We can only keep chipping little by little, to make people understand,

ste
 
I went on to that site in the 90's as I have said earlier.
Nobody can tell us who we can fantasise about is the issue on this site.

They could even quote the number of boys abused is never known, because they never thought it was abuse, but love or whatever.

I was reading of one perp who had many boys who he took on holiday, and even talked graphically about how he was accepted into the family, often holding the boy involved.

That was in front of the boys parents!
He was grooming him right in front of his parents!
They just thought he was a good friend to the little boy.

If I had a boy, and he brought a man home who was way out of his age limit, the red lights would flash onto danger.

I grew up in the 60's among flower power and free sex, just think of the hurt it did to me.
Free sex as a boy meant just that, take what you want, I will pay later.

Guess my logic was totally wrong, as a boy,

ste
 
I like your post, jacobtk. NAMBLA is taking advantage of the fact that there is still not much information out there about the sexual abuse of boys in the general public. I think as the word gets out more and more about this abuse, it will become increasingly difficult for NAMBLA to get an audience other than their own membership for their twisted message.

And reality2k4, if I found a strange man trying to befriend my son who wasn't trying to befriend me at the same time, I'd make sure that man knew in no uncertain terms that he was not welcome.

I had older male friends as a boy, but they were either friends of my parents or my friends' parents. I would have zero trust for any older male showing an interest in my son who wasn't from one of either of those two groups.
 
There used to be an organization online called Better A Millstone. They would report on child pornography and work toward reporting people or organizations that sponsored or supported child pornography in any way. Also the American Family Association has reported against NAMBLA in their newsletter. Better A Millstone is no longer online, not sure why.

These are the only organizations I know who reported against NAMBLA.

Andy
 
whois bless them.

Have a telephone number and address now.

Oh and a host who I'll give a ring tommorow.

Thanks for all your support.

Mark
 
The most pro-active group in the UK is phoenix survivors.
Shy Keenan digs up more dirt than a dredger floating through the sewer of life.

Guess what! Her site is constantly flamed by kiddie fiddlers, she said it, not me.
Her tireless fight has unearthed more pedo rings than all the police forces together.

That is only a figure of speech but she does blow open this whole cover up of abusers who are in authority in the UK.

NAMBLA must have protection from high up, it would never survive other than to feed the beasts who think there is nothing wrong with having sex with boys.

Abuse is probably the biggest scourge society faces, and ultimately causes massive resources on Governments throughout the world in anti social behaviour, to drugs, prostitution, even murder.

Just a footnote, but these gangs of criminals who the police are scared of, often abuse kids, and the kids are terrified to tell, because often they are manipulated into running drugs, or depending upon the gang to supply drugs.

Too terrified to tell, shut up for life, you bet!

ste
 
I agree that NAMBLA must be getting funding and support from somewhere. I also suspect that law enforcement is busily trying to get to the bottom of that support. There is no public support for pedos, and the law enforcement agencies know that their profile is improved for every pedo they catch. If it's one thing the police like, it's good publicity, so that alone should keep the NAMBLA adminstration up at night.

Also, look at the huge decision a month ago by Microsoft and the major North American banks to start working against child porn. There are some massive resources being directed at stopping these abusers.

I agree that there are probably some powerful and wealthy people behind NAMBLA, but the _really_ powerful people, at least in Canada and the US, appear to be aligning themselves against them. Our job is to make sure that the people on our side know how much we appreciate them, and also to help get the word out on child abuse.
 
Sure! Call the crime editor! Call the health editor! Call the business editor and tell him about the banks going after pedophiles.
 
Yah know, there is such a thing as directing so much fury and energy at perps that one avoids doing the really painful work of healing oneself ...
 
Since the subject has come up, I'd just like to say that Greek homosexuality is often misunderstood. For a good accessible introduction, have a look at a book by my colleague Kenenth Dover, Greek Homosexuality. Sick groups like NAMBLA will of course take the facts and twist them however it suits them.

Much love,
Larry
 
A bit like a group I am trying to infiltrate at the moment. Here is a recent comment from one of their members. I hasten to add that this site I am monitering has no images on site. If they did I would not be doing what I am doing

"Paedophiles are no different to any other men. This sort of myth propogation does no good at all, much like the recent example LDD showed where The Sun/NotW used the pictures of Roy Whiting where he looks like a typical cliched child molester.

You'll be telling us paedophiles are genetically more in common with crabs next."

And this from the same poster:

"ALL men use the same tactics on their sexual prey, whatever age or sex that prey may be. There is no difference between paedophiles and whatever you call a 'normal' male.

And yes some females are the same.

Roy Whiting is not a 'typical' child abuser, is there any such thing? The point was your scum friends in the tabloids are not interested in you are any abused kids. If they were they wouldn't try to brainwash their readers into believing a stereotyped image of what a child abuser is. They would concentrate on stressing that they are no different in looks or mentality to any other person".

We really do have our work cut out for us.

The worlds gone completely off its trolley.

Kirk

"Lets grab this bull by the horns and swing it about a bit"
 
Kirk, I have little interest in gutter news that sell on the back of abuse.
Yes, it is a feeding frenzy with joe public seeing a stereotypical effigy.

They dont have a "cause", all they are interested in is selling their drivel to the masses.

I would suggest to all that sites like nambla will never go, they could not exist for decades without the legal know how, and finances available to keep it going.

Go figure it out,

ste
 
The perp runs this one up the flagpole:

"ALL men use the same tactics on their sexual prey, whatever age or sex that prey may be. There is no difference between paedophiles and whatever you call a 'normal' male.
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Hmmm. I see. I guess that means that all men are sexual predators? What happened to this perp's complaint about stereotypes?

It's also interesting to see that there is no difference between 1) preying on an innocent child and 2) making sexual advances to someone your own age who is equipped to handle the situation, make clear informed choices, and decide what is best for them based on adult resources and experiences. What happened to the bitter tears about false reasoning?

It's infuriating even to have to THINK about this nonsense, but the implications of not doing so are so grave.

Larry
 
I agree with the perp on one point but for different reasons. The media shouldn't stereotype on image as it leads people to believe they can see perps where in reality they can look like anything. They don't all wear trench coats. They're not all old. They're not all scruffy looking etc etc.

And in response to putting efforts into digging out these perverts and exposing them. Yeah it does detract my energies from more cerebral actitvites such as councolling but at the moment it feels good! I feel worthy of standing up and saying you may have done it to me but I'm gonna do everything to limit the chances of you doing it to anyone else.

And to be honest yeah I'm annoyed at the moment. My sister is a beautiful person who has never hurt anyone. At the moment she's giving birth to her son who died yesterday after 21 weeks of her pregnancy. Bad things happen to good people. The least I can do is to make bad people have the bad things they do bite them on the arse every so often!

Rant over.

Mark
 
Jacob,

I thought boylovers were supposed to care more about the boys than they do themselves.
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Isn't that the truth. Love doesn't have a thing to do with exploitation of the innocence and trust that another person has because he is so much younger. That exploitation is, in fact the very essence of abuse.

It occurs to me that both love and abuse are about power. To love is to use one's power to nurture and protect for the other one's benefit, even at the expense of one's own. To abuse is to use one's power to exploit and harm for the benefit of oneself, even at the expense of the other's.

Much love,
Larry
 
It's infuriating even to have to THINK about this nonsense, but the implications of not doing so are so grave.

Larry [/QB]
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Thats exactly the problem Larry the people in power look upon this sort of garbage as just that ... garbage, not understanding that some people actually believe it.

And with people just disragarding it as twaddle gives the authours more credibility because no one in power does anything about it ... Whats the old saying:

"All it takes for evil to continue is for good men to stand by and do nothing".

How very apt

Kirk
"Lets grab this bull by the horns and swing it about a bit"
 
Kirk I don't think you are giving the people in power much credit. They have every reason to go after NAMBLA. Supporting pedophile organisations does not earn you votes. Closing them down does.
 
Stereo-typical images of paedophiles!

The three friends that wrote supportive statements for me, prior to going to court (they stated how my character had changed since speaking up to them) all had images in their minds of what the perv would look like!

They all expected to see some grubby little old man...what they actually saw in court was a bloke that really just looked like any other typical 69 year old! They wouldn't have picked him out from a group of 10 men of a similar age as the one that was the perv! They would have expected someone that was overweight, wearing thick glasses and with grubby stained clothes!

He really could have just been anybody!

Best wishes ...Rik
 
Let's expose it then!

You put nambla into google and they come out as number 1. Surely we've got enough knowledge on this site to change that with another site saying what they are really about?

Mark
 
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