my story

my story

beccy

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hello to all,

I've been coming to this board for weeks now and feel a bit guilty, as I havn't really written much, so finally I'm going to tell a bit about my situation.

I am the partner of an SA survivor for 11 years. He told me of the SA by his sister (he doesn't know how old he was, 4-6?) 5 years ago, along with the fact he thought he was attracted to men and the two were maybe connected. I was very comforting to him/empathetic/shocked/saddened etc and did offer if he wanted to talk, I was there for him. He also told me, he'd said to a man he worked for 'I think I want to kiss you', to which the man replied, his boyfriend wouldn't be very pleased about that. So, we decided to have an open relationship, so he could explore that side of himself. In the end, he didn't explore anything, and I mearly kissed one man, one night and that was that. Then I got pregnant (with partner) and when we found out, he was devastated and told me he thought he might be gay. I fell appart, but through family support, we worked it out and through talking, he said he wasn't gay. We had our wonderful daughter and to a degree we were happy. I then fell prgnant again and became depressed about it. My mother suggested seeing a homeopath/therapist and one year on, it suddenly dawned on me, there seemed to be situations/problems which could be linked to the SA. I felt horrified to not have noticed sooner. Felt like I'd been uncaring/selfish and stupid and not looked after myself at all, or my partner. On further thinking, I have come to realise that at the time, I had so many fears he really wasn't attracted to me, coupled with the mess I had become from our disfunctional relationship, I was no longer myself and therefor couldn't possibly think straight/productively. I tentatively suggested the possibly connection of my partners issues to the SA and he was very responsive and willing to accept/begin to explore etc. I think his positive response was due to the fact he had then been in homeopathic treatment for nearly a year and so, dealt with some stuff already.

I then started coming to this board and became aware of the possiblility of lying from partner, became aware of the feeling he was hiding something. Visited my mum and when I returned the feeling was stronger, so when he took the kids out, I searched the house! Found extra strong condoms/lube in box in bedroom and freaked out. Obviously confronted him and he said he drove to service stations on a few occasions with the intention of having sex with a truck driver, but never followed it through. I was so paranoid and it was worse, because he initially lied to me about how many times he did that. Trust became very difficult. I then told him, I still didn't feel he was being honest with me, and I would feel more comfortable just being friends until this changed. Still offer love/support, nobody move out or anything drastic. That's when he told me he'd had another memory about a teacher at school. Thought he may have been SA by him. :( He was at that school from 9-12 and has since had no more memories return. I was upset byond belief for him. We cried and had two weeks of crisis where I offered all the support I could give.

He then decided he need weekly therapy (along with monthly homeopathy) and is seeing someone. I was much relieved. I have since found it difficult not to be paranoid/scared/trust. Also, I feel angry about all this time with our kids which should have been filled with joy, having been full of my total panick he might be gay/leave me, along with other child care problems/arguments.

The first really great thing that seemed to happen for him, was the realisation that all his sexual issues are NOT due to the fact he's gay, but all the other SA stuff. He felt so happy and we were actually sexually active for a couple of weeks. Now, as he's going more deeply into stuff, the whole possibility of sexual contact is very threatening to him. Also though, after seeing my H/T this week, I realised it's actually quite threatening to me too. To explain, I think sex has become very confused in our relationship, where I've actually ended up feeling quite abused myself and even ended up thinking that's what I wanted :confused: Does that make any sense? I have realised there are a whole load of intimacy things I need in order to feel I can believe he really wants me. To make me feel safe/secure/reassured and desired. My H/T suggested a break from sexual conact, so we agreed to go week by week and see how we both feel.

I do realise now, that I've spent our whole relationship having all kinds of things projected onto me. I've ended up angry, then felt bad, forever appologising/feeling like I've been horrible and feeling sympathy for partner. I have felt dirty/disgusting/unattractive/confused and lost all my pride/self esteem and respect. He's shut me out, thrown things, been angry about all kinds of stuff and I'm really only just beginning to see all that for what was.......why was I in a relationship like this :confused:

Last night, I was walking round with false tan on my legs and only nickers on. Me and partner were chatting and he became awkward and I asked him if anything was bothering him. He said he felt guilty about enjoying seeing me in my nickers adn worried he'd over stepped the mark. As in too much for me. I became momentarily confused, said I didn't even know he was feeling sexual, so how would that be too much for me? Then I wondered if he was projecting, so asked him if really it was him that was really bothered by it. He admitted it was. This projection keeps happening. I find it soooo confusing. In the past, this would have been, 'I get confused/angry, we row, etc etc'. I said this has to stop. Your issues are your issues and while you keep projecting them onto me, there is no honesty, and we can't even talk about the issue at hand. So, the real issue was, he felt threatened by the possibilty of sexual contact. It's so hard not to take these things personally. I certainly wasn't being sexual and don't even want that at the moment. But intelligently I realise it has nothing to do with me. I feel relieved that finally I am being stronger/rational and looking after myself. It's just hard to actually trust my perceptions after all these years of confusion.

At the moment, he's become distant again. Comes back from therapy/seeing friends, seems to want to tell me stuff, then becomes awkward. He said he thinks I'm going to be angry with him. I have said I don't expect him to tell me everything. He says his therapist said this is a necessary stage to work through in order to be able to realte fully. It's so hard to just be myself, when I constantly feel it causes problems, but I know this is the only way to go. I have repressed/compromised myself in so many ways in this relationship and know that has to stop, but my confidence is so little now. Also very fearful of what the future holds. All this along with 2 kids (4 & 1) and all the s**t we've already been through.........I feel exhausted and like I just want someone to love me/like me/want me for me. Any comments/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

peace and love to all of you..
 
Beccy
very often the abuse 'we' suffered leaves us with a seperation of sex and love, we see sex as nothing more than a set of physical acts that have nothing to do with love and intimacy.

We might love our partners more than anything else in the world, we might like the pleasures of sex as much. But the natural connection was smashed long ago when we were subjected to sexual acts out of context as kids.

We often also react against someone 'coming on' to us sexually as well, even someone we love because that can trigger flashbacks to our abuse.
Even walking around in your panties as you did can seem overtly sexual, and therefore threatening because we can then feel that we're obliged to respond.
We might well find the 'action' sexually stimulating, but we're ill equipped to make the right response.

Many of us seem to be in a classic Catch22 situation, if we initiate sex we feel like an abuser and if we respond to someone elses initiation we react as though they are an abuser - which obviously neither person is, that's just our distorted thinking at work.
So we avoid all situations where sex might happen, we go to bed later that our partners, don't shower with them etc, and then end up masturbating for sexual pleasure / release, very often fantasizing about the very thing we've just avoided.

It's a crap deal all round, and one that both partners have to work at, maybe by introducing a bit of sexual caressing into intimate moments but not going all the way, therefore reinforcing the sex and intimacy/love link ?

Dave
 
Thankyou for your reply Dave.

Much of what you've written I have already read in various books and on this site, but for some reason, it still seems helpful :)

Do you think that maybe he wasn't projecting at all, but just experiencing the situation from all angles? eg: he felt like a perp for enjoying watching me/I was like a perp for being(in his eyes) seductive? If that's the case, I feel bad for misinterpreting what he said and then proceeding to feel cold towards him all evening :(

think I'm quite confused all the time at the moment and have a lot of anger about the past/everything that's just happened. Feel like I'm not coping very well and feel angry that I even have to figure all this out.

I think I'm just going to have to have some trust and believe it's me he wants. I do suppose the fact that these awkward moments have always happened must mean he IS actually attracted to me. Realised that just now :) So, maybe now I might actually be able to stop taking it personally and be of some use to both of us.
 
Beccy,

So much of what you're relating here sounds so very sadly familiar. Many of the issues and certainly the feelings, confusion, exhaustion, etc, I know all too well. Still, I am encouraged to know that you're both in therapy, each with your own counsellor, and working on these things for yourselves and each other. No matter what, I encourage you to continue getting the counselling and support for yourself.

Reading Dave's reply also brings back a lot of sad and painful memories for me (I left my now ex some months ago). I know that what he says is/was true of my ex, but my ex was avoiding looking at/dealing with any of those issues, so in the end there was nothing constructive left for me to do but leave.

In your case it strikes me that there may still be reason to hope for growth in your relationship, at least for so long as you both are actively working on things. As with your husband, I do feel it's important to continue unwrapping, examining and working through your own issues as well. If I've learned nothing else as a result of my relationship with my ex, I've learned that I brought my own dysfunctional thinking and behaviours to our relationship, whether I was aware of it at the time or not. Taking my focus off of him, his behaviours and deceptions, his CSA, sexuality, addiction and other issues and committing my focus to my own stuff is not easy, but I understand now how absolutely necessary--and potential freeing--it is for me to do that. And I mean "freeing" in terms of my relationship with myself, with or without him.

Anyway, much love to you on this journey. Please do post again, as you will find countless people here who can fully empathize with what you're going through and how you're feeling, and they're an invaluable source of encouragement and support. (Not to mention folks like Dave, whose incisive posts/replies have never failed to be illuminating and a blessing, at least for me!:-D

Stride
 
Thankyou Stride, everyone's so kind and encouraging here.

sorry to hear things didn't work out for you with your ex. Although if it means you're actually happier now, that's a very positive thing for you.

I know what you mean about working through my own issues...think I had enough to start with, but also gathered many more from this relationship. We've both had a problem with smoking weed and in the past also alcohol. Those things really added to all the confusion back then, so thank god that's under control now.

Seeing my homeopath/therapist has definately been and continues to be one of the best things I've ever done for myself. Although I actually have my mum to thank for that, and for a while I dreaded going and blamed her for everything that seemed to explode between me and partner as a result. I now see all that was necessary. I really had to stand up for myself and put my foot down, as all his issues were making family life with two little kiddies unbearable. Until we had kids, I didn't seem to care enough about myself to sort it all out.

got to go, baby crying.....

peace
 
Beccy
I've just seen that you're from the UK, send me a PM and let me know where you are - I might be able to recommend some people or other resources for you.

I'm sorry that I can't reply more, I'm on my brothers computer in Canada at the moment, and we're moving on tomorrow. But from next week normal service will resume and I'll be back home.

Take care, and Stride is talking a lot of sense there, as usual.

Dave
 
Dave, will send you a PM..

spoke to partner last night about realsiing he probably wasn't projecting the other day. Said sorry I misunderstood. He was much relieved. I explained it's ok to enjoy looking at me, I don't feel abused if you do that, I like it! You're not taking advantage to enjoy that without me knowing. Cheered him up no end. :) He wanted to know what other things I would find acceptable also, and what would be crossing the line. I't kind of like he's re-learning/re-defining sexual feelings/behaviours.

I realise I need to try and be less defensive and then I can be more helpful.

will write again soon,

positive energy to all of you
 
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