Moving on

Moving on

Lloydy

Registrant
The regulars here will probably have noticed that I don't come here as often as I used to, well.......
I come here and read, but don't post as much as I did.

Am I cured? hell, no! I've always said there isn't a 'cure' - so don't bother looking for one!

So 'where' am I, and does the place I'm in right now give other survivors hope for their futures?

I'll say right now that there is hope for a better life, and that it is available to everyone.
It's not easy, and I'm certainly not saying that what I've done is exceptional - or that I'm in any 'smarter' than the next guy. I'm a very ordinary guy who somehow found the will to make the effort.

Can I say that I've reached a milestone in my healing and things suddenly changed? No I can't.
I still have flashbacks, nightmares, urges to act out and all the other shit I've had for years.
The difference is that I've developed ways to deal with the shit that are different, and apparently much more successful, than the ones I tried years ago. ( for those that don't know me, I started therapy in 1999 )

All the big and significant changes, for me, took place early on - mainly in therapy. Since then I've been tinkering around the edges by going to group therapy and coming here to MS. Which has been a wonderful experience for me, I learned so much about myself from the interaction with you guys. We learn from each other success and failures, we practice social skills and so many other things that our abuse prevented us from fully developing when we were young.
We make mistakes, hell, we've seen arguments here that make bar brawls look like nursery school tiffs! But we learn all the time.

Is there nothing left for me to learn then? Of course not, that's why I'll be here sometimes for a long time to come. And trust me, I'm no genius!

I think I've come to a realisation that I'm probably not going to make any major changes to the way I am from now on, for me "this is probably as good as it gets".
Which is OK by me, I'm not the slightest bit dissapointed that there isn't a magic cure that will erase all my bad memories, stop my nightmares and kill the urges to act out.

What I've got is an acceptance of my memories, based upon the FACTS that THEIR abuse of me WASN'T MY FAULT. So the memories now have the right amount of importance attached to them, or should that be - they slot into my other childhood memories instead of dominating them, in the distorted way they once did.
If I think about my childhood now, I remember David as a boy, playing and doing things normal kids do.
The fact that some people abused me sexually is something that I can't deny happened, and I don't deny the important effects it has on me still.
But it's NOT the only thing that influenced my life, lots of perfectly normal things did as well - good or bad.

So what about the influences I still have then?
Like the urge to act out.
I last acted out with a strange man in 1998, I guess it was early 1999 that I last seriously went cruising. So that's a great success as far as I'm concerned, and my wife's happy about that as well!
Today my acting out is masturbation to porn or fantasy of sex with strange men. I could do without it, and the fact is both things are losing their appeal. But do I worry about it?
Do I hell! I refuse to beat myself up over a behaviour that's become ingrained for over 30 years and has its roots in the abuse someone else subjected me to. It's not my fault so why the fuck should I feel guilty?
Like I said, this is a behaviour that's fading away. Perhaps 3 or 4 years ago I wanted it to stop completely? I think I did if I'm honest, and with the benefit of hindsight I can now see that it was never going to happen overnight. So I've settled for the slow fade.

Over the last few years I've had a bit to do with other survivors, and the guys who've been at 'healing' for a while all seem to have settled into accepting a levelling off and a slow down in the rate of change we experience.
That might well be the last thing someone new to healing wants to hear, but I believe it is the reality we face.
Time is a great healer, and to expect results in some kind of time scale isn't realistic, we have to do the work and then perfect the results to get the full benefits - over time.

Which is what I'm doing now, just chillin' and spending time on me.
And that's something that is also true of my other interests or hobbies as well. I've been hugely involved with a 4x4 Club for about 10 years now, editing the magazine and being on the committee. But I'm resigning. And I'm also letting a lot of other 'stuff' go.
I'm still going to compete in my 4x4, but it's someone elses turn to do all the work.

That might sound surprising? After all, I've managed to do all these things while I was also seriously struggling with my healing. And if I'm OK with that now, then the other stuff should become easier?
It's a great theory, but somehow I just want a taste of the easy life for a while. And it actually feels very good - liberating in fact - to do this.

In a way I feel that I have "made it" through my abuse and the subsequent healing, so now I want to damn well enjoy it! :D

Dave ;)
 
Dave,

It sounds like you are content for now. Take some time to step back and enjoy a slower pace for a while. You deserve it!

God Bless,

Brian
 
Dave:
Your presence here is always a good thing for the newer guys as well as the vets. You can't buy your kind of experience and insight (however, I can make a living from it to some extent).

I hope you will not say goodbye and drop away. Even if you don't post as much (and I think you have the record on posts around here), please come by with your point of view from time to time.

We're a lot more environmentally friendly than those gas burners you run.

Ken
 
Dave,

You know you have helped me many times in the last 2-3 years, here at MS. You helped me understand things that were going on in my life when I first found MS. You helped me to understand others here.

What you are telling us in this post is absolutely true in my life as well. I have learned not to expect the memories to magically go away, but I have learned to deal with them. I am seeing a therapist for the first time in my life.

I hope you and your wife have a great life together, and I am glad to know that you are living life. All work and no play is pretty damn boring, even if it does keep your mind occupied.

Stay in touch, buddy!
 
Dave,

I want to tell you "Thank you" you have helped me on my recovery so many different times. I don't think I ever slowed down enough to tell you that. You have been a reg poster just assumed you would always be here. I am very happy for you for the place you are in right now. Please keep us posted on how your life is going or at least how your 4x4 is running.

((hugs for you and yours)))

James
 
Dave,

I've been somewhat MIA for most of the last year or so, but I'm glad I'm here to post to you now. You've been a fixture here since before I came around, and even if you don't put olives on pizza :D , I've always respected your opinions and the honesty in what you share.

I never did get to the Strawbs show up in Baltimore, but whenever I do, I'll have a drink for you!

Thanks yet again, all the best to you and yours in the "easy life," and please do remember to drop in now and again.

Joe
 
Dave,

Seems you were starting to fade into the background when I first came on board. I've always had an admiration and respect for your presence and experience here. Hope you continue to drop by from time to time.

Wherever your journey takes you, please know that you've touched our lives and we'll never be quite the same.

Lots of love,

John
 
Dave,

Like Joe, I've been out of site but am glad that I'm here to wish you well. I always felt that you were talking to just me when you posted. I'm sure the other guys thought the same; you explained your situation and counsel that well.
Well, as the sun sinks in the West, but wait, you're East of most of us...as the day ends, we'll picture you riding off into the sunset in that mud spattered "four by" of yours.
Take care buddy, thanks for all that you've done here and good luck for whatever the future brings.
We'll all remember you as the big bear who was there for all of us.

The warmest of farewells,

David, too
 
Dave,

your presence was missed here, so maybe you have more time to be back more often.

I too had porn on my computer, more than I could ever watch, so I dumped it and still have some, but nothing like what I had.

My life changed for the better to not have such stuff, and I can find more time to do what I want.

I wish you continued progress, you live in an idyllic place, I know because I have been there.
Lucky you, with your boys toys,

ste
 
David A big thanks for all the help you have been giving out these last years. I know at one time a lot of weight was placed on you too help keep this place going. I only wish we had grant money to pay you Modes,you worked so hard for our healing.

Thanks so much.

It is soon important that we have guys like you to lot up to and see that there is a better life ahead. I don't know how we do that but maybe you could start a Alumni group of those who have moved forward who could share with us one in awhile.


Tom
 
What you accomplished in your healing is of great encouragement to me. I agree with what you're saying about 'as good as it gets'. But where we are now is so much better that it's like being in a wheelchair for years and finally getting out. Who's going to complain about a limp? I'm very happy for you. And no matter where you go or what you do in life now, please know that you left an impression on a lot of guys out here with your honesty down to the end. The struggles you see fading slowly are the struggles so many of us have, and whether they go completely or not, you are whole. And that's what I want.

Go in peace, my brother. You helped many. Thank you so much.
 
Wow........... :o

I ain't going away, just saying where I am and why I post less. I guess MS is a part of me somehow, so there's too much to let go altogether. And I still believe MS is the best site of it's kind - period!

It's interesting that a lot of the guys who've replied so far are also long term users of MS that don't participate as much as they used to, or I just haven't noticed their name coming up on posts?

Which makes me wonder if they feel much the same way?

Thanks
Dave
 
Dave

I think I have told you face to face before but if I have not ...... its as simple as this:

Thanks for your support guidence and friendship.

Your mate (who is gradually getting there)

Kirk
"Lets grab this bull by the horns and swing it about abit"
 
Dave,

One thing I always respected and admired - both on the board here and in person - has been your common-sense approach and absolute integrity. It's been more of an inspiration than you will ever know. It shows the rest of us that it really can be done. Thanks.

Much love,
Larry
 
Hi Dave,
It's been a good number of months since I have visited or written here. I am in much the same situation as you describe, so I totally relate to what you're saying. This summer has been spent busy with work and hauling kids on water skis behind the boat we bought this past spring. Now hockey season is in full swing and we are travelling again to different tournaments. My Mom is very ill and has been hospitalized. I don't think she'll be coming home, she's 89. Life goes on, not perfect but I'm feeling good and haven't forgotten the days when I didn't feel so great and MS was here for me. Take care all.
Andrew
 
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