Guys, I agree with you both, and I was pissed that these two web pages were having problems again. I just don't understand why somebody in the home office or where ever the main computer is that they do not tell us "they are having a problem, working on it, and the pages will soon be back." All of us have had so much shit thrown at us as abuse survivors, we don't need more in this day, when we are trying to get it straight. If these web pages weren't enough, I got a letter from social security asking me if I was still dissabled!! The term they want info about was July 1999 to present. So I went to all my copies of dr, clinic visits, and hospital wisits and for those two (2) years the list totaled seventy (70) so I guess I'm still dissabled, beging a survivor of being hit by a NYC subway train!! As I told my counselor yesterday by e-mail, I just don't know what the hell to think, do, or continue. With two (2) times of no web pages in less than a month, maybe somebody in the home offices of NOMSV will get our message.!!The first thing that comes to my mind is lets try, and try again, whatever stage we are in. thanks for everybody listening. bosishere