Intimacy with a MS

Intimacy with a MS

Stephania_K

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My husband was abused for a time period in his adolecence by a family member. That is all I know. He told me this a few years ago before we got married and has never given me any more details nor does he want to seek counseling.

The problem cropped up a few months after we were married. He does not let me touch him when we are intimate. I mean, I can touch him anywhere on his body but there and he gets pretty upset if I insist. Now, he has no problem and actually loves and insists on exploring my body, but if I try it on him, it is a big no, no. He also says that he does not like it if I try to initiate sex. I feel so frustrated and he does not even want to talk about it. I keep asking why? and his story changes every time. What do I do? Just leave our sex life one-sided?

Thanks.
 
Hi Stephania,

My boyfriend and I have this problem too:
He also says that he does not like it if I try to initiate sex. I feel so frustrated and he does not even want to talk about it. I keep asking why? and his story changes every time.
For us it is because my boyfriend needs to be in control of what is going on in the bedroom. (Annoyingly enough, at the same time he is afraid to TAKE control or ask for what he needs... so we end up playing these silent guessing games... but that's another post.)

It is a fragile kind of control and it takes a long time to have confidence in it-- it happens little by little.

Being VERY consistent about respecting his needs has helped him-- knowing that if he wants to stop I will stop right away. I also know that there are times when he won't want to talk about intimate things or be sexual at all and I respect that. When we do talk I make sure to tell him that I do like and appreciate what we have together-- I know there are times it is not easy for him to talk about it-- I know he's making the effort in this area because he loves me.

The "whys" are tough sometimes, maybe it would help if you could learn some of the "whats"-- what can I do to help you feel comfortable, what would be a good time to bring this up to you, etc.?

Welcome to MS. There is a lot to learn here.

SAR
 
Do 'we' want control or not?

I can't start sex because I feel like an abuser.

I like the idea of my wife initiating sex when we're talking about it rationally, and not in a sexual situation. But if she does I feel abused.

Perhaps we should do it by appointment? :rolleyes:

It's a horrible situation, and takes complete and open discussion and honesty to get over this situation. And that's not easy, trust me, we're trying it.

Dave :(
 
Lloydy,
You have described exactally what I have always felt my husband must feel like.
The one thing I always hoped, or wondered while we have been trying to work thru this is:
Is there a way, in your mind.....to somehow separate entirely the scenario with the one you love from the SA. I am having trouble finding the words, and I wish I had a professional opinion/help on this. Almost like a visual exercise to completely separate the two somehow because one is an act of love and the other is not even close. Find a way to completely take them out of the same catagory in your mind.
They are two completely different things....as different as the people involved.
I wish I could find a better way to describe what I am trying to say.
 
Your descriptions just fine, it tells the heartbreaking 'reality' that many abused men find themselves in.

Last week in our group therapy session we started talking about our sex lives - "what sex lives?" was the general concensus.

All of us there were married or in a heterosexual relationship, and all of us rarely had sex with our partners.
The sad fact was that we all admitted masturbation was safer. It relieved us of emotional involvement, and physical contact but gave us the release from overpowering sexual feelings that we need.

We all loved our partners deeply, and would not betray them with someone else. None of us found our partners so unattractive that we considered that was the problem. We all kissed, held hands and hugged our partners.
So why can't we go that extra step and make love to our partners?

For me it's flashbacks and fantasies.
Making love gives me flashbacks to my abuse, which affects my 'performance' and I go limp. So to counteract that I start to fantasize, and my regular fantasy was ( still is to a degree ) performing bj's on other men.
This worked for many years, but I fell into the behaviour of trying, and succeeding, to make my fantasy true. And I have to stress that not every man will go down this route, but I did.

Acting out sexually with other men wasn't the ultimate sexual experience I had made it out to be in my fantasy, it was actually the opposite; a degrading and un-satisfying experience.
So that fantasy, although it still surfaces doesn't work anymore. So I still can't perform.

Why not change my fantasy? Well yes, I try to do that. I don't have any problem intellectually with using fantasy, the majority of people do it.
But I know where my last fantasy led me, and I can't risk that again. Even though I am emotionally stronger and rationally I 'know' that I won't allow any fantasy to take me over and become a reality again. But sub-conciously I think it's possible.

So, if I fantasize about the woman at work that fancies me ( strange, but true ;) ) then any fantasy about her always contains a script about me getting caught with her. So that fantasy doesn't work either.

This whole scenario then creates a climate of fear, the fear that any attempt to make love is doomed before it begins. So masturbation is the easy option.

I'm NOT saying your husband has the same experience; I relate my experience to show how complicated a seemingly simple problem can become for us. I've had therapy for just over 5 years, and only now am I accepting that how I relate to making love to my wife of thirty years needs some serious work on my part, probably with a psycho-sexual therapist.

Some men are lucky, they can make love to their partners. But I would hazard a guess that the majority of us have problems in this department.
Deep, and difficult to shift problems. The sad part is that it affects our partners, my wife still doesn't know what to do with me. If she initiates sex, will I reject her? will I fail? Neither case will make either of us feel better, so now neither of us try. It's just easier that way.

I haven't said much to cheer you up have I?
But its not all doom and gloom, there are ways to overcome this problem, but they take open and honest discussion, hard work and usually professional help. I've done the first two, the third option has to start soon.

Dave
 
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