Intelligence vs emotion

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A theme I continue to see here on the forum, and in the chat room seems universally difficult to overcome. We, all of us, have a difficult time taking our own advice.

We are so supportive of each other here. We welcome, validate, share our hopes & struggles. I see it every day, in every post, we tell each other, It not your fault, You can CAN heal, we care. We offer tons of suggestions, compassion, prayers, tenderness. When we are supporting one another, we believe what were saying. We have learned what SA is. Weve read the books, been to counseling, read of the life experiences of others. Our intelligence allows us to understand and give feedback to others. But, do we believe it, ourselves? Do we FEEL it? For example; Understanding that we were helpless, and that it wasnt our fault can make sense, But believing it in our heart and soul proves to be another matter.
I myself am guilty of this. I can say to someone, Dont despair, things will get better but I wonder it myself. I become depressed, I lose hope, I wonder where the end of this struggle will be.

My mind and heart disagree at times on what the truth really is. Perhaps that is one of our greatest challenges.

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[Lloydy]

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I was going to plead "guilty" to this charge as well.

I'm definately someone who gets something out of helping others, and I'm not that bothered about the 'give and take' ratio. If I get less than I put in then so what ? at least I get something. And when I get nothing then it's time to go. As it happens I get a great deal from this site and the charity Axis where I help out. I also serve ont the committee of our Off-Road Club, and it's the same there, put something in - get something out.

I often feel that I don't do as I say, and that's immensly frustrating, but I hope that it gets less each time, I think it does. Some of the advice we give has to rub off on ourselves.
Sometimes I feel like a prize bullshitter, I talk about something like OCD and here I am sat here at 12-40 !!

But I don't feel guilty as such, annoyed ? yes, determined to make something happen ? certainly.

Like go to bed, good night folks

Dave

 

[Wuamei]

Yeah I'm guilty as charged to.

But it's a prison I intend to work my way out of...

...tho I'll probably have to stay on parole!

Victor

 

[Mike Church]

Me too. Rationally we all know what is good and right. Do I believe it. Most definetely!!! But you see I have that electric shunt in my brain that veers me away from the truth. Why you might say! Well I used it so often that the slip into it is very easy and well greased by me. It is also comfortable. I mean "What the F**k. It worked for so long".
God what a crock of moose shit that is .(for you southern folk-a moose is kind of like a really big possum with antlers)We are all, all of us, comfortable with the past. It is like a warm Its all their fault blanket. Yeh I deserve every rotten thing that happens to me. And if I can get what I deserve I will seek ways to obtain it. Oh the GODDAMNED ISANITY OF IT ALL.
As Wuamei says it is a prison and we are on parole. I dont think of it as parole but more a little digging here and a little diging there and pretty soom the whole shitty things ceases to exist. I think that we all also have to remember that we tend to care giving. I have done it cause then I can say to myself "There he is on the right road that I do not belong on cause I am a piece of moose shit" Everyone else deserves to heal but ME. Oh shit I am gonna bawl again.

 

[Cement]

guilty...of contradiction and confusion.
Of faltering and flailing about.
Of trying to get better while I do not feel better.
Of talking, without acting.

I am posting in the poetry section a possible trigger, but I think very powerful group of poems. I hope people will check them out.

James

 

[Ethan_B]

yes, guilty too.

But what else can you do?

Say that it probably never goes away? it will continue to haunt you, the best you can hope for is to give it a place of its own?

all true, but not someone new to this dealing with it, really needs to hear.
People must have hope, and if telling these things help, why not?

I must admit, I am weary at times and long for a simple but truthfull reply, but oftimes I cannot bring myself to do so, how can you tell to somebody in pain and discomfort, that the pain will most likely never will go away completely?

it is too much for many to bear, and will at times remove the last glimps of hope, possibly driving people to dispair,

but, yes, guilty

I do however mean it, when I say that someone will get better, time heals and so does experience in a way. its a matter of how you define better I suppose.

best regards,

Ethan

 

I'm guilty to, but along time ago I read "The Power of Positive Thinking" and message that I got and applied was just keep telling myself something, and sooner or later (some things were sooner and some later)I would believe it. And thankfully, it worked.

By the way, I have been trying to change the color of the sky for years. I believe it will be green soon!

 

[Wuamei]

By the way, I have been trying to change the color of the sky for years. I believe it will be green soon!

OK WillP I'll positive think with you on that one; green is my favorite color!

Victor

 

[MrEdd]

By the way, I have been trying to change the color of the sky for years. I believe it will be green soon!

Sorry. It will be Purple with Pastel blue clouds.

 

[moo2]

Everybody needs hope to reduce the amount of pain especialy when the first flashbacks happen. The pain does reduce or increase when flashbacks or uncontrolled feelings happen, but when the Lord knows you can handle [only with a support group] more He will give you more flashbacks. You will never be able to handle any of the horrid flashbacks or feelings without support that it will get better. Without knowing what is NORMAL we would always over-react including spouses. I would not want to be supporting my husband without even knowing this internet site. Anybody would be going through a worse time if it were not for the support system.

We all do not take our own advice. That is very normal. We would have to pick up our feet + do something. Even normal people to improve themselves have to talk or get out of the house + meet people or they will be depressed. Believe me, I suffered with very severe depression + did not clean house. I think I knew that I had to clean house, but I used my severe unhappiness as an excuse. Habits are real hard to break.
I think I have written enough.
WITH MUCH LOVE,
Kim

 

[Lloydy]

We all do not take our own advice. That is very normal. We would have to pick up our feet + do something.

GUILTY.
It's just so tempting to sit back, but I guess 'normal' people do it as well. And if I'm right then maybe I shouldchange my plea ?

Dave