I was wondering...

I was wondering...

BlueSkies

Registrant
How many partners of male survivors have sought therapy for themselves since learning of the abuse of their loved one? Does anyone recommend it or feel it helped or is necessary?

I was just thinking that some of you posted that you were very careful in how you displayed your emotions when you learned of the abuse, so as to not show weakness or an inability to handle the information you were priviledged to receive. Have you then found a healthy outlet to express rage, anger, sadness, frustration, etc., over the knowledge you now have and day to day life that followed?

Blue
 
Hi Blue,

I think you were referring to my post today.

I actually came from a "toxic" family, suffered no sexual abuse myself but I did receive physical and emotional abuse.

Our family (all 4 kids and both parents) went into counselling in 1974. I was 6 years old.

We had extensive counselling for all family members at a time when (you were still labelled crazy or weak if you received help).

I gained a lot of experience and knowledge during the two years that we received treatment, albeit, I was very young and did not understand all the words being used, but I being a middle (3rd) child understood precisely - what body language and emotional response was. I also inherently knew the details of our toxic life at home - and that we would only talk about it in the presence of the counselor.

As I grew up I continued to read self help books purely out of curiosity and specifically to try and understand people and relationship dynamics, interpersonal communication etc.

As an adult between ages 21 and 30 I had what I called "tune-up" counselling. When I was dealing with stressful issues in life - I would see a therapist for a short amount of time to help me get over a bump and bring new perspective to what I was trying to figure out at that time.

In having these professional experiences over and throughout my life I have gained enough perspective into ego motivation, value and belief systems which dictate the motivations in people, that I feel I don't need it (counselling)at the present time- in dealing with my mate. I worry that someday I may need to - but until that day arrives - I feel I am cheating myself out of an opportunity to understand and attempt to connect on a very personal level with my mate - who feels presently that he can only talk to me about it.

I do not take his trust lightly and so that is why I am careful about how I express my feelings toward his mother in his presence about how she victimized him.

As a victim of abuse he has unpredictable boundaries - that a person who had not been through the exact experience cannot see. I am just careful that I don't inadvertantly step all over those boundaries or even attempt to move the line until I have identified it and figured out why it's there to begin with.

He was severely victimized (physicallly tortured and repeatedly molested) I think that his boundaries are important for his safety and sanity right now, and so I allow him his saftey zone, until I sense he is ready to move the line for me - I need him to give me that invitation first.

I have been patiently at his side utilizing these techniques and have made extreme efforts to listen and understand what he silently tells me that he needs to purge the abuse.

I also know that there may come a time when I can do no more for him, and when that happens I will ask him if he is ready.

Until then I just prefer to allow him his own pace.

He has not had his full fledged panic attacks since he finally opened up to me about all of it, which was approximately 14 months ago or a little longer. He still has episodes of depression comingled with extreme insecurity that last about 24 to 48 hours, but the all out fetal position sweats for 9 hours at a time and depression that lasts for days on end - stopped when he found a understanding and patient outlet in me.

I realize the tendency toward dependency on me, and we talk openly about all of the isses that could derail his healing. We are aware that we walk on sacred ground at the moment.

I hope this explains a little more ...

Holly :)
 
Blue Skies,

I have been in IC for about a yr. and I feel it has helped me immensely. I was having a very difficult time with my anger with the molestor, anger with my H because of his affair and also I needed help with how to deal with the flashbacks, body memories, nightmare, panic attacks that my H was having. I needed someone to help me understand that I couldn't fix this but there were things I could do to help him work through this. I am working on my own self esteem, self worth and learning to do things for myself. I think that has helped me be a better partner and wife.

My H's therapist is the one that suggested that I get some counselling also so that I would have some support.

Take care
darp
 
BlueSkies,

I don't know if I was trying not to show weakness or inability by keeping my emotions to myself. I think that I was picking up on my boyfriend's fear and shame, and vulnernability. When someone is so visibly afraid and ashamed, my first instinct is to reassure that person and say, "You have nothing to be afraid of now, you have nothing to be ashamed of," and I guess at the time that instinct took precedence over the other instinct--to be horrified and angry when someone tells you about a terrible thing that's happened to them.

He did express fear that I would be angry, disgusted, horrified--AT him-- of course I was and am angry and disgusted about the abuse and some other things as well, but none of it AT him. Still, any kind of disgust or anger coming from me was such a trigger for him that it didn't seem right to bring it up to him.

Professional counseling wasn't an option for me at the time of my boyfriend's disclosure but I've spent some time in counseling and I do think that I "fell back" on some of it during that time. Also there were people I could speak to about some of the other major stressors in my life (school, kids), and feeling the release of that other stress was probably what kept me from really wanting therapy. (I'm sure a few of my professors suspected that there was more going on than I was talking about, but none of them pushed it.)

I absolutely think that if any partner feels the need for therapy as a result of the stress of supporting a survivor, that he or she should get that help without having to feel strange about getting help for "someone else's" problems. And I think that the fewer other outlets the partner has to vent their stress, the greater that need is. Certainly a big part of this stress is keeping some of the partner's own sadness and anger away from the survivor-- survivors go through enough just telling a partner about their abuse without then having to feel responsible for or worried about their partner's emotions.

I guess I made use of some healthy outlets I'd had to begin with--reading, exercise, my work, music-- also I realized that I didn't know anything about the effects or the treatment of CSA, so I did some research, just trying to get an objective, big-picture idea of what was out there. I am someone who feels safer with all the facts and just seeing that there WERE facts, books, studies, was comforting to me. My research also brought me to this site which has been an incredible help.

This next method might not be for everyone but--I took advantage of the anonymity of public transportation-- up until a few months ago I had an hour and a half bus commute, and I spent a lot of those trips home crying on the bus. It was a safe way to get out my emotions away from my kids and boyfriend and I didn't have to tell anyone what was wrong.

SAR
 
Yes !!
I am lucky to have opportunities to be alone - I have cried silently. I cry for him and the torment he is under. I cry because I know "it" can't be fixed. And, acceptance of what happened to him and how he will come to accept it is what will have to take place for his self worth to change.

Some times I wonder should I get my own counselling. Probably. Maybe. All I know is right now at this moment - I'm doing ok.

HG
 
Hi - I have been going to my own T because I have my own abuse issues. However, I did go to a 6 week session for partners of survivors just to get a handle on the issues related to that. I found the therapy for that very beneficial not only in my relationship but it helped me better define "healthy boundaries" in all aspects of my life - work, home, family - which were of major benefit. Also being with a survivor causes a lot of triggers, I needed to better learn how to manage through those as I was being triggered more often due to his SA issues.

P
 
Thank you for all the responses everyone.

I noticed a common thread. Whether it be through therapy or drawing on our own past experience or sitting down and doing some solid research on the matter, every single partner of a male survivor who responded to this thread made sure to educate themselves as to the best possible way to be of assistance and to be understanding.

I think for myself it was very much trial and error. I couldn't help but cry when my husband would talk about his abuse. I soon learned that as soon as he would see me cry, he would equate it with hurting me and clam right up.

I fully supported him when he went to therapy and by sitting in on a few sessions and getting some therapy of my own, I was able to see that the ways I thought would be helpful really weren't. I'm really grateful for what I've learned along the way. It's really helped me to understand and communicate better and also to be a better listener.

Thanks again.

Blue
 
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