i feel awful *TRIGGER*

i feel awful *TRIGGER*

phoster

Registrant
i am feeling awful, so be sure you are safe and strong before reading this

I revisited the first time I was molested through memory regression yesterday. At times, I was little Jeff, watching things as they happened, and at other points it was like watching it on TV. In horror, I relived lying in the grass with Mat, as he said he knew a game we could play. Then he relented and said he couldnt because it was a game for big-boys. I begged him, and promised not to tell. He warned little Jeff that he would get in trouble if anyone ever found out. Mat said we wouldnt be allowed to play together if I ever told anyone. He said he would get in a lot of trouble.

As adult Jeff watched, I was angry. I was angry with the little boy for being so stupid. I was angry with my parents for not having taught him any better. The attack was so transparent, if I hadnt been totally ignorant, I would have seen it. I try to remind myself of how small I was, but all I can feel is how stupid I was. I know all the things people will say about how it wasnt my fault, and how I was only a kid. I know all of that, but I still feel so f-ing stupid.

My wife threw fuel on that fire last night. No, she didnt know she was, but she did. I am barely functional at times. My memory really sucks. I faxed some important papers. I remember it as being a couple weeks ago, and she says it is last Thursday. She says I faxed my last pay stub, and I dont think I did. Heck, I dont even remember taking the damn check out of the envelope. How can I argue with her? How can I not feel even more of an idiot? I cant trust my own mind and body any more. When she kept correcting me, I felt unheard. I felt small. I felt like that little boy standing in front of my father as he called me stupid and lazy. As she told me how forgetful I am, I felt like all of that and more. I cant even focus to work today. I feel awful.

Naturally, that got me doubting everything and everyone. I feel less than human. I am not a man. I am something else. All I want to label myself is sick, a pervert, a monster, an idiot, a fool.

When I walked out of therapy yesterday, I was numb. I had just witnessed something awful. It was much more than just telling the facts. I was there all over again. I wish I could have thought more about Mat, but all I did was get pissed that I had been so stupid. Why do I do this to myself? Instead of thinking about how awful he was, I always turn it inward.

I wont even go into sex. I want all this horrible stuff. I feel sick for wanting it. I know it is the abuse, but it goes deeper than logic. I feel sick because even knowing the truth, I still want it. I want to be raped. It is what I deserve. I want to watch my wife f a real man, because I am not one, and because I deserve to be humiliated as someone else takes her. I fantasize, no, I want her to trade me to her unfulfilled friends like a sex toy. I want to be with an animal, because I feel like an animal. I certainly am not human.
With all these feelings stirred up, I try to remind myself that these are what I feel deep inside. I try to remind myself I need to go there and express them. What makes it so hard is that I feel like I keep going backward. Every time I think I have repaired my esteem, and am getting out, I tumble back into the pit. I feel like all I have learned about myself through recovery means nothing. I feel powerless, like I will never escape any of this. I feel life is pointless, and I am beyond redemption.

At first, after I went back and intervened, I felt good. I left the office numb and disjointed. It was almost like floating through my day, like I never came out of the trance. I felt strangely at peace, and then the blackness started moving in. By the time I snipped at my wife, I was a mess. I have barely slept. I will go home and say I am sorry. Once more, I will be week and spineless. I will be the little boy going to mommy. She deserves a husband, but got a confused little boy.

I could feel my fear as I stood in the bushes with Mat. I could feel the horror all over again as we undressed. Now that I know what true fear feels like, I feel it all over my life. I fear I will never be happy. I fear I will never be fulfilled by any relationship. I fear my marriage wont make it. I fear I chose my wife to be a mother instead of a spouse. I am just plain afraid. I cant even list all my fears they are so many. I dont want to work, I dont want to go home, I dont want to say Im sorry. I dont want to suffer another humiliation in the face of a lifetime of it. I dont want to be around people. I want to be alone. I want to wallow and cry. I want to feel sorry for myself. all relationships and family mean to me is feeling ashamed and stupid. when it all washes out, it isnt joy and love I feel, it is stupid and worthless I feel.
 
Jeff,

Ah, Jeff..... :(

I'm sorry for everything you went through. I'm sorry that Little Jeff had to endure that. I'm sorry you feel so cheap and worthless and degraded. I'm sorry.

About being worthless. You're not, you know. You had a terrible thing happen to you. It sucks, Jeff. It will ALWAYS suck. But that doesn't mean that you are a worthless person deserving of such things. You are meant for greater things, Jeff. You are meant to be happy. You DESERVE to be happy. And, you know what? You'll BE happy again. I know it.

I don't know if you realize right now just how strong and fine a man you are. To come through the crap you did and remain a decent, caring person, well, Jeff, that speaks volumes.

You, my friend, are the one to watch.

I'm so sorry you feel the way you do, but remember, it will pass. It's the lies these @$$holes give us, deal with us, telling you all over again. They're wrong, Jeff, and YOU are right. You are a better person, Jeff. You are a GREAT person.

I treasure you, bro.

Peace and love.

Scot
 
Jeff:

I hear you man. Sometimes i don't even know what day of the week it is. The simple things are not so simple anymore. I find I need to write everything down now or I forget what I've done or what I am suppose to do.

Hang in there,Hopefully it will past soon. Take time for yourself and take care of yourself.
Gus
 
You have great courage (though I know it may not feel like it right now) to survive in the face of all the things you are dealing with.

What I try to remind myself of is that I am made up of many parts. Two that I most often deal with are the child-part who remembers/feels still what happened in the past. But I have to remind my self of the fact that nothing can be changed about the past.

What can be changed is another part, the judging part, the part that calls me stupid for not escaping, stupid and not a man for not being able to deal with things better today. That part, that voice just tears me down and leaves me depressed and too often contemplating s--cide.

I hate that I am still turned on by fantasies that mirror what happened to me with those boys, also in the bushes, in the dirt, being used, threatened. Even the memory of the fear in the context of a fantasy is a turn-on. I feel guilty and shamed by that.

I don't know what to do with those negative feelings because I cannot yet get past the idea that they are accurate and that I deserve them and worse.

I am sorry that you leave therapy not feeling better about things. I couldn't do that. The last thing I want to do is re-live past experiences. The little concious memories I have, the body memories, the sudden and scanty flashbacks are more than enough for me and even those, I know, do me no good at all.

Its true that sometimes I have craved knowing whole stories complete with details. I feel that that would justify things somehow, make it easier to tell people why I do not do well sometimes, have a hard time in the present.

But really I do not want the pain. I want not to deal with the past as if it could be captured and so by those means controlled. I can listen to my child part but I cannot change what happened to him. I can only change the way I feel about him today and so change the way I feel about a whole and complete me today.

I am thinking of you buddy. I want you to find ways to protect yourself so that you are not so overwhelmed. That is the big challenge. Some days I am better at it than others. I hope you are better at feeling better some days, too.

Brett
 
Hey Phos... been there, done that. I know how scary regression can be. I have had the best, most liberating sessions and have been to the depths of hell with them. The important thing to hold in your mind is that despite how frightening the images are and how much resistance there is to returning and having to feel the original feelings all over again, it is precisely revisiting these feelings that will help heal in the long-term. This is my experience with regression hypnosis. Even if I have been rocked by re-seeing myself as a child, re-feeling what I felt as a child, and bringing in the adult self to gain perspective and compassion for the child, I have always a few days later felt better as though something had organically healed inside me just from feelings these things that I had been shut off from feeling when they originally happened.

As for the feelings of worthlessness... been there too. Everything you said in this post I could identify with. PLEASE PM me if you need to. Anything you need to get through this, let us know.

-Sean
 
thanks everyone. as the day has passed, i have been talking to the guys i know well here, and it has helped. i am doing better. far from back to a level plain, but better. your support helps more than you know.

jeff
 
Jeff - you probably realise by now that I went through a very long period of self loathing before I spoke of my abuse!

So many people have told me that I was not to blame (yourself included) that I now 99% believe it(most days). Please have that belief in yourself - we are worthy people here!

Best wishes ..Rik
 
Jeff,

I relate to everything you said, too, seriously. What you described feeling with your wife, that's how I felt around my last wife. My marriage didn't last. But I did. And the feeling of being totally frayed, fragmented--man, zoning in and out of these fucking horrible memories and desires to be used again--wow! It is healing to me just to know that someone else feels this, because I sure as hell don't get much understanding from most other people.

Life does get better, in the sense that, as we integrate, we slowly learn to manage reality, the wider reality of who we are.

You NEVER deserved what happened to you. What I see you doing is something I am SOOO familiar with, which is beating the hell out of yourself so that you won't feel anything else but that familiar shame and self-loathing. It is what we did as children to make sense out of the horrors we experienced.

But it was never our fault. Not mine, not yours. We deserved love, and we got abused. Nobody was looking out for us to see that it didn't happen, nobody was there for us afterward. It's totally fucked up. So many of us who have felt the same thing have committed suicide, but we don't have to do that. We have each other, on this support group.

My heart goes out to you.

Jeff
 
phoster,

To start out; you are not stupid, shameful and worthless. But, you are worthy of recieving and feeling love and joy.

I am truely sorry the s**t Little Jeff had to endure. The s**t Mat laid on you. It wasn't pleasant the frist time, nor was it seeing it again.

Don't be angry with the child within you. He was maniplated. He was young and did not know any better. He got to play a big boy's game, a dream of most little kids. In retrospect, you say you know see it's transparency - do you honestly thing that Little Jeff should have? That is a unrealalist expectation. Comfort that injured and frightened Little Jeff.

Today you are a brave Jeff. Not buying into this fear, but fighting it off, the best you can. It is a hard long battle, but you have it at bay.

I recently went through a bout of having peanut butter inside of my skull instead of brains. So many stupid mistakes in a very short period. Everybody knows that February is followed by April, oops. I opened a set of bids today, and forgot to have the contractor cut down the trees before digging the hole under them, oops again. And why did they put the "get voice mail" button next to the "erase voice mail" button, triple oops.

No need to beat yourself up over this. Nobody is perfect, not even me. :D The blame lies solely on Mat, not yourself. Let those feelings out.

Why do I do this to myself? Instead of thinking about how awful he was, I always turn it inward.
Isn't that what he taught you to think, to hide his wrong doings.

Your wife does deserve a husband, and guess what - you're her choice. Because you are deserving and worthy. Granted you are going through some problems right now, but I don't believe that you are totally a little boy. You will be back, better than before.

Don't feel afraid to cry. Don't hesitate to post and rant.

Take care,
Bill
 
Jeff,

I was not able to fully read all your post. But I am very sorry, of how horrible it was to have to relive all that. You were not at all stupid. Children, that is a right of children, the right to innocence, and to be naive of things of the world, of sexual behaviors and such. Those rights are what was taken from us, and continue to affect our minds, our moods and emotions.

Please try to be gentle with your thoughts and feelings of yourself. You are a good man, you were a good boy. What was done is not your fault. I can appreciate some how you feel of not remembering things and such. I am not even myself at times, and remember nothing of those times. I have faith it gets better, for all of us. I wish you well.

leosha
 
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