I Am Choking with Tears, but Good Tears

I Am Choking with Tears, but Good Tears

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I received today an invitation to an event at my Diocese where the abuse took place. It is in November and will be held at a local Catholic university in Ct. It is a joint gathering sponsored by survivors in the Diocese and the Diocese. The bishop will lead in prayer for the survivors and survivors will share their journey to heal. I am emotional because after the past several months and having resolution I somehow thought maybe the Diocese would say next and I would be forgotten. I have not and it warms my heart to know they truly still stand behind me and know the damage that was done.

I am going to try to make the event because I think meeting other survivors within the Diocese other than those who shared the unfortunate bond with the abuser will further strengthen my healing. The priest who was instrumental in my contacting the Diocese in my childhood parish has been invited. It would be wonderful to see him again and let him see I am doing alright--he helped me get to the root of healing. I do not know why this invite has me choking on tears but it does. I guess going home this time feeling stronger, vindicated and supported in more ways than I ever expected by my Diocese is somewhat overwhelming to me.

Kevin
 
I am happy for you, Kevin. I hope you are able to attend. It will most likely be a strengthening experience for you and an encouragement to others.
Lee
 
(((Kevin)))

I'm really happy for you. Your tears are indeed tears of solace and joy to continue to heal. It sounds like the diocese is giving a safe space those who were harmed to continue to heal and at the same time affirmed their commitment to victims. Thanks for sharing your good news and my thoughts and prayers will be with you in your journey.

Elad
 
((((Kevin))))

I will be thinking of you in wishing you strength and grace.
Your friend
Zoo-Brian
 
Kevin that is great news. Your Diocese sounds much more attuned than others. I hope your family apologizes for the lies they told of your abuse and saying it was not real. Shame on them. If they are like my family and Mama's family I am sorry but you probably will not hear those words. Stupidity will not allow them to admit they were wrong or not perfect.

Your Diocese gave you what you needed. I hope you are able to attend but knowing they are reaching out to you has to give you comfort. You deserve to be accepted for the CSA you lived. Take care of yourself and it seems you are light years ahead of me in this healing.

Paul
 
Kevin.

So glad they are starting down the road to help survivors after all you have been through. You deserve to heal more and progress further down this road. I smile when I read your successes. You deserve more happiness. Thank you for being you. You have helped many here including me.

Thank you my treasured friend.
 
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@Kevin that is wonderful. I know how much you've struggled with the idea that nobody in your Diocese or indeed in the church gave a dam about abuse survivers and were too busy trying to protect their own interests to care about victims.

This sounds like not only an amazing victory for you, but a real step forward in the way the sort of thing you suffered is recognized and dealt with.

Congratulations, I'm extremely happy for you.

Luke.
 
Kevin - So glad to know you are getting to attend this meeting. How powerful for the community and how empowering it is for you. We'll all be there with you in spirit anyway - it's 3,000 miles for me to come there - and we will applaud your strength. Stand tall as a man, not the defeated little boy anymore. Let them know what this has done, and thank the priest who walked with you through all of this. They're not all evil. They didn't all perpetrate abuse - but the ones who did besmirched the name of the Church - any church, really, since it wasn't only the Roman Catholic church where these things happened. So, be strong, be courageous (I know you know how to be those things but I still had to say them!).
 
Wonderful news, Kevin!! I hope you do go. Cheers to your diocese for their efforts to engage victims of clergy abuse. Nice.
 
Ceremony, Lee, Elad1, zookeeper, WG, Paul, Dark Empathy, WS, motmcd

Thank you for the support and kind words. This journey was not anything I could anticipate or have expected. It had many bumps and hurdles that needed to be jumped. I had days of good and days of despair. I had days where life was grand and then days where life almost extinguished from my soul.

Like everyone here, I faced the difficulties I lived with for a lifetime, my denial of something so real and cruel that robbed me of what no child should lose, my spirit, my soul, my future, my hopes and dreams and my love of myself. I suffered emotional, psychological and physical damage from the abuse. I did not know the cause, or maybe I did and refused to admit. Because to admit or have accepted the cause would have required me to accept the abuse, the abuser and more importantly the child within, who harbored the abuse. This child part at least in my fragmented mind was not me.

I have come a long way and the past few months have enriched my life, given validation to my life and more importantly resolution to something that happened to me by someone I was to trust and respect, the parish priest. I traveled with the Diocese since mid 2013. It was my first face to face meeting to tell of what had been done and no knowing if they would be there for me. Not quite sure if my emotions were right, so I treaded lightly. One thing I did know from that first meeting the words and facts expressed by the Diocese, my abuser was known to them. He was my demon and I dared not to share his name.

I had shared prior to this meeting my fate with the parish priest so I could have the courage or ability to enter the church where this all began to bury my mother. That priest set the wheels into motion for resolution. It may have taken three long years with much wear and tear on my mind and body. In the end it brought me to a place of peace and acceptance, a place of support from an institution who I believed would have turned as I confronted but they did not. I met people who have loved and supported me on this journey. I had to overcome the debilitation and destruction caused to me by those I gave much and understand the hurt that was caused to them. CSA is hard not only on the survivor but those around them.

I was able to speak with my friend about these events. My emotions took the best of me. It was in a good way, not from a place of pain but rather one of resolution and satisfaction. She said it was important to me to have this final validation because it was not mandated or put into place to appease or make something go away, but rather a gesture of kindness and compassion, a recognition of the Church’s responsibility of what happened to me.

She also helped me to understand I am facing the realities of those who have spread tales and lies to cover their tracks, to forego the pain or acceptance of their complicity in my unraveling and downfall that began almost 20 years ago with the onset of syncope. They created feelings of abandonment, feelings of loss, feelings of inadequacies within me and sadly some of these emotions in the children. They perpetuated the stories of my unraveling from denial of the abuse and dissociation, to the acts and words that propelled me into the states of dissociation and flashbacks. The stories have traveled far and wide, east and west coasts of the US, Ireland and recently heard them from a relative in England that I lost contact with many years ago. I realized their words and stories had a profound negative impact on my healing. They became destructive and pushed me the edge. I feared what others thought, but no longer do I have this fear, I have validation, I have the truth on so many levels.

Do I expect an apology and acknowledgement of their words and actions? No I do not expect. There is a saying and sadly it may apply here, thick as Mick and twice as thick. Meaning they are dense, know all, they cannot be wrong, and their world is the only sane and perfect one. Sadly, many are destroyed and held back by that world. I may have been this way but through healing and meeting many people, learning their frailties, their hurts and damages I find myself more empathic toward people and truly believe I cannot judge anyone until I walk in their shoes.

My friend was kind to those she spoke of, acknowledging we are all products of our childhood and parents do the best they can. Parents learn from their parents. She said a parent should never be so consumed to have a child’s love that the boundaries are crossed and the other parent ignored, shamed. bullied or attacked. A parent pushed from the table over and over is a parent who has been bullied. She said the lies and denials of my abuse should never have occurred to hide a child’s abuse of a parent, yes she said the spitting, the locking a person in the room, vandalizing and destroying personal porperty and invading a parent’s privacy, the abandoning, the verbal onslaughts is abuse, or to deny a parent’s absence from the lives of the children impacted their social and emotional development. The latter she said was enabling the former to occur.


I know she is right. I have the validation, I have the support and I have the recognition of the realities of the CSA. They only have their imagination and desire to bury the truth to protect themselves. I have the Diocese’s validation and outreach. The medical professionals now understand the cause of the syncope, as well as the dissociation, is rooted in the CSA. They have medical advice from those who know little of trauma or how the mind works. One day I hope they look at their lives and face it honestly and openly. If not, their lives will never be full. I am only coming into my life now and no one will push me back as I was for so many years.

I do hope to be able to attend the event. I was told I could bring a supporter and if my friend was here she would gladly go with me. However, I am not afraid to go alone for I will be amongst other brave and heroic people who are or have overcome the past of clergy sexual abuse. If they have support with them, I know these supporters will embrace all survivors. I look to meet with the Bishop and accept his heartfelt sorrow for what happened. The Diocese has offered this meeting several times but I chose not to participate.

I believe I am coming full circle. Maybe I am blessed to have the institution stand behind me so I can, maybe never 100%, complete my healing. I now know the tales and denials of my abuse by others have no hold over me today as they once did. Maybe the emotions come from that sense of freedom from the abuse, the abuser and from those who have attempted to destroy me without ever opening their minds to the realities of CSA.

I guess this invitation is what the doctor ordered to bring me the peace and give me the life that was taken so many years ago.

Thank you

Kevin
 
Ceremony, Lee, Elad1, zookeeper, WG, Paul, Dark Empathy, WS, motmcd

Thank you for the support and kind words. This journey was not anything I could anticipate or have expected. It had many bumps and hurdles that needed to be jumped. I had days of good and days of despair. I had days where life was grand and then days where life almost extinguished from my soul.

Like everyone here, I faced the difficulties I lived with for a lifetime, my denial of something so real and cruel that robbed me of what no child should lose, my spirit, my soul, my future, my hopes and dreams and my love of myself. I suffered emotional, psychological and physical damage from the abuse. I did not know the cause, or maybe I did and refused to admit. Because to admit or have accepted the cause would have required me to accept the abuse, the abuser and more importantly the child within, who harbored the abuse. This child part at least in my fragmented mind was not me.

I have come a long way and the past few months have enriched my life, given validation to my life and more importantly resolution to something that happened to me by someone I was to trust and respect, the parish priest. I traveled with the Diocese since mid 2013. It was my first face to face meeting to tell of what had been done and not knowing if they would be there for me. Not quite sure if my emotions were right, so I treaded lightly. One thing I did know from that first meeting the words and facts expressed by the Diocese, my abuser was known to them. He was my demon and I dared not to share his name.

I had shared prior to this meeting my fate with the parish priest so I could have the courage or ability to enter the church where this all began to bury my mother. That priest set the wheels into motion for resolution. It may have taken three long years with much wear and tear on my mind and body. In the end it brought me to a place of peace and acceptance, a place of support from an institution who I believed would have turned as I confronted but they did not. I met people who have loved and supported me on this journey. I had to overcome the debilitation and destruction caused to me by those I gave much and understand the hurt that was caused to them. CSA is hard not only on the survivor but those around them.

I was able to speak with my friend about these events. My emotions took the best of me. It was in a good way, not from a place of pain but rather one of resolution and satisfaction. She said it was important to me to have this final validation because it was not mandated or put into place to appease or make something go away, but rather a gesture of kindness and compassion, a recognition of the Church’s responsibility of what happened to me.

She also helped me to understand I am facing the realities of those who have spread tales and lies to cover their tracks, to forego the pain or acceptance of their complicity in my unraveling and downfall that began almost 20 years ago with the onset of syncope. They created feelings of abandonment, feelings of loss, feelings of inadequacies within me and sadly some of these emotions in the children. They perpetuated the stories of my unraveling from denial of the abuse and dissociation, to the acts and words that propelled me into the states of dissociation and flashbacks. The stories have traveled far and wide, east and west coasts of the US, Ireland and recently heard them from a relative in England that I lost contact with many years ago. I realized their words and stories had a profound negative impact on my healing. They became destructive and pushed me toward the edge. I feared what others thought, but no longer do I have this fear, I have validation, I have the truth on so many levels.

Do I expect an apology and acknowledgement of their words and actions? No I do not expect. There is a saying and sadly it may apply here, thick as Mick and twice as thick. Meaning they are dense, know all, they cannot be wrong, and their world is the only sane and perfect one. Sadly, many are destroyed and held back by that world. I may have been this way but through healing and meeting many people, learning their frailties, their hurts and damages I find myself more empathic toward people and truly believe I cannot judge anyone until I walk in their shoes.

My friend was kind to those she spoke of, acknowledging we are all products of our childhood and parents do the best they can. Parents learn from their parents. She said a parent should never be so consumed to have a child’s love that the boundaries are crossed and the other parent ignored, shamed. bullied or attacked. A parent pushed from the table over and over is a parent who has been bullied. She said the lies and denials of my abuse should never have occurred to hide a child’s abuse of a parent, yes she said the spitting, the locking a person in the room, vandalizing and destroying personal property and invading a parent’s privacy, the abandoning, the verbal onslaughts is abuse, or to deny a parent’s absence from the lives of the children impacted their social and emotional development. The latter she said was enabling the former to occur. She reminded me hiding from this part of my recovery will only hold me back, I must face and be honest with myself. Those responsible or those who were complicit in the actions have to face the truth in order to heal. She said my not calling it what it was only allows them to continue to deny the roles they played in my unraveling.

I know she is right. I have the validation, I have the support and I have the recognition of the realities of the CSA. They only have their imagination and desire to bury the truth to protect themselves. I have the Diocese’s validation and outreach. The medical professionals now understand the cause of the syncope, as well as the dissociation, is rooted in the CSA. They have medical advice from those who know little of trauma or how the mind works. One day I hope they look at their lives and face it honestly and openly. If not, their lives will never be full. I am only coming into my life now and no one will push me back as I was for so many years.

I do hope to be able to attend the event. I was told I could bring a supporter and if my friend was here she would gladly go with me. However, I am not afraid to go alone for I will be amongst other brave and heroic people who are or have overcome the past of clergy sexual abuse. If they have support with them, I know these supporters will embrace all survivors. I look to meet with the Bishop and accept his heartfelt sorrow for what happened. The Diocese has offered this meeting several times but I chose not to participate.

I believe I am coming full circle. Maybe I am blessed to have the institution stand behind me so I can, maybe never 100%, complete my healing. I now know the tales and denials of my abuse by others have no hold over me today as they once did. Maybe the emotions come from that sense of freedom from the abuse, the abuser and from those who have attempted to destroy me without ever opening their minds to the realities of CSA.

I guess this invitation is what the doctor ordered to bring me the peace and give me the life that was taken so many years ago.

Thank you

Kevin
 
Kevin Sorry been in and out because of family medical issues but all is good now.

When I read this I saw my Mama's family. Selfish, self centered people who only found laughter in making fun of others. Pretending and telling others of what good they did and denying how bad they truly were, loud about what they did but blaming others for what they did.

Yes you were abused by your children and wife and her family. Lies and stories are abuse. I can tell you when my brother finally told Mama she abused him by taking him away from Dad and my sister and I to make her family was abuse. And he laid into her for telling about what Dad did or did not do sexually to us children was abuse. He has learned a lot from his PAS meetings. Mama was shocked and after a few weeks said it was abuse. She also admitted it was abuse to allow us children to do the horrible things we did to Dad. We would have been arrested if anyone knew what we did. Your children would have been arrested or taken away from their mother. No parent should allow or push the children to attack the other parent for their love. They are sick. Mama and her family we now know had emotional and mental issues because of how their own mother allowed grandpa to be treated as he was. I think of him walking away in the frigid snowstorms in Chicago because they needed to make fun of him and bully him They abused grandpa and they say no. They laugh and pretend what wonderful children they were. Bullshit I finally say.

You were abused and they owe you the apologize and not you to them. They have lied and told stories about you to protect themselves. Your former's family is despicable and they used your children as did their mother. I know Mama used us, Mama's family used her and us.

I am in a fiery mood these days after what has been going on here. My wife's family had real love, Mama's family did not even if they say so. They destroyed lives and put on this face of how good they way. Grandpa was the best of them. He was the one bullied but gave too much.

I am sorry for being so honest. I need to be to get better myself.

I want your trip to be good and maybe your children will join you. If like us they will be pigheaded and continue to destroy you. I am glad you are going. You deserve to hear words that may finally free you. I know you have other resolution but sometimes words heal better than tangible acts.

I hope you stay well.

Paul
 
I forgot to say you deserve love not like the love Mama gave Dad after her Mama and her siblings took it all from her, we her children got seconds and Dad leftovers. You were treated the same way. You children treated you as we did our Dad. We were not children we were puppets who did not know love. We pretended and it nearly killed my brother. I am move livid after keeping under control. Mama is truly sorry.One sister has given a somewhat apology, a sister in law of Mama's is the only one who has told the lot off. They deny and tell her she does not know anything. I bet your former's family are the same. Sick demented people is all I can say. I suffered and lost my Dad because of people like them. Stay away from them, even your children until they grow up and admit what happened. I heard some disturbing things at the PAS meeting this week. I do not always go and now hearing children who apologized to their father at the meeting made me envious I can never do that. Your kids are selfish ingrates and their mother and her family are to blame like my Mama and her family. I lost a Dad. Sorry for being so irate tonight.

Paul
 
Paul

I sense you are in great pain. I am sorry to read of it. Dealing with the aftermath of CSA and your family situation can be difficult and painful. I meandered through the process, falsely at times, believing I was accepting it and getting it under control. I heard others say let it out, I need to release the anger I buried for decades, I had the right to be angry at my children and former for the damage they did to push be to a point of near death. Therapist and doctors said it was not healthy to hold it back, the anger that is.

You know my story, I was on the verge of saying goodbye but for reasons I do not understand I could not complete, nor could I understand the love so many gave. I did release the anger, but for me it was not confronting them but rather confronting myself. I was first and foremost angry at myself. Angry because of what had been done to me, angry I allowed the abuser and later tormentors to take my life. The former, the abuser, I came to realize and accept I was a child, I fell under his control, his manipulation. The tormentors, I allowed, because of how thought because of the abuse. I was angry and mad at many. I yelled at myself and finally realized why, it was not my fault.

I have learned on this journey to heal many spouses do not know how to love their spouse first, above their families. When a spouse feels second or third class, and for me it was either third or fourth class, the relationship is doomed. There are telltale signs I have learned from the very beginning. I think these feelings are compounded when one is hiding the secret of CSA. I was damaged and when left as I was experiencing syncope and silently the memories of the abuse were overwhelming I began to accept I was worthless. I saw the spouse respond to the siblings--one saying I do not want to hear another gave up having children to take care of the mother so the spouse needed to get out there. Never saying how about you or how about the other siblings giving up the vacations. Never, it was leave us and in my mind leave me. I heard teachers and neighbors say the children are suffering because of their mother's absence. But that meant little as the siblings called and the flight continued. I heard at a few of the meetings I have attended very similar stories, the abandoned child clinged to the parent who left so not to feel neglected. The adult child never realized why they have a disdain for the other parent until much damage was done to everyone. I have heard the alienating parent speak and for some they show regrets and others say what was I to do, my brother or sister or mother needed me. It is always enlightening to hear their response when asked how about the spouse and their own children. I heard a few finally say wow I never thought of that. It became clear the control families have over one another. As said that type of love is not a healthy love but it is more common than people wish to speak or accept. I lived it and my children are living it. Sadly my children may never see me again, and for me I accept that for the reason I will not be subject to torment that I lived. For them, I see too many adults who suffered and disowned a parent for reasons they failed to understand or explore. I remember the first time I ran for CSA in DC. I met a man and his wife. His daughter came around a few agos after she took the initiative to learn of CSA and what her father lived. She realized her family's words and actions only added to his pain. His son whom he had not seen in 20 or so years came that day--being dragged by his wife and young children. They wanted to meet their grandpa. When the son arrived it was cold and distant but after the son looked at the father and met his wife, it changed. At first it was like how could he be happy when his mother was not. His sister said something I will always remember, Mom never knew how to make Dad happy only her mother and father and her sisters families.The son said maybe you are right. He shook the hand of his father's wife and gave a small hug to the father. I always wonder what happened, hopefully it was the beginning of something new. I admired the sister for learning about CSA and the damage it can do and for looking at her family and seeing how their words and actions only made her father's life more difficult. I do hope that family found a new beginning of love and happiness.

Paul you cannot undo what happened, nor could your father. Your mother is trying, your brother is working hard, your sister the rock in my book has it figured out. She did the hard work years ago. Families are complicated and what is right for one family is not right for another. Love is complicated, some need it desperately and cannot let go of their children, siblings learn which sibling they can control, who will be the one to sacrifice. I saw it first hand. I lived it but today because I let go of so much of the past I am happy, free and gaining control of my life thaw was once controlled by the abuser and those that tormented me. Will I have the reunion like the family I met at the race, I do not know. Would I like it, yes but not on the terms they have lived. I am resolved on this issue.

I have invited the children to the public session this coming Wednesday. I heard from one of the children and hopefully the child will be there. If not, I accept and I am content with my healing.

I hope you find a way to release the anger so you can have the life you deserve. I am here for you, as you have been for me. Email or PM anytime. I do not want to see you suffer. You have a wonderful support system with your wife and daughter. I do hope your son has come around since learning of what you, your siblings and mother did to your father years ago. He seems like a bright young man who will find his way. Your brother I think of often because I have one son so much like him and his siblings much like you and your sister years ago--reinforcing and laughing at his actions toward your father. It has to be difficult on him to realize the love he had with your mother was not always a natural mother child love. He was made an adult too young because of the circumstances.

Take care of yourself--remember I am here anytime. Sorry for such a long response. I hope it helps.

Kevin
 
This weekend I have been thinking about the meeting this Wednesday. Sometimes I like to fantasize and think this will be the final event to put the past in its place and present where it should be. I try not to put too much credence on what will happen because it will be out of my control. I do hope to leave with more peace--despite all I have received in support from the Diocese.

The drive is about 6 hours and I know my mind will be thinking and I am trying to control my thoughts because they can wander to a dark place. I do not want to go there--too much time in the past 2 decades living with memories and pain that should not have been.

I am rambling tonight, anxious but not fretting or fearful. I have been fortunate to receive what I have in healing and this to me is gravy to hear from one who has seen all records--old and new and knows of the deeds done. In my heart from everyone I have spoken the deeds of many priest were known or suspected but hidden--a movement from one parish to another, an assignment to a school and not a parish--now that was quite idiotic to place them with those they most gravitated toward.

Well three days from today I will hopeful be a man free. I am understanding words, actions and sincerity are far more important than monetary or fiscal acknowledgement of what was done.

Well I will call it a night and thank you for listening

Kevin
 
I think about this time of year. It was 4 years ago on October 26, 2012 that my mother passed. It was the day I dreaded for I knew I would have to return to the Church to bury my Mon. The Church cellar is where the abuse occurred. After she passed I knew I had to go to the Church and tell someone, but who for I had left the area years ago. I remembered the priest's name who gave my mother the Last Rites, the people at the assisting living place said he was wonderful, spend time with her even though she was non-responsive. I knew I had to tell someone within the Church of what happened to me. He was a kind and generous priest. He understood, never questioned and gave support beyond belief. Hurricane Sandy was due to arrive and the funeral had to be postponed several times due to the hurricane and the devastation it caused the town. On November 2, 2012 this kind priest and I talked once again. It was one of the dates for the funeral but it had to be cancelled. We had word on Monday Nov 5 the funeral could take place. On Nov 2 the priest and I set up a time to meet the next day. It was to be the day he would take me to the Church to face my past and the abuse. We went and I survived. The Church has been supportive while family turned their backs. I can write this with a full heart, a heart that is void of pain and regret. For I have come to realize regret only lies with those who do not embrace the truth.

The meeting with the Bishop is this Wednesday Nov 2. Coincidental or maybe some hidden message--I tend to try to find hidden meaning as why and timing of events--that it began during this time period four years ago, when I told the Church and faced the past. Maybe this time of year has a special purpose on my journey to heal and within this time maybe the final resolution I have longed to have for a lifetime. Does fate play into our lives? I will find out shortly.

Just more rambling thoughts of what this week will hold for me.

Kevin
 
Ceremony

Thank you--just ramblings as mind wanders. Sometimes separating the past is difficult especially when it will be so face to face in a few days--I am resolved and content but the mind tries to imagine how it will, the words and gestures. I know not to set expectations high because in life there is disappointment.

In the Catholic Church Nov 2 is All Souls Day--a day to remember those who have died. Strangely it was a death that propelled me to seek out the Church and tell of the acts done in the Church Cellar. It was like my mother's last wish, her tenacity to fight on and not leave until I told her what had happened. She was non-responsive but may have heard. Coincidence the priest who gave her the last rites would the one to lead me to the Church and Diocese. Many coincidences, maybe fate. I like to think it was my mother's last act of love that led me to this point of resolution.

I will try to contain--this is almost like my place to journal this path to seeing the Bishop.

Kevin
 
I am off leaving VA shortly for CT. Probably will seem like a long drive with so much racing through my mind. I need to take a step back and say it is just part of healing. This afternoon and evening I look to re-energize my life and close, I guess I will never close, but put the abuse and the life it created back on the bookshelf--I know I will gaze the shelf for the rest of my life and peer at this book and hopeful feel I have truly faced the past and today and the tomorrows are mine to live without him dominating any part of me.

Kevin
 
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