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Sick Puppy

Registrant
I see this so fucking much here. I'm sick of it. I don't want to come here anymore.

All of us know how horrible it is to be raped. We know it. Yet we willingly wish it on people who have hurt us or have committed some crime against another person.

Are these good people? No, they are not. They're bad people, but they are STILL PEOPLE. They have feelings like us. They are PEOPLE. They do not deserve to be raped any more than we did.

It makes me so fucking sick how many of you advocate prison rape. Like it's fucking ok. I am so angry right now but I still wouldn't wish it on you. You'd think that having been raped you would fucking realize how awful it is and not wish it on another. I think that wishing rape on someone is just as fucking bad as raping them.

A hell of a lot more of you are rapists than you realize.

The next time I see this on the board, I am leaving and NEVER FUCKING COMING BACK. I don't want to associate with people who don't even give a fuck about their fellow man.

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You need to slow down. Apparently you have done one of the following two things:
Either you have somehow learned to forgive your abuser
or
You are somewhere in the world of denial and are excusing their behavior.
I have personally done neither. I have a great deal of hatred toward the men who abused me. I am 41 years old now but still feel the need to protect the child I once was and who still lives inside me. I feel the need to self-defend even though it's many years after the fact. I am not a violent person. I do believe in Karma, what goes around comes around. I would like very much for my abusers to know first hand what they did to me and how it has affected the rest of my life. You might try being a little more compassionate toward your fellow survivors since you seem to have so much for those who abused us, all of us, including you, me and Still12. Think about it....
 
Sick Puppy - I realize that 'prison rape' hits pretty close to home and brings back the hurt, pain, anger, RAGE...well, I just wanted you to know I understand your point!!

Love and hugs ((((((SP)))))
:)
Howard
 
Josh - I think I see your point. "Do onto others as you would want done onto yourself." Or don't do as the case might be.

Strangely enough, I am 100% with you on this one. I hope you stick around.

Peace,
Freedom.
 
Originally posted by john24:
You need to slow down. Apparently you have done one of the following two things:
Either you have somehow learned to forgive your abuser
or
You are somewhere in the world of denial and are excusing their behavior.
I have personally done neither. I have a great deal of hatred toward the men who abused me. I am 41 years old now but still feel the need to protect the child I once was and who still lives inside me. I feel the need to self-defend even though it's many years after the fact. I am not a violent person. I do believe in Karma, what goes around comes around. I would like very much for my abusers to know first hand what they did to me and how it has affected the rest of my life. You might try being a little more compassionate toward your fellow survivors since you seem to have so much for those who abused us, all of us, including you, me and Still12. Think about it....
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How the hell is not wanting people to be raped callous to survivors? I would expect more out of people who have experienced it themselves. But of course, anyone who is raped in prison must have deserved it. It's not like there's anyone like that posting on this board, or anything!! :mad:
 
Josh (and everyone),

It seems to me that it's really pretty simple. As I posted to John24 a few minutes ago,
No one deserves to be abused
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I've said much the same thing to others before, too.

I can understand hating a perp, but wishing rape on anyone is more than I can understand. Even accepting rape of anyone goes beyond what I can understand.

A society that's safe for children is not one that can turn a blind eye to some other form of sexual abuse. I may not live to see it reached, but I want this society to move towards that safe one.

That's how I see it.

Joe
 
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Sick Puppy, I think it's the old "Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth" mentality. I think what many people want (at least I do) is to let the perp feel exactly what we felt. I want the perp to understand EXACTLY what I went through.

In one of my fantasies, the only way that can happen is if he is the victim and experiences EXACTLY the same pain and humiliation I did. Then maybe he'd stop. Maybe he'd be sorry and repent... maybe he'd understand, maybe...

We'll, it's just a dream. He was an adult and I was a child. He will NEVER see it from my perspective no matter what... ever. There is no fairy tale ending where everone is happy on the last page of the book.

Rape (that's what it is) is a horrible crime, for years I wished my life were over, that would have been better than what I was going through.

There are so many little things we had to say we were sorry for, what about this BIG ONE... no sincere I'm sorry's from the perp, family, friends, anyone? No one did anything about it.

Let's think this through.

Someone saying "They'll get what they deserve in jail" or anywhere needs a better understanding of what they are saying. That thinking perpetuates the problem and solves nothing. I've heard it before even from family members. Unfortunately, I will probably hear it again. Some people just don't get the impact of what they are saying.

The big question.... What is the solution to stop perps from doing what they do and to heal the victims from the hell they've gone through and maybe still are... to help make the victims whole again. :confused:

Take care and god bless to everyone out here. I wish only the best for everyone.
 
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I'm tired of all the politically correct posts here. No one here would condone the abuse/rape of an innocent human being, nor would we condone it for burglars, or thiefs or arsonists. But I don't view my abusers as human beings, same with anyone else who would deliberately hurt a child for their own pleasure. An adult knows the implications of sexual abuse on a child. It robs them of any type of normal existence. Mine started when I was about 9 years old. I'm now 41. Think of all the time I was robbed of. All the love I haven't been able to accept or enjoy, even from my wife and daughter. And the love that they've not been able to get from me, the deepest kind of love that everyone deserves. All the energy I've had to use to supress my memories and emotions...think of all I could have accomplished in my relationships over the years if these animals , sub-humans had not done what they had done to me. I can't think of a punishment that fits their crimes. And you can bet I'm not the only child that they hurt. If I had my way, they be displayed in the middle of the town square, have their skin sliced off with rusty razor blades and be showered in rubbing alcohol...for all to see. And prison justice does have its place...it serves as a deterrent to some of those other pigs who might have perverted inclinations. Maybe, just maybe, events like the recent murder of former 'priest' John Geoghan, might prevent some poor, innocent child from losing everything that I've lost. I can only hope...and, just like the rest of you, I have a right to my feelings and opinions. I don't condemn you for yours, thanks for letting me have my say.
 
I understand what you mean. I'm a recent recoverer of memories and, while I really do wish some horrible things on my abuser (it's still fresh), I don't wish the rape on my abuser. For all I know, he was raped as a child like he did me.

I'm glad you're able to express your anger. Hang tough and be strong. I wish you peace.
 
I REALLY hate threads that start like this.

There is enough BS to feel bad about. It takes so much effort to get over that, that to give yet another thing to feel bad about as far as how we think is completely rediculous. Why anyone would bring it up here is completely beyond me.

Lead by actions not by words, if a behavior is morally reprehensible, try to make a difference in exlempifying your behavior instead of judging others. Sometimes when we judge others we focus our anger on what we see in ourselves.
 
Gentlemen: I think that there has been some good arguments made here and that you all have your own opinions. This might be an opportune time to end things. I know that there are some who have actually been raped in prison and that would bring an entirely different perspective. And they were there not for SA but for other things.

I think that we should respect the feelings of others and remember that the prime reason for being here is to walk down the road together and share in our sucesses and to learn from otherr experiences.
 
Ya, we can be a jumble, can't we. Some of us have it together and are living our lives the best we can, even accomplishing something now and then. Others of us can get stuck in a revenge or get even mode. I can be both at different times, at the same time.
Be merciful and bring sun light and peace into the world. Take a gun and blow the fuckers head off.
I had that feeling tonight. Not for me, but for one of my friends.
"Leave him alone, God damnit, leave him the fuck alone."
I suppose that in saying that for my friend, I'm saying it to my abuser, too, but afraid to address him directly, even if it is only fantasy.
Some of you have reached a certain peace......I'm still working on my mine. I suppose I'll always be a little schizoid about your/my abusers, but know I respect where each of you is on this subject.
Peace my brothers, maybe some love, too, we are getting stronger in being here.

Brother David
 
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