Husbands SA just found out after causing me pain. LONG, help anyone?

Husbands SA just found out after causing me pain. LONG, help anyone?

jaywho

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Were do I start? I would like to thank you all for the inspiration and motivation you have given me to help my husband. Through your stories and strength I have found understanding where my husband is not yet able to furnish it. I have lived in HELL for the last 3 months. My story is quite different than any I have seen posted so far. Any thoughts and insight would be appreciated. I am trying to find answers for my husband and would be lying if I didnt include myself. I find myself playing the WHY ME out in my head at the least 5 times a day; (guilt then overcomes me). I would like to focus my concentration to the real issue WHY HIM and thus the sadness will be shifted in the correct direction.

As you read please understand my view, in order to help my husband I am more than willing to take one for the team. To know he has lived in this madness for over 23 years on his own kills me. In my experiences the last 3 months I have been taken on an emotional roller coaster all by the man I love. I do however understand the logic. If this experience will bring him closer to me, his real life, and his true self. . I am more than willing to travel this road. Understand I am speaking about my soul mate. I have came near death myself the last few months, and depression is now my friend. Life without him, even the thought is unbearable.

My story reads just like a fairytale. I was however the Prince. My husband came from a BAD home. I never knew there was any sexual abuse, I was just aware of the parental neglect and later the physical abuse by his older brother. He came from a broken home; they were divorced when he was conceived so the father was never really there. His mother, WORTHLESS. Drug infested, self-centered, mental (truly),. Ive always said she would take the shirt right off your back! He remembers her mostly NEVER being there. Hitch hiking as the school bus went by to bring him home. Drunk, drugged and feeling sorry for herself. He was left alone with his other siblings with just about anyone, for several weeks at a time, often. Placed in foster care I think twice. Parties were more important, he doesnt even remember a real Christmas, Tree, lights . . Presents. . Ever?

We met at the ripe old age of 16 and 14. It was his 16th B-day. I never knew such a sweet; pure hearted person even then. He was soft hearted, cried when we left each other after a date. Expressed real emotion, not any of the motcho attitude any other would give. Early on I was given insight into how much he really needed me. He has always said he never knew love until he met me. My family took him in; my family is his very own. I really think my mom likes him more, ha . . ha.

So the real problem, bear with me. Any flashes or triggers I apologize but thank you for trying. Ive now explained us, forgot to mention my husband is also not the typical stereotype. He doesnt drink doesn't do drugs, anything to hurt himself. He is not angry and is mostly considered laid back. I realize now it is just him avoiding conflict. When I say we have only had these last 3 months of problems in the last 14 years of marriage; that is the truth. We dont argue we are together all the time; we truly enjoy one another. We agree we are Best Friends!

The Military is where I guess to start. We were separated for over a year. Not because deployment we were actually stupid enough to do this to ourselves. We were 6 hours from home and 1 year away from getting out. After 8 years of dreaming about the day we would raise our children back home we decided to jump the gun and him make the drive so we could get settled before the big move from military to civilian. During this time I saw him at the least once ever 3 weeks. Our son, just over one year. He never acted any different. I knew it was hard on him from his conversation but it was also so hard on me. I knew what we had so I never suspected the separate life my husband was leading. Being in the barracks was no place for a married man. I thought he could handle it. He never drank before but I knew there was a lot of that there and accepted that he would get drunk with the guys. I even knew the bars were an out. Something better than setting in all the time. I love to dance. I frequented the bars when he was in Bosnia, no big deal, I never disrespected him.

Anyways, this girl called 3 months ago. She asked for my husband, it was late at night. He admitted before I made him call her back to see what she was calling for (it had been 4 years) that they had slept together. He from then on sent me on a roller coaster that I knew deep down was all fiction. He couldnt answer direct questions like, how many times did you sleep with her? He would pause, send me over the edge (I thought it would be important enough to remember considering he was hurting me.) I never got a straight answer. It was like the worst he could tell me he would. He said for instance like (10 -16) times sleeping together but in the same conversation tell me that he never wanted it he was so drunk he would come in/out and she would be fu**ing with him (his words). I was told that he never kissed her, never called her, never bought her things, never showed any emotion, and never had an orgasm. He said he felt pressure, like having sex was the only alternative. He said though that he actually penetrated her? I was so confused, I mean how do you get an erection? What would make you give in? YOU WERE MARRIED TO ME, WAS THAT HOW EASY I AM FORGOTTEN?

I was given an image of her making him mad, him mounting her from behind, him never finishing but doing it only to making it stop. She was ugly like a 2 on a scale of 10. There was nothing that attracted him, this all I made him swear on my life and his children's. It was too unreal to trust. It never hit me what he was trying to tell me because he tried harder to MAKE IT MORE so I would believe he used her! Bear with me, in his mind he would rather me think he had an affair than to take a chance on my figuring out he was molested as a child. He said he thought I would never believe him anyway about the girl. He had full opportunity to indulge in her, she was so dumb he would treat her like crap and she would still call, still get him drunk by buying him booze and he never expected to hear from her again after every occasion together.

I figured him out though. I knew him, the real him and as I told him, I cant think badly of you, you would NEVER hurt me, this isnt making any sense?. One night it hit me, like a brick and I confronted him. I asked him if all those things about his feelings were correct would it be correct to assume he was assaulted and sexually coerced? After watching me cry, scream, throw him out, I was crushed to hear I had been mad at him for being USED. The guilt swallowed me. I then received the truth. I was told that it only happened 2 times. He was so drunk he didnt even remember leaving the bar with her. He said she must have drove because both times he ended up at her house, our truck outside. He said he woke up, in the middle of her messing with him.

The first night he was out with a friend. That friend hooked up with hers. He was left without a ride; she then volunteered to take him to the barracks. He didnt really think she was interested, he didnt even talk really to her. He said she hung around him but only cause her friend was all over his friend. He said there wasnt 5 min. of conversation exchanged between them. Anyway, somehow in his mind on the way home he decided he needed to use the bathroom. He was sick, needed to take a leak. He said he remembers telling her that, next thing he knew he was at her house. He thought it was wired, (I would be mad) but he honestly knew he was going to pee then get her to drive him on. He said he remembers the bathroom, then. . He woke in her bed, coming in and out of passing out with her fondling him and on one occasion her mouth. He said it was dark. He wanted it to quit so he mounted her. I was reassured that he never kissed, touched or anything I should be mad about. He didnt enjoy it, didnt have an orgasm and honestly just did it to make it stop. He said he stopped dead in the middle, after maybe 2 min. pulled himself together, walked back to the living room, she came in and he asked her to drive him on to the barracks. He said he cried prayed, screamed, it was awful. He had been violated and he hated her. He didnt have much guilt though, he said he in his drunk mind thought I would want him to do those actions. I am a very outspoken woman, I am strong willed, he said I wouldnt have ever let anyone do this to me. He said he thought, If I knew I would want him to take control, not have these feelings and teach her a lesson.

Then the thing that made me figure the REAL TRUTH LATER he continued to see her. She called like 1 week later; she however didnt mention the sex. He was mad cause he thought that was screwed up. She never recognized what she did, never made excuses. He said he was so mad, he needed her to pay. He agreed to go with her out again. She would buy every drink, she would accept not being talked to. . She never received any attention. That was to show her that she wasnt important and that it shouldnt have happened. He said it backfired though, instead of being mad she kept the drinks coming, she wouldnt talk about it, she never gave any inclination that she was interested in him, just kept the booze coming. This made him madder, made him feel more used. He said he never gave her a reason for her actions and never did she even act interested other than wanting to be with him and buying him drinks. The anger grew; she made him feel bad; she made him cheat on me. She needed to pay . . .

I realized all those things were possible even researched it on the Internet. I thought I had the truth finally and it was great knowing I wasnt forgotten and it wasnt ever about him not loving me. BUT THEN: Why would he give in so easy? Why so much anger and needing revenge so bad he would risk me finding out? Why be in her presence if he hated her so much, wouldnt that be hard to deal with? What was the real reason in playing these high school games? I knew there was more. . I was on a mission. . I found the devil in my mist; I was going to expose it. I couldnt stand the doubt in my head. . I knew better, I KNEW HIM!

After 2 months of complete hell and emotional warfare with my own mind I finally found the truth. I took him into the bedroom, our children asleep and confronted him. I said, I am being lied to, I am missing something, I know she isnt enough to make you do these things. I knew his family life and the suspicion was there, I had to ask. I said, Where you messed with when you were little? There is too much anger, as an adult you could fix it, as a child you were helpless, is that why you needed revenge so bad?. He got tears and screamed, LEAVE IT ALONE. I said, NO, this is my life, something ruined it, I am entitled to know, I will know! I then saw his tears and said, If it is true would you tell me? He said, NO. The next two hours were awful. He cried, I held him, reassured him I would understand. No details were given just the pain was expressed.

Since then I have pried further. He would rather not talk at all. I however get mad. I know, I shouldnt but as I said to him. . Understand my side. What ever was so bad has made my husband pay twice. He has allowed the people of the past to control his life again. In the mist of him paying I am too. I am apart of this cycle now; I am also affected by the past. I however dont see the hurt; I know nothing about the pain involved. I havent experienced such anger, pain, distrust, I just know I was his wife.

I want to know the details, although he would rather me not. I feel like he thinks I will think about him badly but the truth is I need those details to fight the devil in my mind. Just as he saw her 6 times after the first experience for answers, I also am searching for the answers. I want to feel the pain he does to understand the actions he took. Mostly the reason is the fear. If these things were possible then what will my future hold if the problem isnt fixed? He has to understand that it wasnt the situation that caused him to react that way. Understand she shouldnt have got him drunk but what type of woman would settle for that? He gave her nothing but she needed it so bad she settled. She wanted more and allowed him to treat her this way. I think she put him in her bed so in the morning he would wake up and think they had something more. Women think weird and the not mentioning it would be because he didnt. I mean why talk about you being used and you making it possible. I think she may also have a history, how and why else accept this? How would this be her using him if she got nothing?

I do think if the past wasnt in his mind he would have fought. He would have at the least put her head in the pillow, have his way and then laugh his way out the door. It was different though. He made her the bad guys of his past. Because he didnt want what was happening, the feelings of the past haunted him. He saw her as taking advantage (as she did) because he was drunk. He saw her not talking about it and that meaning the same as when he was little, it was acknowledged that it was wrong. (She really just didnt know how to talk about it). Understand I am not making her a victim. I just know that she must have really wanted him, why call? Why buy him drinks, why get treated like crap, why call him after 4 years. He is really good looking, he had a good job, nice truck, sweet and mostly wasnt all over her. She was a divorced 31-year-old ugly duckling. She was last with a druggy; my husband was a PRINCE. She was obsessed with him, like a stocker. He however sees her as another PERP like she just did these things to use him. Understand though that she got 2 min. and all women know. . Behind isnt the best way. . She got nothing. . Used. . She allowed it. .

See, I try and make him understand this because half his problem now is that he got used as an adult. That isnt true. The situation, the feelings were the same but he made it into what he wanted it to be. He saw the past; the little boy felt the same. . He reacted the same. . She reacted as the others with no emotion. . He saw his past. . He saw anger, fear, resentment, he needed revenge.

So, where do I go from here? I need to know more. Not to pry but so that he will understand his actions. Understand he hurt me. Understand those things now as an adult arent up to anyone but himself. He has control now, this is his life. He must take control, he must find peace. . Why allow them to control him?

I need to feel his pain to know my love. You know he said the times with her were the drunkest ever. Never blacked out before, would that mean he was drugged? Also, he explained that the whole time the feelings were never with her. Always with his brother who saw his way with him as a child. He felt weird because of the erection; he remembered the beatings, the pain.. He needed it to stop. He said as a child he had no one to turn to. He pretended to be someone else, as an adult he took me there. He said the whole time as he gave in he thought of me. I gave him strength and he knew I loved him, he could do this because it didnt matter, no emotion involved and it was okay because he had my love.

The woman called him for one year. Aug-December he saw her 4 times. The two times this happened was then. Dec-May there was no contact, she called maybe once a month. Short conversations. He kept away, realizing he couldn't come out ahead he said. Right before he left he saw her twice more, so he could see if then she would talk, she didn't and thus the meetings stopped.
:confused: :rolleyes: :( :eek:
The people, who did this as a child, I have met. Woman and a man, aunt and uncle, they are dead. They took the children, he and his brother, another girl, we dont know who, and made them do these things as they watched ... My husband was about 5, his brother 8. Later the older brother began to do these things to my husband without instruction. On his own he would force himself on him. Later, when he was older about 10 - 12 he then instead of the sexual abuse received physical abuse by the same brother, every day for about 2 school years. . He said he wanted to die and at times, he was chocked until the point of passing out. That brother is still around, my husband hates him, I now know why. He, the brother tries to have a relationship . . . never acknowledges the pain, always ends the conversation on the phone with a Love ya brother!. He is still the same SOB in my book, an alcoholic, wife beater, child beater and what else Im now not so sure? My husband tolerates him, I think now so he can show him as an adult that he is better, he over came, and he is worth more. My husband gets enjoyment out of that I think. The mother, sure she knew about the beatings but she didnt do anything. She stills now thinks she raised her children so well, she did her best. He doesnt talk to either of them often and when he does it is because he feels like he should.. It is his mother, WHO CARES?

His other siblings we think were treated the same; he however doesnt want to talk to them about it. He still thinks just in case they didnt that they will not believe him! That is his choice, I dont think he is alone though.
 
Hi jaywho,

Maybe our stories are different in some ways, but so many of us share, and understand, the pain, fear, and confusion, that you express here.

I also met my boyfriend when we were kids, we've been best friends since almost day one and like you, once I was over the initial shock and anger of finding out that he'd been abused, all I wanted was to help him find a happier, more truthful, more genuine way to be... even when I am terrified that his finding that will mean the end of our relationship, I want to see him find it.

I struggle with these feelings too:
Mostly the reason is the fear. If these things were possible then what will my future hold
And that's partly why I get terrified that our relationship will end, and out of my fear I've pushed too hard in the past. Honestly it's taken everything I had to rebuild what was broken when my boyfriend acted out (he did it online, not in person; like you I found out years later)-- I don't think I can handle any more secrets, or any new betrayals. Also, I don't know entirely who he'll be as he recovers, and as much as I want to see it happen, I'm afraid that we'll grow apart.

You say you want to shift the focus on to your husband. This is good, if you mean that you want to stop being depressed, blaming yourself and your circumstances for his betrayal. But you are allowed to have your own feelings about everything that you've been through in the past 3 months, and it's okay to focus on yourself in this case.

I am sure that some brilliant guy will come along soon and remind us all that survivors can't be dragged into recovery. And he will be right. Your need to do something, learn something, understand--those are your needs, not his. You can't make him understand, you can't walk down his path for him, you can't interpret his past actions for him, you can't feel his pain--especially if he's not even letting himself feel it. But you ARE fully entitled to your pain and anger. It sounds harsh, but the only one you can fix is you--and that's good for your husband and your marriage too. We all need a friend in good working condition.

Please keep reading and talking to us, and take care of yourself,
SAR
 
Jaywho

I never told anyone the full extent of my abuse until I met my wife. She has written of her experinces with me on my blog site. Its not pretty and I have physically assaulted her in the past when drunk, which was most of the time. This is perhaps my new everyday nightmare trying to forgive myself for that. I have sought anger management but thats another story.

If you decide to take a look please be aware that it is full of triggers.

The blog can be found at
https://www.waltonhop.blogspot.com

and my wifes chapter is entitled

"A Partners perspective".

Best of luck

Archnut
"And all that was left was hope"
 
ARCHNUT:
Thank you for your help! In your wife's Blog she said: Over the years when Dan has stopped drinking we talked about the abuse and the possibility of doing something about it, but what?

Please know that the Internet is a useful search engine, full of information but it is people like your wife and yourself that make it possible to find answers. If anything more I hope you realize that without people and websites as this one I may have never fully found understanding with my husband. I am still searching for the understanding and with stories and triumphs like yourselves I can be also optimistic and believe as with your wife that things will be fine! My roller coaster will come to an end and the ride will be over. Although with all scary rides you will forever remember the thought and the feelings it produced in you. I however believe that just as the Volcano in Richmond VA, Kings Dominion; I will remember the ride but will also remember I overcame the fear! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Your wife is just as I hope my husband sees me as being; wonderful, loving and there for you! As I said to my husband, I feel like now I am backed in a corner. My feelings although I know he does find them important are second to his. My anger for all the people who hurt him is there, I have to watch though that I dont bring it out in him. I am on the edge, wondering and searching for all the right words . . he said however that I always help him just by being there and trying to understand . . that in its own self is a new ball game for him . . for 20 some years hes carried it alone, I now walk beside him!!
:) :confused: :( ;)
 
Jaywho-

I can really relate to your story. I found out that my husband cheated on me about 8 months ago. I was completely stunned. During that crisis within our marriage, other "stuff" started coming out.
He says he hated having sex with this woman, that he felt like he couldn't say no, and that he hates this woman and hates himself even more.
Our life has become so surreal since his admission. Memories, nightmares, and tormenting thoughts have been haunting him ever since. And he said that his whole life, he sees people (men and women)as sexual objects, in a tormenting kind of a way. He has said he hates sex, although he also enjoys it, and those conflicting thoughts have really screwed him up.
The one differece in our stories is that my husband still doesn't know exactly what happened to him. He has literally blocked out a great big chunk of his childhood. I would love to hear from somebody who initially could'nt remember their abuse, recovered memories etc. Their are so many questions I have.
This is the first time I have posted here, Your letter just hit home. I am going through A LOT of the same things you are. Please hang in there, one day at a time.
Kate
 
Kate:
Sorry to hear you are also living in my Hell! I was also as you said "stunned".

I must say that my husband however isn't in complete knowledge of his past. He knew that it happened he said. As the experiences with the woman were happening he had more "flashes". That is why when he took it upon himself to "make it stop", he had no choice. He was remembering so much that made no sense at the time. Being drunk didn't help I am sure. He thought of the action, the sounds, the feelings he said were all the same. I think this is when most of the remembering took place.

He has remembered with me a lot since he first told me. He said then, with the girl he knew the specifics but tried not to dig to far. Always in his mind he was able to just put the bad stuff out of his mind. He said he used that same powers then. He just had the basic anger, fear and revenge that drove him. He thinks bringing out all the pain then would really have sent him flying!

He is finally seeing that by talking it is helping him (not to mention me). He said he doesn't feel alone anymore. He is open to my questions and will indulge in his own "picking" of the mind. He however is finding more that scares himself.

He remembers now that there was a child in grade school he picked on, beat up, no reason . . made him feel good? The baseball glove that his brother used to beat him. He cried with that memory. He is as a boy when we talk. He is so fragile, he always talks more when in bed with me and cuddling. Security is what he says he finds with me there.

Keep on trying to understand. This is new to me and the information I have received here has helped us both. He has not came here yet but I have expressed some of the issues others have faced.

I will pray for you as you please do for me. We must remember that it really isn't about us anymore. I promised to love and honor my husband, honestly in sickness and health. That is what I remember. This is a sickness that he can't control. He would love to get well/ for it to have never happened; I have promised to stay until he does . . I have said before that I love him more than myself, I would die for him . . in a sense I have.
 
Kate: read the article on the homesite under professionals

"Apply being in movement". The Doc states:

Situations or people with significant resemblance to the original traumatic events and perpetrators are particularly hard to handle. The person will react to present situations or people as though they actually are the ones experienced in the past; consequently such reactions will be loaded with emotions that are not appropriate to the actual present situations and people.

Like my husband yours may also have been in a situation that made the past become the present. He may have felt as my husband that the feelings then were the same as when he was little thus, reaction was the same.

Those articles are great! I only had time for like 2 but will come and read more Tom.
Hope that helps you too, I was exited to let you know.
 
Jaywho, a woman that I knew did basically the same thing to me that was done to your husband. I cannot talk about it much right now as I am still facing criminal charges for what I did with the anger in reaction to it. Where I live, what she did is legally recognized as rape. Also, it is not uncommon for female predators to use the "great equalizer" (alcohol).
 
Jaywho-

Thanks for directing me to those articles. They are very, very helpful. I especially found the articles on recovered memories useful. Up until yesterday, I hadn't heard of anyone going through the exact same things as my husband. There are a lot of similiarities, but I hadn't found any info. on people blocking out their childhood memories to the point of literally not knowing exactly what happened. Although I do not wish this pain on anybody, I am reassured knowing that these situations do exist, and that we are not insane.

I wish you and your husband some peace and rest, if you are anything like me you are exhausted too. I have 2 kids also, and lately, I feel like my husband is another one of my children.

Mike: I know that you can't divulge much information. But, thank you for sharing what you did. It really is an enormous help. I am clueless about this situation. Unfortunately my husband is not ready to talk to other people or check out this site, but he listens to me regarding what I have gained from this site and I know that he feels a little relief that he is not alone. I hope that you are getting all the support and compassion that you need.
 
Mike: I am sorry you too have this experience to deal with. Some would never beleive a woman could do these things to an adult male. There is a website: ttp://www.menweb.org/dateviol/index.htm

It is quite a powerful study concerning women and the number of men being sexually coerced or assulted under the influence. I do know my husband said he had some real crazy thoughts about hurting this woman; I wouldn't expect that with his history any thoughts of this nature would be abnormal. Good luck with the case, Jaywho
 
Jaywho, Thank you.
 
Jaywho

I am not sure what to say. I have read your post. I feel great hurt for you, for the betrayal of both you and your husband. I am not married, never have been. I have had one serious girlfriend, the one I am with now. I will tell you that I have never 'had sex'. I have never had anything other then the abuse experiences. But I know that there are people who 'act out' their anger and emotions in a sexual way.

I am not sure what help he, or you, are getting right now. But I would suggest a therapist. One for him. One perhaps also for you together, as a couple. Maybe even one for you. I know that my behavior this last year has had my girlfriend and close friends near crazy with me. She has told me in the past 'Go talk to your therapist, or I will'. I know that her independence and loyalty to me has limited her sources of support. I want her to have those, and I'm sure a loving husband would want you to have emotional support also.

I do not know what else to say, other then good luck to both of you. Thank you for being such a good person with him.

Leosha
 
Jaywho,

Your story really touched me. My H and I have been married for 18 yrs. 18 months ago, I found out my H was having an affair with a coworker for 6 months. On the same night, he also told me that he had been SA by his older brother. It has been quite a rollercoaster ride!!!

I have supported him, been there for him through all of the flashbacks, nightmares and everything else. I was in extreme pain from the betrayal but put that on the back burner so I could help him. The problem was that I lost myself in the process which didn't help him either. So I am working on myself, figuring what I need and want and I am there for my H but I've realized that he is the only one that can work on his issues and I am there to support him.

At 3 months into this, we were both a complete mess. What has helped us also is that he has been seeing a therapist for about 15 months for the SA, he is also in group therapy and Ive had my own therapist to help me deal with the betrayal and working on myself.
I would say that both of us are starting to do a lot better in the last few months. I read an article that has really helped me understand some of the vunerablities of sex abuse victims and how it can relate to infidelity.


Some common vunerablities of sex abuse victims:
1) Low self esteem/sense of worthlessness. For those who were repeatedly abused they percieve there only value in having sex or being used for sex. They have a hard time seeing themselves beyond this. Often they cannot accept compiments, cannot accept loving relationship is because they don't feel worthy of being loved.
2) Disassociate. Victims learn both in the begginning of being abused then later as a coping mechanism to disassociate themselves from the abuse from their attacker. During the abuse the victim will learn to pick a spot on the ceiling or wall and focus on it until the abuse was over. After the abuse is over they learn to disassociate the every day person from the person abused. It allows them to seperate the pain of abuse from the everyday life.
3) Minimizing. Abuse victims learn to minimize the abuse. After all if they convince themselves its not abuse then they are not victims...who wants to be a victim. Or if they convince themselves the abuse wasn't all that bad then don't feel the urgency to face it to deal with it.
4) Compartmentalize. Abuse victims learn to comparmentalize things. If they store painful memories in the far reaches of their mind then don't have to live with it constantly. The memories are still there unlike suppressing or repressing memories.
5) Secrecy. Abuse victims learn real early you don't tell. Often a skilled (word used loosely) predator can tell which children will or won't tell. And of course they go after the child they think won't tell. In closer relationships where the abuser is a someone known to the victim they rely on pressure and manipulating the victim into silence. They may say things like be quiet you don't want to people to know you did this or that. They may imply some type of harm will come to the victim and in some cases outright threaten the victim should they tell.
6) Self blaming. This comes in many forms. The abuser themselves while try and convince their victim they "wanted it" or they "enjoyed it". The victim might have a physical reaction to the abuse. They will say well if I felt something if I responded then I must have wanted it in someway. Finally society will project blame....good girls don't do that. For boys straight boys don't do that and so on.
7) Lack of empathy. Not surprising that if you leam to ignore your own abuse then you won't be very aware of other persons pains.
8) Distorted sexuality. Sex becomes something that is based on control not on love and pleasure. The victim sees sex a way to get "secondary gains". If I submit to this then I will be liked, loved or even just left alone. They see sex as unpleasant, as hurtful as being less of significane. In short they take those skills of minimizing, disassociation and apply it to their sexuality. Sex is less about pleasure and more about who is the boss.
Those are just some of the many ways sex abuse impacts its victim. How does that relate to adultery?
Well first and foremost we know many WSs had low self esteem. They felt unloved, they felt worthless.
We also know that WSs compartmentalize, minimize, disassociate themselves from the fantasy of their affair and their every day life.
And of course all affairs involve a high level of secrecy.
But here is the big key for those WSs that were sexually abused as a child or young teen........these feelings (distorted sexuality and sense of worthlessness), these learned
behaviors (compartmentalizing, disassociating and minimizing) were FORCED on them.
The SA victim HAD to learn these behaviors in order to cope with something forced on them against their will. And often forced on them when they were for the most defenseless to deal with the abuser.
I would urge any BS who's spouse was sexually abused to read The Sexual Healing Journey. It covers a ton of stuff on how SA impacts its victims. It also speaks to the partners or loved one of SA victims.
So both WS and BS dealing with SA please keep in mind what happened in the recent past was strongly influenced by your WS's past as a child or young teen. And it was a past that saw things forced on them against their will.


I wish you all the best,
Take care
darp
 
Originally posted by kate:
Jaywho-


He says he hated having sex with this woman, that he felt like he couldn't say no, and that he hates this woman and hates himself even more.
This sounds like the same stuff my fiance says about some of the women he's slept with.. I never understood that it was really not "just him" until now.. despite my trying to do so.. it just strikes me as bizarre to hear someone say "I couldnt say no" but I guess its true...

thanks.
 
Originally posted by darp123:
At 3 months into this, we were both a complete mess. What has helped us also is that he has been seeing a therapist for about 15 months for the SA, he is also in group therapy and Ive had my own therapist to help me deal with the betrayal and working on myself.

I would say that both of us are starting to do a lot better in the last few months. I read an article that has really helped me understand some of the vunerablities of sex abuse victims and how it can relate to infidelity.

Good luck and good wishes to you too darp. As my fiance says "things wont always be the way they are"..its tough going when you are in the thick of it but look back on this in 6 months to a year and things will be much lighter because you are working on it. Remember to take good care of yourself during this time - I know it sounds trite but make sure to take your vitamins, eat well, try to sleep as much as you can (and if you cant get some help), take some time out to relax, play, get away, etc. Dealing with this stuff can take such a terrible physical toll on the body like you are being squeezed by a car.. so you need to stay "filled up" with healthy things.

P
 
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