How Dare They!!!

How Dare They!!!
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Muldoon

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CBS Evening News made me super mad tonight. I want to write them and let them know how wrong they where linking the closing of 65 parishes in Boston Archdiocese to the Celery Sexual Abuse. How F***** our they making it sound that the $$$$ for the settlement is making the church close 65 churches.

The true is that the money for victims is coming from the sale of property owned by the church. Boston has super valuable land that one Univerity out they would love to have to expand their campus.

How the 100s of victims are being linked by the mass media as the cause for the closing of parishes, cant believe this bull shit.
Tom
 
Living in Massachusetts Tom has been an experience during this scandal. How quickly the victims were discredited, the blind adoration for these priests and the church, the total denial that this happened.

It's disgusting that people would rather hold onto their blind trust than protect children from abuse and then criticize them once they finally decided to tell.

-Sean
 
Muldoon - I am from the UK and don't know anything of this situation, other than what you have printed here.

I know that others on this site get benefit from religion, but as long as the Church protects serial abusers I will not go to Church. I could expand this topic greatly but my belief is that we can all believe in higher beings and celebrate it in the way that suits us. We do not have to go to a place that is merely a preaching ground for hypocrites.

If some of those places really closed for the reasons that they are stating , that would be a good thing. Why are none of those priests ever struck by lightning?

*The Church in the UK is one of the biggest business institutions in the country (land ownership etc... including the Metro Centre that opens on a Sunday when we are all supposed to be in Church).

Sorry if I offend anyones opinions here, but I cannot support a system that will lead to more of us here in the longer term.

Rik
 
*&(&^%&))&

Leosha
 
Muldoon, I missed this news broadcast but I certainly would have liked hearing just how they managed to spin this one. Was it a Church official who said this, or just the reporter?

I am an active practicing Catholic whose children attend Catholic school. That said...WHEN WILL MY CHURCH START TAKING SOME RESPONSABILITY FOR ITS OWN ACTIONS/INACTIONS? Lately I have seen a great deal of "spin", I truely believe they would like the faithful to turn on these victims who have come forward. That would be one sure way of keeping others from coming forward. You can bet we will see much more "spin" as John Jay College prepares to release numbers (February 24 or the 27th)regarding the extent of clergy abuse over the last 50 years.

Just last week the diocesan attorney for the Paterson diocese here in NJ was quoted in a local paper..he was refering to 21 new victims who had filed a class action suit, 19 of these victims were all abused by the same priest, a priest who the Church defrocked last year and admittedly abused scores and scores of boys. The doicesan attorney said "these victims are trying to get revenge any way they can" "They equate revenge with money" he also went on to question why these victims all came forward at the same time, 2 years ago, he said "there must have been something in the drinking water that they were all drinking at the same time". I guess he forgot that Bishop Wilton Gregory, head of the Catholic Conference of Bishops, 2 years ago called on all victims of clergy abuse to come forward so they may recieve healing. So even today the Church's practice is to deny, ridicule the victim, eventually offer a small settlement for secrecy (and suggest the secrecy agreement is necessary to protect the victim, as if the victim requested it). Then have nothing to do with the victim...this IS NOT EVERY CASE but is still happens FAR TOO OFTEN and to say that 90% of all diocese in this country are in compliance with the Dallas Charter is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Has anyone seen any large scale outreach to victims? I have not, the church has more than 13 hospitals nationwide for clergy who need help with their pedophilic tendencies. How many do you think they have for victims.....0!

Sorry to sound so critical but this is the truth as I see it. Much more needs to be done and the Church just wishes this problem would go away. Only when a light shines on the truth are they motivated to reform, albiet at a very slow pace.

I have several good friends who are priests and I know most are good people, it is the Hierarchy which still has much to learn here. Some clearly have taken very postive steps and change is occuring but I believe most diocese still don't know how to deal with those who have been victimized! I pray one day they will gain the wisdom to know how!

Mark
 
Mark It was the writers that wrote The headline.

In the Wake of the Clergergy Sexual Abuse and HUGE financal settlement 65 parishes will be closed.
So they didn.t dircetly say that the victims caused this but made you think it was the victims that where shuting down the churches.
What bullshit. Tom
 
"Blaming the victim," has become a cliche but only because it was used in response to the same thing happening again and again.

I think the headline and society's predispostion towards blaming victims is a symptom of denial and one of the hardest things for a lot of us to get past both on a personal and social level.

At the same time as I am struggling with my own disbelief of some of what was done to me, I struggle with knowing that all the grownups that could have intervened are now going to deny that anything happened.

I think the church's denial is like a big train barreling down the tracks. It will take a lot of slowing down before it can be stopped.
 
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