how can i cry (possible triggers)

how can i cry (possible triggers)
Hello. I have been looking at this site and it is great to see that finally I am not alone. :)I apologise now if i ramble a bit too much in this message.

Reading the various posts; i have seen some guys write stuff and I go "Yeh" thats me too!!!
In fact i see little bits of myself all over in the various posts and thoughts expressed so well by all the guys. It is liberating to see some of my thoughts written by other guys which is helping me actually start to define the thoughts in my own head (hope you understand what I mean!)

I have been wearing a mask for most of these years. My family don't know that i suffered from csa. I kept it hidden. You know the mask i mean - the mask the world sees - my family, my work colleagues etc etc. But inside the mask was another me who kept everything hidden.

I did tell a religious person when i was 11/12. At time i remember feeling so dirty, soiled and ashamed when i was talking - those feelings consumed my whole little body at the time.But i do remember coming out from that visit and feeling happy. I was proud of myself. I had an inner strength.

The only problem is i am now 31. And well in between i have done the usual, gone to college,, got a job, house etc. So on the exterior i am successful. But on the interior i am not. My life is passing me by and I am in a rut. I am the only one that knows this. To be honest i am reaching the crossroads in my life and looking back on the road i have travelled i really need to make some decisions and sort myself out!!

THe other bit that i hate is that i have never had a g/f or been in a relationship. I am afraid of intimacy. I am also confused over my sexuality. I have never had that whole teenage thing of hanging out with girls and going thru that learning curve as a teenager.To be honest i was always isolated at school, and found it hard to have friends. I was also teased at school e.g nancy boy (the usual crap - you know what i mean).But school was'nt a totally horrible place.

Well anyway i have moved on.
Even today at 31 i don't have a lot of friends. I don't go out a whole lot e.g. every weekend. I do have hobbies and am very sensitive and caring person. I am very deep. but i want to start living my own life.As far as i know i am liked by the friends and family that i have.

So in late 2006 i went for some counselling. I was surprised at how easy i could open up and talk to my counsellor.Ok i know i was paying him but it was my own time to talk my inner thoughts loudly and not have to worry about the impact it would have on family or friends. It is something that the modern young guy does not do - is have a real heart to heart chat with another male and discuss any issues/concerns. Women and girls can do it real easy and share their problems. For me i think i have been searching for a true friend to talk to them but i know when you go down the route of CSA the "genie is out of the bottle" and it may affect the friendship/or they could go off and tell someone. What i mean is by not telling my friends/family it meant i had control so i was not threatened by more people knowing about it. (pardon the pun but hope you know what i mean!)

I have never been drunk. I was always in fear of losing control of myself e.g. blurting something stupid out. And guess what! one night a few years ago i had a party at my home and I did get drunk. And I got upset and was with a friend up in my bedroom. The friend asked me what was wrong. I said "i want my mammy" I got myself hunched up and felt real sorry for myself.(Sorry i digress here)

I have now stopped my counselling as I am now trying my own things out e.g. by going out and joing things to make friends, have had a bit of flirting go on etc etc. with some girls. By no means am I stopping my counselling- i still want to go back and talk a bit more - for me its what is working at the moment. I am also trying to retrain my mind as i think it is full of negative thinking. I have low self esteem. I listen far to much to my "chatterbox" in my head which tells me negative things.
But i have started to change little things which actually make me feel better about myself. So i have started to take a small few steps. Yippee!

Questions: (!)
I was asked when did i last cry? You know - i don't know. I certainly would like to have a good old fashioned cry. I would like to cry for myself, for my spirit and soul, my human frailty. I would like to cry for ME.

I am going on for more counselling at some point. Should i mention this to my family/friends? Personally i don't think I can. My parents have had illness's etc and i think they would be truly devastated if i were to say this to them. They have given me a loving family home and support over the years. They even asked us when we were younger if anything ever happened to come and tell them. I remember that time. I remember staying silent. Maybe if i had not; my life today would be different. But hindsight is a great thing. I was only a little boy.

Sexuality - i thought i was gay. I am still not sure. I have only had the male experience of csa to be my defining limit. This was thru my early childhood and teenage years.
I am afraid of intimacy and relationships and going on with my life. BUT there has been some flirting going on (hopefully i have been reading the signals right) with a girl that i know for a while now. So at the moment i am confused with myself. I don't want to do anything yet e.g. ask her out for a date because i want to be more sure of myself and who i am. I don't want to be a lier. I am also terrified that if i start going out with a girl - well at some point there will be the whole intimacy thing. Help! God i have so much baggage!

I do have dreams about having children and being married.(maybe it is a fantasy??). I don't think of myself being close to man and living with him and setting up home so at this stage i am really confused.

So far in life i have expected an angel to tap me on the shoulder and to click their fingers and my life would be okay. I am beginning to realise that is not going to happen and it is me who has to do something.

thanks for reading this. remember true friends and family leave footprints on your heart.
 
hi wonded welcme...yea it does help to know that you are not the only one that feeles this way or have the same thoughts good luck this is a good place steve
 
Wounded,

Welcome to Male Survivor! It sounds like you are in the right place! I'm glad that you found us!

I'm glad to hear that you have started counseling; I'm sure you will return to it when the time is right. It's also great to hear that you are starting to expand your comfort zone around your social life; many of us here have a very difficult time with that. That chatterbox seems to keep us from doing and believing a lot of things that we would benefit from.

I look forward to hearing more about your journey!

Recovery is Possible!

Brian
 
Hi W G,

Welcome to our brotherhood! You've begun a journey that can be very rewarding on many levels. We're now standing with you shoulder to shoulder as you travel the path. You're no longer alone!

Lots of love,

John
 
Hi WG,

I think your thoughts were very together. So much of what you said I could relate to and Im sure many of the guys here could. In fact, as I know many of them here, I know that is true.

It sounds like you have accurately identified so many areas of your life that have been affected by your csa. You have also been seeing a therapist and youve found this board and signed up. These are all good things. I see only great, forward progress for you!

I know it may not feel like that at times but seeing how things have affected you if half the battle. Stick around. Welcome friend!
 
Hello all - thanks for your messages of welcome, support and friendship. My heart was thumping when i logged in !!! THis is another positive thing i have done. woundedgazelle
 
:)

Glad we could be here for this moment! It's so awesome to know that you're feeling support and friendship. That's what this place is designed to be. A place where folks like you and me can find answers to our heartaches in safety. Where we can begin and perhaps even complete our journey of healing.

Lots of love,

John

[edited to add]

As mentioned by Cooljule, a Weekend of Recovery retreat is a great place to Get a jumpstart on recovery. You can access information about the weekends by clicking the links on the homepage. :)
 
Hi; thanks for your messages. I am glad i found this website. Even looking around and reading the different stories gives a different slant/view on things especially the responses from guys who have started therapy. It gives you more confidence even in the fact that we step out from our own protective concoon on this website. I suppose each of us gets caught up in our own little world and goes around in circles. wounded gazelle....
 
I suppose each of us gets caught up in our own little world and goes around in circles. wounded gazelle....
Yup! You speak a truth. This place is excellent at helping us break out of that circle and see things for what they really are.

Lots of love,

John
 
WG,

I had a major crash (emotionally) after my session with my therapist last week. I completely shut down. My poor wife ended up asking me after 2 days of me not saying much at all what was going on. I told her I was very upset and was trying to deal with things by shutting down. Its how I cope.

Im better now, but sometimes my sessions can affect me like that. You mentioned you appreciated hearing how T sessions went. Well, just keeping it real (and honest).

Chat soon.
 
Hello all,
- hi Grunty 1967b; i have been missing for a few days so just catching up with postings now.
Sorry to hear you had an emotional crash - glad to hear you are getting through it - sounds like you have a wife who cares for you which is really good.
I would expect T sessions can be like a seesaw some times - you can go out on a high or a low depending on what is happening. I mentioned that i went for some counselling last year (my god we are at the end of jan already !!!)i have stopped them for a number of reasons; my T asked some questions which i was'nt ready to answer; i wanted to work out some of the answers myself; he was quite expensive and I can't go all the time; and i did not entirely feel "right" with him if you know what i mean. What i did learn is that i don't think i have a problem talking when I am in a forum like that; but it is to keep going on till you are happy with someone - so its a bit of a learning curve.
My workplace is offering an employee program; where you can access counselling which is quite new; lots of my colleagues were laughing about it; so i had to as well; but secretly i was thinking ...mmmhhhhh i might give it a ring. I am still trying to motivate myself to make that call. I am going to plug for a session away in the next town from where i Live; as i have been out and met my T around on the streets and i just die from embarrassment!!and try to avoid him when i see him. Strange. Does this happen anyone else?

On another query :- for the guys who are getting therapy/counselling is it better to go for a guy therapist or a lady therapist? Any thoughts? Personally at the moment I am leaning towards a guy therapist; as he would have the guy angle;and understanding; and for me i would prefer someone closer to my own age as well. Mind you a lady therapist would have the female angle.

Also had to listen to indept conversations about CSA around the dinner table. God I hate that. You know where people start talking about it as a general subject. always makes me feel uncomfortable. wounded gazelle keep smiling
 
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