Hello; possible triggers

Hello; possible triggers

flying

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Hello,

I am new here. A brief description of my experiences: my mom flirted with me and acted, said inappropriate things to me from a very early age until I moved out at 18. My stepdad was very crude, spoke about women in a nasty way, would tell me to get laid or look at those tits. Showed me porn, gave me a nude calendar of women when I was in 4th grade. A boy who was 13 when I was 10 had sex with animals in front of me, masturbated in front of me, masturbated a dog and horses in front of me, tried to have sex with my friend.

A next door neighbor, who was the foster parent of the 13 year old, would have boys over to go in his hot tub naked. He would pinch our butts, I had to give him a back rub once and he only had his towel on. He would show us movies with overt sexuality. I ended up testifying against him in court related to something that happened to one of my friends.

When I was 13 or 14 an 18 year old guy befriended me. One night he told me to open my mouth and he put a pill in it. The pill was ecstacy. He started talking with me about homosexuality. My dad pulled up at this point and I left. Another night he gave me alcohol, got in a hot tub, gave me a back rub, I gave him one. He said I was too drunk to go home, demanded that I spend the night. I wouldn't, so he went into a rage. I left though.

When I was 13 or 14 I was riding the train across the by myself and I was befriended by a guy in his 50s. He was very nice, gave me cigarettes, and we talked late into the night in the observation car. He started talking about sexual things, what would I do if I woke up and some guy was sucking my dick? I said I don't know. He put his hand on my thigh. I jumped up, and went to the bathroom. He was waiting for me outside the bathroom, smiling. I got away and went to my seat, and never saw him again.

I have struggled with depression, shame, and sexuality issues for my life. I am and have been more attracted to women through out my life, but I am attracted to guys at times. This causes great shame, and I call myself gay. When I was young I froze up my sexuality so I wouldn't get hurt.

I am married for 20 years and have 2 kids. My wife knows about everything, but I still go through depression and shame. I want to get past this.

Thanks for reading.
 
Hi Flying,

Thanks for your courage in posting. I'm so sorry for the circumstances that brought you to this forum, but I'm grateful you found us. We have all had different experiences, but we can all relate to the desire to get past the pain caused by CSA. Keep writing.
 
Hi Flying

Thanks for your post and welcome to MS. It took a lot of courage to come and share your story with us. You will find there are lots of guys on MS that can relate to you pain and suffering. I am so for what brought you here. I am glad you came and posted.
Esterio
 
Hi flying,

Thanks for being willing to share your story. It’s not easy to open up and be honest with yourself and others but it seems to be the common path forward.

I can relate to a lot of what you are going through. The events you mentioned were understandable traumatic for you. It takes time to sort out all the feelings and thoughts about who we are in light of what we went through.

Having sexual attraction to other guys doesn’t always mean that you re gay. Sexual abuse causes a lot of confusion and uncertainty.

Being exposed to what you have been exposed to growing up is going to creates a lot of uncertainty and confusion. This is not the same thing as sexual orientation. Sexual confusion and uncertainty is just part of what happens to a lot of us who were sexually abused and exposed to unsafe sexual exploitation.

Being gay is completely okay. But that really neither here nor there.

Feeling like you’re sexually has been hi jacked is the problem most of us here have to deal with in one form or another. These feelings are a lot less about our sexual orientation and much more about what happened to us.

It took me quite a while to sort out my internalized homophobia but once I did my depression went away completely and allowed me to accept what I have been through. Feelings are neither right or wrong but when we turn on ourself because we believe a feeling we have is unacceptable and or too frightening to understand, we become the enemy unto ourself. It’s a self building trap.

I was depressed for many years. Talking about it is what helps.

Welcome to this place
 
Thank you SmartShadow. I totally agree that having my sexuality hijacked is what happened. All these people pushed their sexuality onto me before I was old enough to figure things out for myself.

I know that I have internalized homophobia, I think I associate any attractions for guys with being like the guys who tried to take advantage of me. I know that isn't what being gay is, but that's what got put into my head through my experiences.

When I let my feelings in I am not confused at all. I know what I like and I enjoy appreciating beautiful people (almost exclusively women). It's just a judgemental voice comes in my head sometimes and says, "You're gay, you're a liar, you're a bad person, you are disgusting." I am working to say goodbye to this voice.
 
Hey flying - WELCOME to MS,

it took bravery and courage to open up so honestly about your fears and emotions as a result of all those sex related inappropriate acts. Hopefully that will make sorting all this out a bit easier. Putting everything on the line, so to speak, makes healing and recovery much easier.

Testifying in court can be pretty traumatic and you should be proud of yourself that you followed through. Best wishes, I’m glad you’ve joined us as we continue on the journey of healing.
 
flying said:
I think I associate any attractions for guys with being like the guys who tried to take advantage of me. I know that isn't what being gay is, but that's what got put into my head through my experiences.

This makes a lot of sense. I remember how totally threatening it was for me to feel like I was, in any way, like any of my abusers. It's crazy how much we can internalize this stuff. It sure got all twisted up in my head.

Congratulations on how much you understand about who you are and why you're here. That's no small thing.

Looking forward to talking more.
See you around
 
flying -

welcome to MS. i have found this place and these men to have been very helpful in my healing journey.

i notice you are in Ohio. if you are close enough, there is a peer support group for survivors in the NE that you may be interested in. if you want more info, send me a PM.

Lee
 
Hi flying - and welcome. As we say in here, we're glad you found us but sad for what brings you in here in the first place.
This is a safe place an you'll discover there are all kinds of guys here who will walk with you on this broken road. We're here beside you. Not ahead or behind - but next to you as brothers in this.
Keep coming back......
 
Flying--

This a really good, supportive, and SAFE community. Most all of my abuse has been centred on my race (or one of them, but when you're mixed, you become 100% whichever is worse), people here know that (being the driver of my abuse, it's inevitable that it comes up often) and it doesn't colour others' treatment of me at all, which has never happened before in all the years I've been in the US.

That's how good this community is. When you're welcomed here, you really are welcomed.

You've come to the right place.
 
Flying

Welcome and sorry you have to be here. You have dealt with much over the years from the CSA and the emotional abuses in the home. People do not realize negative and demeaning talk impacts a child's perceptions of themselves and the world. The shame and guilt were the most difficult for me to shake--it controlled and allowed others to push me to depression, suicidal thoughts and periods of dissociative fugues. In time once I accepted the abuse was not my fault I began to shake the negative effects of the abuse. It takes time, sharing helps.

Write when you feel safe, need to vent or just to help you put everything in perspective. MS does not judge, we all lived it and we may react differently but we carry the pain.

Kevin
 
Hi flying,

Great screen name!

I was scared when I started reading about your experience on the train. I know just how bad those encounter are. I am so glad you got away!

Again I am reading how abuse scrambled our ability to discern our sexuality for ourselves. I really relate to that. I am sorry you had to freeze your growth.

Good luck. I hope you find MS the powerful community that I have.

-Bri
 
Thanks Bri, I still get triggered by having sexual feelings. It sparks shame, then I freeze up. I'm working on this.
 
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