gotta take the trip

gotta take the trip

seaotter

Registrant
I have been coming here for only a few months now, but already I have come to love each and every one of you. Regrettably, all things come to an end one day, and this is one of those days.

I intended to write a letter, to those who used me, but whats the use?

My time is running out fast, for my body is failing and I cannot stand the pain any longer.
My immunesystem is gone and no hope in this life remains, so, for the first time in my life I am gonna end the pain.

By no means do I intend to hurt or cause grief to any of you, or anyone at all, but it has to end, please understand and forgive me for that. And please respect my desicion, I was not an easy one.

to those who I have come to know better than most:
I will miss you guys, but it wont be long before we meet again, just dont do as I do,k?
Dan, Gaby, Al, cog, anyone I leave out, take cares and stay well.
And, Al, your time is not here yet buddy, I heard yesterday what happened, and if you are still here, bide a wee, its not too bad at times and dont do this to marc? please, that hug I promissed, I will save it for you up yonder, but I dont wanna see you just yet!
gonna miss you though
all of you

be well and stay well

Gunnar,

gotta go home boys,

see you there
 
seaotter,
STOP! if you are thinking of taking your own life. get ahold of a crisis hotline, now!!!! if i am misreading something forgive me, but your post is the most frightening thing i have ever run across in my life. :confused:
 
To all:

Gunnar Einarson died today. His body gave up, long before he did, though reality came to him this morning. It took him great effort to write above message, and though he indeed intended to end his suffering by his own hand, he lacked the physical strenght to do so. there was no need too, God called him away for He must have known it had been too much already. He died peacefully in his bed, and he was not scared, we prayed and talked, we said our goodbyes. He is gone ahead to a better place, and he will await us there.
He will be dearly missed, but God takes care of him now, and there can be no doubt, He will do a much better job than any of us could ever do.

He left me to care about some outstanding issues, involving some of you here, feel free to contact me at any time. We all lost a very dear friend, collegue, mentor and and boy so much wiser than the count of his years. only God knows why all this had to happen, dont expect an explanation, please.


Ethan.
 
Gunnar, Seaotter, will be missed by us all.

He gave us a great deal of support and help, and I know the world was a better place because he had the strength to be a survivor.

Dave
 
hotel kiosk no spell checker

Otter,

Self imposed exile is not the answer, neither is taking your own life. I've tried both, fortunitly I was unsuccessful at the latter. But every successful at the former, I've had to step back from NOMSV but I'm not cutting people out of my life, it's something I know I can do, but it wont fix anything.

if you want to talk, offer stands.

Brian.
 
Something to remember Gunnar by.

I knew a boy once, just a little boy.

Doing what all boys do, liking what every boy likes and playing and exploring that great new thing, which the world is to little boys.

Now this was a good boy, kind and thoughtful to the needs of others.

No matter what, he always did his best, and surely he never missed a day in school, yes, this was a good boy, for sure.

Worked when he was supposed to, and played whenever he could, in a little boys world, filled with horses, soldiers, knights and pirate ships, pledges of life-long friendships and an open mind to all things around him.

Yes, to all who saw this boy it seemed a sight to behold, that boy who was all that embodied boyhood itself, those beautiful few years of summer days in fields of clover, the years of wonder.

The old men looked at this boy and thought back to their own fainting memories of those long bygone times, that for sure seemed to get more like heaven every day.

And too, this boy had his fears, of monsters under the bed, ghosts and boy-eating giants, mean old dragons and crocodiles and tigers.

But this boys fears were no fantasies, no glimpses of imagination nor the dreams that stem from grandmas scary tales of wolves and trolls.

No, this boys fears were all too real, so was his hunger. His wounds did not bleed imaginary blood, nor was the terror that climbed into his bed, a ghost or just a bad dream. That embodiment of fear was his dad, his brother, a neighbour, a foster, a friend of the family, a Minister, a teacher or whatever form evil chose to appear in.

This was a very scared and confused, hurting little boy, so scared and ashamed nobody could ever know, for what was going on? He sure did not know, he just did not understand what and why that happened, what was wrong with him? For that he knew, something was wrong.

And surely it could not be the adult, for adults are always right. Right?

So was forged the ball and chain of shame, the imprisonment of a young mind, the torture of memory, the dungeons of evil open wide and deep for this boy, and although he tried to get hold of whatever he could hold on to, the drop down seemed to never stop.

Like running the gauntlet, his drop down. Years went by and he encountered the shadows of his past, for sure, he smelled the Sulphur and brimstone, and he saw with his very own eyes the blazing pits of Hell itself.

Then, one day, he hit the bottom. Hard. Face down, as naked and helpless as the day he was born.

He sat up, slowly coming to his senses, so long lost.

As he looked at his battered and bruised body, he suddenly realized he was not a boy anymore, no, he was a full grown man.

He asked himself what happened, and cried over his lost youth.

Suddenly he noticed a boy was standing in front of him.

That boy was he.

He asked the boy what to do, and the boy duly replied that it was not for him to answer a grown up as to what to do,

But he said to the man seek the answers within us and the boy disappeared as suddenly as he had appeared.

He heard a voice saying though I will never leave you, take care of us both.

The man cried, for he had so craved for someone to talk to, after what seemed to be an eternity of loneliness.

But as he sat there, whining and moaning his misery, he realized what it was, that the lost boy had meant.

He stood up, and he knew just what to do.

He was going to fight, and set that boy inside him, free.

As a clarity of his mind, like nothing he ever had known came over him, he realized he was still down in that dark pit.

He looked up, but nowhere could he see the light of day.

He felt the walls, but no door was there.

He felt the floor, but no way out he could find.

Then that old feeling of disheartening came over him again, and he was about to give up when he saw a flash before his eyes

He saw himself, long ago, in agony.

This very sight filled him with a rage,

A rage only the truthful can feel,

And with a battle cry no ordinary man could ever holler out,

He tore down the walls of his prison with his bare hands and the strength of his mind.

He was free.

His dark confinements had changed into a field of blooming clover, and roe deer and wild creatures grazing and roaming therein, all was there, like Noahs ark it seemed, and a stream as clear as Silver ran through it. All was there,

all, but fear or evil.

Never had he encountered such beauty, and as he stood in this field, he felt as if he was born again.

But he knew, what evil was now. Oh, yes. He knew alright.

But there, that day on which he learned the true meaning of the word freedom,

He swore a solemn oath:

I will not bow my head, nor shall I live in bondage.

Never again shall I allow evil to rule my mind, my body nor anything that is mine,

For it was given to me, and now as I behold that which was denied me for so many a year,

I know

There are things worse than dieing.

I shall prefer to fall to the hand of any man who would deny me all this which is good and beautiful,
rather than to ever submit again.

For I know now, Lord God, what precious gift you have given me.

I shall prove worthy of it.

He saw then, the boy, which he once had been,

Playing and running free in the field, a sight to behold.

A smile on his face.

And he knew,

He had set his past and future free


-------------------------------------------------
Be well and stay well,

Gunnar
***************************************************

Dave
 
Thank you for filling us in Ethan.

Gunnar the Seaotter was & still is an inspiration to me even in the brief time I've known him.

Seaotter I salute you, and I'll see you on the other side my brother.

Thank you.

Victor
 
I have lost another hero..
 
I have not cried in years but I am crying for you now gunnar. I will miss you and I only can hope that you find the peace in death that you never found in this life. I will miss you always will be in my prys always I love you gunnar.
 
seaotter shows us how powerful this forum is. I think that many of us will need to grieve our loss. Gunnar has shown us that awful harm done to a boy who is not only violated, betrayed, used as a sex toy, but also photographed and exploited on the www.

I sent seaotter some private messages becuase his sorrow so touched me. Only the last time did he use the name Gunnar. He was so horrified that he had been shown a picture of himself as a kid, naked and crying.

His pain hit me hard. I had a very false idea of Gunnar. I saw him as a young, healthy man, who had decided that he would not let his past haunt him. I had no idea he had a terminal illness. I guess he did not want to worry us or get lots of symathy.

I will write to find out just a tad more, to know just little more of the young man I came to love and admire so much.

When a person is in extreme pain we do not think clearly sometimes. All he really wanted was to be free of the gut wrenching pain. For me, I now have a new pain, one I had no idea I would ever feel.

Peace to us all. We need to feel our loss and handle it in whatever way we can best do so.

Much love to all you guys. You know that you are truly loved, even though we could pass each other on the streets and not recognize each other. This truly is a brotherhood. We have happy days, days of victory and days of grief. But together we can help each other deal with whatever is going on this day.

Let us pray, if you are a praying person both for Gunnar and his friend and our brother, Mr Edd who is needing our love today.

Bob
 
Ethan:

Seaotter and I talked together a great deal privately on the chat line on the second day that I was here at Male Survivor. He gave me such support and so much encouragement to finally face the truth of my childhood abuse and to become a healing Survivor and an Activist against male sexual victimization. To Gunnar/Seaotter my most solemn benediction. May your essence, your soul, be filled now with all the joy, peace and happiness that can be received in eternity. May you finally be released from all your pain, and may you enjoy forever the presence and the love of the One who shall reward you for all the love you gave and all the good you did in this world. This world was only just a proving ground and a school of preparation, equipping you for the glories which were to lie ahead. The glories in which now rejoice.

With much sorrow and much love, Sincerely, Jess.
 
It is funny how god knows what we need ... even before we ask. Today I was driving down the road there were two songs on the radio that made me think of my father. I was going to post them under music tonight in memory of him. I will post them hear instead. Sea Otter is with God now.... but his memory will remain forever in our hearts.

The first song I want to publish is "Holes in the floor of heaven." Whenever it rains we can think of our loved ones that have passed .... knowing they are with us always. This song gives me comfort. I hope it does the same for you.

Collin Raye - Holes In The Floor Of Heaven


One day shy of eight years old,
When grandma passed away.
I was a broken hearted little boy,
Blowing out that birthday cake.
How I cried & cried when the sky let go,
With a cold lonesome rain.
My momma smiled, said: "Don't be sad child.
"Grandma's watching you today."

"'Cos there's holes in the floor of Heaven,
"And her tears are pouring down.
"That's how you know she's watching,
"Wishing she could be here now.
"An' sometimes if you're lonely,
"Just remember she can see.
"There's holes in the floor of Heaven
"And she's watching over you and me."

Seasons come and seasons go,
Nothing stays the same.
I grew up, fell in love,
Met a girl who took my name.
Year by year, we made a life,
In this sleepy little town.
I thought we'd grow old together,
Lord, I sure do miss her now.

But there's holes in the floor of Heaven,
And her tears are pouring down.
That's how I know she's watching,
Wishing she could be here now.
An' sometimes when I'm lonely,
I remember she can see.
There's holes in the floor of Heaven,
And she's watching over you and me.

Well my little girl is 23,
I walk her down the aisle.
It's a shame her Mom can't be here now,
To see her lovely smile.
They throw the rice, I catch her eye,
As the rain starts coming down.
She takes my hand; says: "Daddy don't be sad,
'Cos I know Mama's watching now."

"And there's holes in the floor of Heaven
"And her tears are pouring down.
"That's how you know she's watching,
"Wishing she could be here now.
"An' sometimes when I'm lonely,
"I just remember she can see.
"Yes, there's holes in the floor of Heaven,
"And she's watching over you and me."

Watching over you and me.

Watching over you and me.

Watching over you and me.
The other song I think is fitting is Angles Among Us. I know we are sad that he is gone. But it is possible he can help us with our strugle more from where he is at. A place where there is only peace.

ANGLES AMONG US

By: ALABAMA

I was walking home from school on a cold winter day
Took a shortcut through the woods, and I lost my way
It was getting late, and I was scared and alone
But then a kind old man took my hand and led me home
Mama couldn't see him, oh but he was standing there
And I knew in my heart, he was the answer to my prayers

Chorus:
Oh I believe there are angels among us
Sent down to us from somewhere up above
They come to you and me in our darkest hours
To show us how to live, to teach us how to give
To guide us with the light of love

When life held troubled times, and had me down on my knees
There's always been someone to come along and comfort me
A kind word from a stranger, to lend a helping hand
A phone call from a friend, just to say I understand
And ain't it kind of funny at the dark end of the road
That someone lights the way with just a single ray of hope

Chorus

They wear so many faces, show up in the strangest places
To grace us with their mercy, in our time of need

Chorus

To guide us with a light of love
I remember a poem that my sister read when a teacher we both had and loved in school died after a long battle with cancer. I was in the 6th grade when this teacher died. She had been my 4th grade teacher. It is a simple poem but I have remembered it all these years. It helped me to understand why God had taken my favorite teacher.

I know we'd like to keep her/him here,
but she/he was lent not given,
and now her/his time has come at last
and god needs her/him back in heaven.
John
 
My thoughts go out to all here who are suffering the loss of Gunnar or any loved one.

My thoughts go out to MrEdd and Al that they may find healing and hope.

jer
 
Ethan wrote:
It took him great effort to write above message...
We were honored that Gunnar took the time to share with us and say his goodbye's to us here at MaleSurvivor. I'm proud of him for showing us/me his strength and caring to do this.

Thank you Gunnar wherever you are now. Thank you Ethan for letting us know and my thoughts go out to you in your time of grieving and loss.

He died peacefully in his bed, and he was not scared, we prayed and talked, we said our goodbyes.
And he was not scared to take the next big step we all face. A reminder to myself that life is so short... I was watching a documentary last night about a movie producer/director filming a moive in the Amazon jungle about manhandling a river boat over a hill to another river. A monumental effort. While thinking about Gunnar, my life and this forum, the producer said this at the end of filming having meet with partial success -

"I did this because facing the fear of failure is better than facing the fear of a lifetime of regret".

No regrets Gunnar! You faced your end like a man.

and he was not scared,
and he was not scared.

jer
 
Words have no meaning! Gunnar was my friend. He Wanted to help me (money wise), and he didnt know me! I learnt alot about my friend in chat the other night when we shared stories, that was the first time i told anyone! Gunnar was specail to me, now he's gone!

He told me he had just finished writing his book, based on his life, and abuse! He never told me what it was called. I hope his book get published. This ones for you my friend!

Elliot.
 
We all could not help but love Sea, I found it sad that within the many dark moments I have been enduring lately I wasn't able to hear him more. His strength is the true spirit of our group. He died as not a victim but as a survivor. And we all deserve to feel good about that. Lyrrad, thanks for delivering for us. I love you all and his memory will most certainly not go to waste here.
 
I am so profoundly sad. my chest is heaving. I am dying inside. I am crying. This hurts so bad. The last time I talked to seaotter, I got offended at something he said to me and I told him so.
He was there for me in some of the most horrible times of my life and he lifted me up. He inspired me. He wrote one of the most inspiring poems on my post - a post that was difficult for me to write. He was there in the chat room when I wrote it, and He was there to support me and tell me we proud of me for writing what I did. He told me I had a lot of courage. I looked up to him. He told me , "You are loved, my friend." He remembered me (of all people) in his final farewell.

I wanted to reconcile with him for me getting mad at something he said. Oh it hurts so bad. I feel like I am dying inside. Now I can't reconcile with him. I know he only had goodness in his soul when he said what he said to me. I know he didn't mean to make me mad. He was trying to help me to heal. He was always trying to help us heal. It hurts so much, that I can't talk to him anymore and share in his wisdom. And partake of his bounteous wise words that stir the soul. I can barely breathe now. The emotions are so raw.
I am so sorry seaotter that you had so much misery-- and so much pain. You treated me with such kindness, and compassion.
If you are listening, I want you to know that I consider you a true friend. I wish we could have met and talked face to face as friends do. I wanted to tell you that you did help me to heal and you did so much good for me. I wanted to share my achievements with you. You were always there listening and you encouraged me. I am sorry for getting angry.

This hurts so bad. I have no other way to express it. I am barely breathing. I am choking, and crying. Tears are continually flowing down my face. They won't stop.

Seaotter, I can only say this in parting, "YOU ARE LOVED, MY FRIEND!"
 
I never knew Seaotter but just reading these messages of love and comfort I can see/feel that he IS greatly loved by all.

I say IS as I feel that his spirit will remain with us here always. I will remember him for all days as I have cried over someone I never knew and I feel a tremendous sense of loss.....a feeling.... I have experienced very few feelings over the last couple of decades.

So thank you Seaotter, just thank you.

Wherever you are I wish you peace.

And all that was left was hope.

Archnut
 
Back
Top