GOOD STUFF-What did I in the Past 24 hoursfor me and the little me.

GOOD STUFF-What did I in the Past 24 hoursfor me and the little me.

Mike Church

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Last night I went to the Auto show on here in Toronto. I sat in all the cars I wanted to. I daydreamed in the Jaguars, BMWs, Merecedes. I introduced the little me to all the latest stuff and had a ball doing it for both of us. My nextdoor neighbour Dave went with me. Our families have lived together next door since 1985. He is one of few people who knows my story. I feel safe wtih DAVE adn he is so full of life it is greqat to be with him.
AFterwards we ate at Harvey's (something like a burger King or McDonalds or Wendys) except that the hamburgers are barbequed in the old fashion way. Now I am on a restricted eating program (by desire) but last might I said screw it Double cheese burger with onion rings fries and a coke.
Me and the little me had a great time.
When I got home I poured my wife a shery. I dont drink as I am in AA (26 years) and we went outside and sat and talked in our hot tub. All three of us Nicole(wife) me, and the little me.
Now come on guys add to this post. As someone else said (I think Waumei) good news can be infectious. Lets hear the laughter and joy that you can share.
 
Today, Big V & Little V watched some Tom & Jerry and Acme Hour cartoons. We do this pretty often.

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Wednesday night we went to the swimming pool. I had my water aerobics class. I've been trying to make it more playful but it's difficult for me. Well, Wednesday a mother was there with her 11 year old girl. The whole class was more playful, and it was great!

Afterwards, my wife and I ate at the fantastic (real) Mexican restaurant in town. All three of us really loved that, as usual!

Tomorrow, maybe a good funny movie matinee or rental!

Actually, Big V does a lot more with Little V than
I thot.

I guess I'm finally just becoming aware of it, of him. Bout time!

Victor
 
Thanks Mike! What a great outing you and your little child had! I love the fact that you purposely took him to share in some of the experiences he lost out on because of an interrupted childhood.

I had some similar experiences a few years back. Before I started to deal with the truth of my childhood sexual abuse. Unfortunately, I had just gone through a divorce after being married for 10 years. I know now that many of my problems (if not all of my social/psychological problems) stemmed from the fact that I never faced up to my abuse and never told anyone. I never told my ex-wife, and that was really bad, but I could not speak of it until now. I know you guys understand what I felt there.

After my divorce, I started to share a house on the American River with 2 other guys I knew from a new church I started attending. I was spiritually starved and these were some solid Christian brothers I could trust. These trustworthy brothers helped me through a lot of the pain, guilt, shame and suffering of the divorce. Had I been able to deal with it then I would have trusted them with my story of childhood sexual abuse, but I could not speak then. Too bad. I am sure they would have been very supportive and they probably may have even had similar experiences. Who knows.

One of the things that was obvious is that I never had a happy childhood. I couldn't tell them why (because my inner child was paralyzed from the trauma of the abuse) but they seemed to understand that I lost out on a lot of normal childhood experiences. So they started a campaign to giving me the experiences I would have received had I had a happy childhood. They taught me how to ride a bike (yeah, believe it or not at 36 I did not know how to ride a 10-speed). After that, I started riding my bike every morning before getting ready for work. I rode 10 miles each morning and on weekends I went to see my cousin across town and rode 32 miles on Saturdays. I got pretty good on my bike and I started to get in better shape. I even entered a little bicycle race which was a fund raiser for many charities.

Next they took me out fishing and taught me how fly fish. My casting wasn't too bad (so they told me). Then they took me out target practicing and shooting a rifle and a handgun. this was the first for me. I never even held a rifle in my hands before. Target practice was so much fun. They even took me out camping and hiking. After that I used to do it alone and got great satisfaction in being able to "recharge my batteries" so to speak from the solitude and prayer and reflection I was able to do, by being alone.

Wow! Even though I didn't expressly do this as a means of recovery from the childhood sexual abuse, it was a form of therapy which included my little inner child and I really felt that many of the large gaps which were created in my childhood because of the sa were finally closed and connected.

So, Mike, thanks for sharing what you did. I am now encouraged in my old age to specifically go out and personally invite my inner child to join me in some great "guy stuff" recreation I can do with him so that he can experience some happiness and joy. I have no doubt that this will add to my healing and eventual recovery.

I also like that the "two of you" invited your trusted friend to join you in the fun. I am going to do the same and ask one of my trusted friends to join "us" for some great "guy stuff" fun and entertainment.

After I do, I'll report some of the joy we experienced together.

Thanks again, Mike, for sharing these great thoughts and ideas. Boy! I am always learning new ways of promoting some great self-help therapy from the stories the Brothers post here.

Looking forward to hearing from some of the other Brothers and reading their replies.

Sincerely, Jess.
 
Before my abuse ever started, at 9 yo, my Dad taught me to drive in an army surplus jeep by sitting on his knee and steering. But being a tall skinny kid I soon reached the pedals and I was away. He also showed me how to strip and rebuild engines, weld and generally do mechanical stuff.

Tomorrow morning I'm off to a breakers yard to get some parts for my new 4x4, so the mornings being spent lying on my back in the mud and oil struggling with rusty bolts and losing plenty of knuckles.
In the afternoon I'm driving a 130 mile round trip to my mates garage to get some mud tyres fitted to my wheels.

Back to my childhood tomorrow then !!
Dave :D :D
 
Jess, Lloyd, Waumei, wow isn't it great. Another revalation. We did not know it but we were doing stuff for the little guy inside us all. Stripping an engine. With I adhd I could probably strip it and believe me putting it back together would be my downfall. Got to think too much.
Lloyd learning to ride a bike go fishing and camping out with some trusted friends. What a blast I do it too. Not so much fishing. It is boring. Now ask me to go hunting in scuba gear for a Great White. Well that would certainly be exciting. What you gotta do now is get yourself a sturdy trail bike (peddle power) and bang yourself up on hills. NOw that is a rush.
Waumei it is great to here about Ton & Jerry and water aerobics. I think you teach it right. Give little vic a bit more control and see what happens. I really do think playing can be infectious.
The realization that the little us has played a bigger part than we thought tells me that we were trying to do something but could not quite put our finger on it. LET HIM OUT INTO THE SUNLIGHT. I know the pleasure it will give us.
I sure hope we get other posts. Wouldnt it be great if we all became overgrown goofballs. And I say WHY Keep it coming. Reading what my BROTHERS write really gives me a high. My wife just walked by and cant understand why I was giggling along with little mike at the fun you all so obviously had. Tanke care and HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. Memember kick ass when the past starts to wiggle in. Better yet let the little you do some ass kicking. God I feel great tonite
 
I went out to dinner at Applebees. I ordered the Appitizer sampler platter. 100% UNHEALTHY food. but 200% satisfying. Nacho's Ribs, Quesida's, Motzeralla sticks.

Actually, there was enough food that I can have the ribs for lunch tomorrow.

and besides ..... I don't get my cholosterol checked for another month.

:p

John
 
Thanks Guys for sharing. I keep a diary and have done for the last four years on a daily basis. I hasten to add that i am not Samuel Pepys.

Getting in touch with the little me. This was my first and best attempt at trying to reach the young me. It was very painful writing this but as they say:

"The touchstone of growth is pain" :eek: I hate pain

I hope this/that makes sense.


21st May
Slept well. Shaved, bathed and showered all by 10.00 and after breakfast we left for town. I took the book Nanin with me to loan to Liza also remembered to take my letter to my inner child. Arrived at Frankwell and they are getting on with the river defences. Took a slow walk up Axis where I left Margaret (she's off to do her bits). Went into the usual room where Liza asked, “how I was”? I replied “ok” but owned up to feeling like a naughty schoolboy that had rushed his homework. I wasn't sure how this was going to go. With my pulse banging in my head I started:

“Hi

How you feeling? Ok after our last meeting hopefully. The only thing I ask of you at the moment is just to hear what I have to say to you. It's very hard for me to do this as I feel I have let you down all of my life. I have denied your rightful existence and I have done nothing to aid you back to that place where you feel happy and loved. I have over the years grown apart from you and again denied your rightful place in my life………….I am so sorry, I should have been there for you but I hid behind my many masks not even considering your feelings of being alone, frightened and angry. And by heck you have everything to be angry about. The masks are many and varied they have been my aid for the last thirty or so years. It was they that helped me survive. The only way I knew how. I wanted to be someone different and be somewhere else. So I used to change the way I feel and become that feeling or a physical manifestation of it. Be that masculine or feminine, happy or sad, stable, disturbed or psychotic. I became who ever I wished in drink I could be anyone as long it wasn't the real me. I hated myself for feeling the way I did. I have just finished a book by the name of "Nanin' and within the first two paragraphs. I thought what the hell was going on. This author was talking about himself within his mother's womb and could feel the abuse that was dished out to his mother and his yet unborn twin sister. After this bout of abuse he could feel his other half slipping away into death and that feeling of being totally alone must have been overwhelming. How the hell did he manage to get back that far? I couldn't make sense of the book until the very end when everything fell into context and was complete. I can see how I let you down I wasn't there when you needed me most just to comfort you and let you know that I was there for you. I left you alone, totally alone for so many years that is now imperative that I re-establish contact with you. I have to get to know the younger me and I need your help and understanding of what I am about to say. I know I have let you down but I am just warning you that those closest to you will let you down as well. They will not be there for you when you need them. I cannot change the future but I can influence the path you follow if you so wish. I can give you the hope that you will survive through the years and you will come to the place where I am now. I can begin to forgive myself as to what I did and let happen to me. It wasn't my fault I was a vulnerable child that had lost his best friend two or three years earlier. I had been betrayed by those older than me including Dad, Mum and Grandma who will blame you in the not too distant future for the death of Mum. I know your isolation and I can understand why. Plus I also remember the day that Granddad died. You were betrayed there not by him but by the thoughts and the doubts that remain with you for the best part of your adult life. Those thoughts and doubts were put there for a reason, unfortunately by others who wished to corrupt you for life so you would be theirs for the rest of your days, under their control wherever you go they will be there inside your head twenty four hours a day three hundred and sixty five days a year. What am I trying to say?…………………….. I suppose what I'm trying to say is this. I promise I will try and remain faithful to you and your memory, never again to doubt you, your feelings and fears. Fear as I have learnt is that which remains unknown, no direction a nothingness its like being lost in a dessert with out the aid of the stars and without hope of being discovered. I'm sorry for leaving you in that dessert and I have switched on the starlight and told others to be on the look out. My mind is now asking me what have I to look out for?………… ME. You will recognise me eventually as being you and you now know that you are no longer on your own and I wish to get to know you again. One thing I can give you is a sense of peace whenever you want it, you have already discovered it in fact not very long ago in Byfleet Library. What's that you ask? If I said to you Roman soldiers would you know what I was on about? You would “plus others like the Spartans and Egyptians”. Well I can tell you with great authority that one day you will be an archaeologist you just have to hang on to your dreams as without them we are nothing. You will even work on a mosaic that as lain hidden for best part of two thousand years and you are the very first to see it in all those years. It is here amongst these people will you no longer feel worthless and you will no longer doubt your own abilities. I just hope the time I'm spending with you will enable you to deal with in a better way than I did. As I said I cannot change the future but I can change the present. At the moment you feel alone, sad and frightened as you feel you're not worth anything. You are everything to me and I need to nurture you through what could be described as shitty times but we will get there I promise. Just hold this thought in your mind and know that “I will never ever leave you again and will remain forever by your side. Never again will I doubt your existence”. I want get to know who the real me is can you help me please? So I am now asking for your help. I pray that you let me in”.

I got as far as mentioning the dessert part and I could feel myself loosing it and began to cry. I carried on till the end by which time I was sobbing. To my surprise Liza was wiping her eyes as well. I said, “your not crying are you?” Liza replied “yes I am, that was a very emotional letter”. I asked for a hug something I have never done before and broke down again.

Not a lot was said really after that, although Liza spoke of the Men's group which she hopes to start during the middle of June and that it will be on a Wednesday afternoon. Liza commented that I was now on my way and next week we are going to rescue me as a little boy. I have to think of a nice safe place where I can tell him to go at anytime he feels threatened. That's my homework for the week. Made an appointment for 11.00hrs next Tuesday. That was that. Margaret was outside and asked me “how it had gone?”. I could feel those tears welling up on me again but managed to control it but I was nearly there. I don't think I'm ready for crying in public just yet.

Trouble is i still dont think he is safe as to why i have no idea.

How do we measure success in recovery?

For me to find perfect peace all i need is a trowel, brush and a trench and Im away with the birdies, what a feeling! To uncover a mosaic was pure magic for the little me, pure joy. :)

And all that was left was hope :)

Archnut :cool:

PS Today (22nd) is the anniversary of my grandfathers death and it still affects me emotionally thirty five years alter as does the six nation rugby which always reminds me of granddad Mick. :(
 
A week ago my son was with me and we decided to fix up his treehouse. Rick and little Rick got carried away and kept working on it long after my son had gone back inside the house!

Today I have a free day. I asked little Rick if he wants to go up to the mountain today to ski. He does. See y'all later!
 
ARCHNUT: What a post.
And I think we thank you for it.
Trouble is i still dont think he is safe as to why i have no idea.
Think about it. THat little gu was in the dark for a long time. It is comfortable for him. He has no way of knowing that coming into the light is a great journey. That is why he feels at risk. It is your feelings about him of not being safe. I dont think that it is his feeling. Just unease at something new.
Check the Post by CHEY-Wy here in this thread.
I went out to dinner at Applebees. I ordered the Appitizer sampler platter. 100% UNHEALTHY food. but 200% satisfying. Nacho's Ribs, Quesida's, Motzeralla sticks.

Actually, there was enough food that I can have the ribs for lunch tomorrow.

and besides ..... I don't get my cholosterol checked for another month.

He did that for both himself and for little CHEY-WY. Totally spontaneous and for both of them.
This is what I mean. We do lots of things that upon reflection are also for the little US. Sounds crazy I know but think about it please, especially when you believe that the universe is swingin out of control and you are the reason. Be gentle on yourself. If the buddy you are sharing a place with is close to you enlist his help. WE ARE ENTITLED TO A BIT OF FUN.
 
Rick: Boy have you got it right. We all hope today is a great one for the two of you. And skiing will give both of you the rush and excitement
 
I want to add that I enjoyed reading the posts on this topic. I have recently tried doing something, and it is quite fun. My Therapist said that successful people reward themselves for their acheivements. I thought about that. That really makes sense. Now, every time I have some sort of success or achievement (it doesn't have to be big -- it could be as simple as making it through a day at the therapist), I go reward myself. I buy music that I have always wanted to buy, I get a milkshake, I find something to enjoy; heck, even Chicken McNuggets sometimes, just soothes the soul. It doesn't have to be something big. And I smile thinking, that I deserve it -- and so does the little me!
 
Arr, the joys of Youth!! Well i may as well add my joys and delights!!

I went to my m8's birthday party last night, i took my gf, and my house m8 and his gf too. It took us 4 hrs to get down there by train from uni!! FUCKING HATE PUBLIC TRASPORT!! Finaly got to the club just after 2230 hrs. and got well drunk!! and had A VERY good time!! Then went back to my parents home to sleep. and they cooked us a LUSH full english brekfast!! Umm!! :p Then we got train back up, the gf's went of to work and me and SPANKY (house m8) went to BegerKing and eat more Junk Food!! then went to Supermarket and got ICE CREAM!! Umm, been having craving for ice cream all week, no idea why thoue! Must be them "Distubed Visions from an Underworld" coming through!!! we also pick up a bottle of wine!! umm, so we are just gona mong out tonite! OH and the Wresling PPV is on tomorow (NO WAY OUT). Umm the Male soap oppeara! So Much fun!! Catch ya all on the flip side!

Elliot!
 
Kirk
the guy who wrote Nanin is an incredible guy, Tony Thornton. I met him a couple of years back, and to my shame I have not read all of his book yet, started but found it hard to cope with. But I feel ready to try again.
Tony is a inspiration to us all.

And I look forward to meeting the young Kirk very soon. ( Kirk and I go to the same group ) I'll bring my young Dave, he needs some company.

Dave
 
Yesterday.
Well I think I have told everyone that I teach Inline skating and inline hockey as a fun thing. Yesterday I went to the inline skating rink where I teach and was a cruiser from 1-4.30pm. That is I helped maintain order on the rink surface. They had 27 birthday parties there. What a blast seeing all those children having a whole lot of fun. Boy was it infectuous. My inlines have a back wheel on each skate that kind of generate electrically flashes of red and green lights. I felt like a real child again. That is little Mike talking. I must have given at least 35 impromptu lessons to kids 6-14. I came home and did the wrong thing. Instead of staying active I lazed around and woke up in the middle of the night with really bad leg cramps. No excuses I did what I tell my students not to do. Dont go home and veg and I didnt eat a banana. Potassium levels. Couldn't spoil how I felt. I got a lot of exercise this morning. 15inches of snow. Americans keep telling us that their storms come from Canada and we tell the reverse to them. But my brothers snow is snow. I was outside shovelling for 2 1/2 hours. Leading up to let you know that Dave, who is a nextdoor neighbour and one of my best friends and I got into a snowball fight. Pretty soon a couple of other guys who were out shovelling got into it too. DAMN IT WAS FUN. Little Mike is now gonna do some of the big Mike Stuff. NIcole(wife) and I are going to a flea market to see what is there and mabye get something.
You my brothers have no idea the pleasure I get from reading this kind of stuff.
 
One thing I have held on to my entire life is flying kites.

There is always at least one in the trunk of my car, and I live very close to the Atlantic shore, so I fly them from April to October. The beach is minutes away from my house.

My nephew is 13, my niece is 4, and they have opened my eyes, and mind, and heart to the child within these past 10 years or so.

Playing games with them, teaching them, I have rediscovered many of the things I liked as a child but gave up along the way.

Watercolors, Stratego, backgammon, dancing when the music moves me, being silly and laughing at nothing until my stomach hurts. The list goes on, but I always remember who is in charge. I try to anyway.

This inner child can be unreasonable, and needs discipline too; as much a loving act as any indulgence can be. RickL referred to this in a recent post, "A day out with the little you", in the Books Forum.

This was also mentioned in a topic a while back. It's worth reading again. The topic is called "Time to Grow Up", and while the concept of discipline for the inner child is presented a little harshly, it's a good point.

https://www.malesurvivor.org/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001268
 
Yesterday little me watched "Harry Potter - The Chamber of secrets" and pigged out on some very expensive ice-cream. :D

And I dont feel guilty for enjoying myself although I do feel that I have put on quite a few pounds. ;)

Heres to "The Lord of the rings - The two towers"
and the next YES gig (in July) :cool:

And all that was left was hope :)

Archnut
 
Kirk
you have to do something wrong before you feel guilty.
Dave ;)
 
Good thread...

Shortly after my wife & I moved out to the country (8 years ago @ 27 y/o), I put in a pool, got a big trampoline & a boat. I even got a dozen real baby chicks, a pony, pigmy goat. This was years before I would begin to deal with the abuse, but I still knew that I was making up for lost time as a kid. My wife & I grew up in what I call "close suburbs", niether of us had anything, or did anything like this as a kid, it was all so forein to us.

After 12 years of marriage we had a son, almost a year ago, our first child. Did someone mention a treehouse??? I can't wait to build a monster of a treehouse with my son by my side, although I know I'll probably get more out of it than he will. I'm already starting to collect hotwheel cars for him, the ones I want! I got a 62 Caddy HEARSE (much to my wife's shagrin), a fleet of Mercedes' & some trucks... I can't wait till he's old enough to play outside with them on the roads & bridges I'll just have to show him how to build...

My son is gonna have the childhood every kid should / 've have / had...if I can help it. I plan to relive my childhood vicarisly (sp) through his, in a healthy way of course.

As you can tell, I have alot to look forward to.

~George~
 
George: Terrific.
Unknowingly all my life since the birth of my daughter Tanya (now 22)I have revelled in the rebirth of things in me that too soon I had buried and locked deep within me. Sitting with my daughter in the evening at the shore of moonlit lake with a slight breeze and having her, in awe, ask me where have all the sparkles come from or the peaceful sighing of a breeze through the leaves of trees. Watching rabbits, deer and other wild creatures in their own universe. Finally understanding why I have always had a strong negative reaction to visiting a ZOO. Tanya asking why are the animals all locked up and how they must be sad to not be free.
 
George thanks for sharing that wonderful uplifting
post! Sounds like you're already doing a great job of parenting--your child, and your inner child! WTG! :cool:

When I was a kid I used to love Hot Wheels and treehouses. Had to use my friends, as I didn't have nay, but it was still fun.

My two girls weren't real interested in either. But it sure was fun raising them & growing up with them. They're both in college now, but not too far away. In fact one's home this week, the other next week.

I still like the rare opportunities to play with other peoples kids tho--at church, around the neighborhood. Little Vic still wants to play and not grow up too fast! :p

Victor


Victor
 
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