For better or for worse...

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For better or for worse...

Hi Everyone. ( I'm new to message boards so forgive me if i'm ignorant of protocol and such)
On April 24th, I discovered that my husband of 5 years was having a telephone relationship with another woman the past 2 years. When I confronted him, he told me she was someone with whom he developed a friendship over the phone with at his job (past). She worked in another office in a different part of the country. He never met her. While he was spilling all of this, the dam completely burst when he blurted out that he had been SA by a neighbor for 4 years when he was a child. I was completely overwhelmed by all of this. Between the relationship with this other woman, and the abuse, i felt my life was shattered. But while this drama was unfolding, my own pain and devastation was eclipsed only by the profound pain that my husband had bore for 37 years of his life that was now spilling out before me. His weeping and total sense of worthlessness, shame, exposure... made me completely put aside my own pain and i wept with him and for him. I never before felt such an tremendous feeling of love and compassion as i did at that moment. There was no question in my mind that i would rededicate myself to him not only as his wife but as his best friend. someone whom he could completely trust, who would never take advantage of him, or let him down or abandon him. He needed me more at that moment than ever before. I know many people would think i was crazy or foolish, but i knew for sure that this man needed an ally desperately. I adore him and want him to see in himself all the beauty and worth that i see in him. He is attending his 2nd therapy session tommorrow. I pray for him every day that he can heal and find peace within himself. I will love and support him always. I have read some of the other posts with partners questioning whether to stay or go. I can only say to think long and hard before deciding to go. think of what your responsibility is to that person/relationship and what they have suffered. ie, the mistrust, loneliness, isolation. unless you're asked to leave, i don't recommend it. they probably need your love and support now, more than ever. As a footnote with regard to frienship with the other woman, he explained it like this. That she was an anonymous person with whom he could dump all his own negative feelings, moods, etc on, while preserving the perfection he felt he had with me. That he didn't want to damage our marriage by letting me see the "dark side". After our initial meeting with our/his therapist this type of behavior was confirmed as a typical sa survivor behavior, hiding the bad, ugly evil, perverse etc and only showing what is perceived as good and acceptable.
Thank you for reading this. It means so much to have others care. Good luck and Godspeed to all of you. i will continue to read your posts.
jg
 
Hi jg,

Wow! I guess from the desert and dumped into a flood, huh?

I guess if you want any tips, my number one is
The most important thing for any partner . . .
You take good care of you.
Keep visiting and we can talk more.

See you,

Sunshine
 
I agree with the "take care of you" advice - just remember that sometimes a SA survivor may try to take his rage, etc out on you (my SA bf does that from time to time and it is agonizing and horrendously damaging to myself and the relationship).

I agree with your encouragement to be dedicated and supportive but as far as "leaving only when you are asked" - that is a difficult one for some partners (including myself) It is hard to sit rationalize why someone mistreats you and to deal with the crap and abuse when the mistreatment is so damaging (in my case I get subjected to some horrendously cruel verbal abuse from time to time).

When this mistreatment has gone on for a long time it is understandable that partners of survivors may start contemplating leaving the relationship. One can only take so much. I too have pondered the idea, quite seriously, of leaving my partner on a few occasions as a means to protect myself. At those points, while I did care that he may perceive me leaving as another case of rejection and abandonment, I was so affected by the abuse and so far gone and so depressed that I HAD to think of myself first.
 
This is a test. JG and Sandy W., you are about to find out just what your marraige and family are REALLY made of.
Just keep this one thought; What did I marry this guy for back then? The answer to that will determine what the future holds not only for you, but the generations that will follow you. Not is it worth it today, but in the years to come. This Is A Test of not only your marriage, but your family as well.
Marriages used to be pre-arranged among families, and only purity and diginity of a family name was accecptable. I wonder if that wasn't a good system after all?
Tom S.

In this time of economic uncertianty, it is easy to see the health care providers who are concerned about providing true health care, and those who are in it for the money. Tom S.
 
JG - Wow! You are quite a lady. I happen to agree with "for better or worse". That's what marriage is supposed to be about.

As for "leaving when asked", you have to be careful. It may be a test. Yes, it makes no sense but so little does; ecpecially initially on the road to heal.

PAS - It is perfectly acceptable to leave when his behavior becomes unacceptable. When you return, the message is I am not leaving you but the behavior.

Tom S. - You are right about the test, on so many levels.

Peace,
Freedom
 
JG
I guess you've read my post "Me and Sugar" ?

I saw so much of my marriage in what you wrote, and although we're still not perfect - I still have issues with intimacy and sex - life is GOOD compared to where we were.

I think it's sometimes important to go back and remember the person we fell in love with and detach that person from the messed up life survivors live.
We do crazy things when we're wounded, heal the wounds and see if things change. Maybe the handsome, witty sex god will return ?

But PAS is absolutely right, don't take crap from anyone. I'm talking 'real crap' - not helping themselves, verbal or physical abuse and stuff like that. Nobody deserves that.

We heal faster with love and support, that's a fact.

dave
 
Thank you all for your replies. I would like to edit something in my post. I shouldn't have made that broad generalization to "stay unless asked to leave." I apologize for that. Not everyone is in the same situation as me. Obviously, if you are being completely hurt and abused by someone who, in addition, refuses to seek help, then you may have no choice but to leave. PAS, i know about the verbal abuse. That was my husband's behavior often, before i even knew about the sa. He ended that behavior completely several months ago because it was unbearable for me to go on like that. Then, the sa became known just a few weeks ago. So, he has alot of work to do but is doing beautifully. Does your partner want help with these issues? Is he in therapy? Without it, i think it will be a long, hard road. Possibly, without any positive changes. You have to take care of yourself as well and work together, as a couple.
jg
 
Dave,
thanks for your post. Things were always really good, intimately. But now they are on a whole new level of closeness that i don't think either one of us felt before. it has been wonderful.
I'm happy to hear that you are improving in all areas too!
jg
 
jg, Thanks for your post. Your courage and support are the greatest gift your husband could ask for. It is so incredibly hard to go this alone; I have found even with the help of a good T. But, I am making it, it may take me a bit longer but will get there. None of us asked for this nor did our spouses, the gigantic tear it creates in a marriage (relationship) is unbelievable. Your compassion for your husband again is terrific. Encourage him to post as well, stay strong, a good hug goes along way in healing, I miss it.
Bob
 
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