First hello

First hello

TDC

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Hello gentlemen,
I've been procrastinating about posting for several months now. I continue to question and doubt the significance of my experience and I am afraid it will be discounted by others. So, posting is my way of affirming and validating the significance of the sexually abusive/incestuous nature of the relationship I had with my mother as a boy and adolescent. I believe my mother thought she was being a good mother. I now see how clueless (or sick) she really was. I saw my mother in some degree of undress from boyhood until I was 20 years old. I regularly saw her breasts and pubic hair. I regularly saw her naked at the mirror in her bathroom getting ready for work in the morning. I saw her regularly use the toilet. I heard her douche. When I was 20 I was seeing a psychiatrist who Told me to go home and tell her to put clothes on. I did. I didn't know this was an option. Her reaction was essentially "oh, ok", and it stopped.
Perhaps More disturbing to me is the fact that my mother wiped me after I had a bowel movement...I have memory of this from when I was 8 or 9... I dont remember how long this went on, but I do not remember it going beyond age 9. I know that I had a little song that I made up to let her know I was ready for her. She would come into the bathroom (doors were rarely closed), bend me over the tub, look up me, and wipe me while she gave a running commentary on her progress. As I write this I feel such incredible shame, I want to hide. In fact, this is what I do. I hide. I avoid...people, places and things. Being in the world remains very difficult for me. I feel this chronic sense of vulnerability and fear of exposure...like people can see inside of me. Gee, go figure! Ive struggled with depression and anxiety my entire adult life and had a drug problem as a young man. I am in my 50s now, and while as a young man I was a serial monogamist (could not live without a woman) and sexually compulsive...I'm now sexually repressed and guilt ridden if I masturbate and sex with my wife remains a challenge. It's as though the violation of the incest taboo permeates every thought, feeling and behavior. I've worked through a lot of issues and feel this is the middle of the onion. My mother is dead now, but our enmeshed relationship continues to live on...projected onto the world in one way, shape of form everyday. I've begun to break free, but damn is it difficult. Thanks for reading. TDC
 
Tdc

I Understand what you have been through. It is difficult to find the words to explain the hurt we go through. I hate to say but only survivors truly understand the struggles we go through. I hope you find the answers to your questions. You are in the right place to find those answers. I found that for what ever reason our minds tend to bring this forward as we mature in life. Haven't figured that out yet why as we age this becomes a challenge. Welcome to ms. Take it as fast or as slow as you need.

Ws
 
Thanks woodenshoes. I really appreciate your supportive response and would like to learn more about your experience some time. TDC
 
Tdc - Welcome -a and sorry at the same time you have to be here.Yes. you're completely correct in your assessment of it all - it was an invasion and it will permeate everything. Even as you move through your healing process, it will be a part of nearly everything. It is with us who were violated by a male, just as it is with those violated by a female. Violation is violation. We're here to listen....
 
Hello TDC, I like MS online. There's so much to read, so much to absorb of how others deal with things. And yes, there's a lot of pain too. I think some need time to navigate the things they're wanting from MS online.

I'm rather new, but I think this place is helping me take in the help I want, and dispel an ideal of what this journey is supposed to be? My mantra is, it is what it is, and move on!

I like the time to time interaction, the occasional feedback and the depth of sharing that occurs here. A lot of experience to draw from, and counter to that, a lot of pain. It takes time, and what effort we have to give.

Best wishes on your new journey, we get it here, that's truth! Be kind to yourself, and go as slow or fast as fits your need.
 
Hi TDC,

Your post resonated with me because it so closely matched what I was put through when I was younger. My mother also amused herself by touching me inappropriately and finding ways to see me naked, even when I was in my teens. Moreover, she was physically abusive as well and was hitting me until I was late into my twenties.

My mother also has been dead for 18 years and to be very honest, I am not sad she is gone and I do not miss her. Life has been better without her.

I'm glad you found the courage to post here and to talk about your issues. I hope you will continue to do so. Talking, even through a computer medium, really does help.
 
Welcome TDC

Don't worry about being discounted by other guys. Each person's story is as valid as the next. I often feel like I don't belong here because 'I have abuse lite' when compared with what some of the other guys went through ... but that isn't the point of MS. It's not a contest.
You were 'damaged' in a sexual way by an adult when you were a child.
Sadly ... that's the only qualification required for entry into this club.
It's a great place.
Each guy must take from it what is useful for him ... and by sharing your story with others you help others understand their own circumstances.

I'm glad you found us.

Sharky
 
WG
I really like what you said:"violation is violation." It helps to view it that way. Honestly, it feels as though I'm going through life in fear and avoidance of violation...of course seeing "violation" where there isn't any. Take care, TDC
 
Hi Nothing Man,
Thanks for the welcome and share. I think my mother was clueless, blinded by her own need...she felt needed. I think she was sexually frustrated and derived some subconscious pleasure through her seductive behavior. I'm glad she wasn't mean and sadistic...though she was easily wounded emotionally and expected those around her to protect her from "bad" feelings. Take care, TDC
 
Hi ShyShark:
Thanks for your welcome. You made a good point..."abuse lite"...one of the reasons I procrastinated was the belief that my experience was "bad" enough....so thank you for that. I also liked what you said about being damaged in a sexual way by an adult...makes a lot of sense and is affirming. Take care, TDC
 
WG
I really like what you said:"violation is violation." It helps to view it that way. Honestly, it feels as though I'm going through life in fear and avoidance of violation...of course seeing "violation" where there isn't any. I also appreciate you saying I'm accurate in my assessment of it all. I go back and forth in seeing it for what it was given that I don't believe my mother intended to hurt me. Take care, TDC
 
Welcome TDC

No one's pain, including your own, is less significant than any other. You were injured and your pain is real. You are welcome here and know that we will support you on your journey to healing.
Zookeeper
 
Thank you Victor-
I really appreciate your post. It was validating. I started to give up on this forum and was excited to see your post. I would be interested in reading your story and learning more about our similarities and struggle.
Peace,
TDC
 
Hello Zookeeper
Thanks so much for your post. does the tendency to minimize ones experience when compared to others' pass with time? As I indicated, I've done "a lot" of personal work over the years, but never addressed this issue the way I have in the past 6 months. I suppose this recovery involves a grief as well.
Thanks again,
Peace,
TDC
 
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