Feeling Guilty being here!

Feeling Guilty being here!

Grunty1967b

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Here's a new one (or maybe not). I feel guilty and that there's something seriously wrong with me for being here and needing and wanting the support I've been getting here.

Yes, I am a survivor of CSA and not some sicko lurking around here. I know I was abused, I know I have issues, I know I'm getting so much help just by reading posts and being in chats, and I know it wasn't my fault, but I feel like I shouldn't need help.

I'm so ashamed and I can't bring myself to even tell my wife (where we both always agree on a totally open and honest relationship). I feel like I'm doing something wrong by not telling her and I feel like there's something wrong with me by me feeling I need and want to be here.

I also feel like a person living a double life. Of course, only 2 people know about my abuse but the rest of my life "looks" fabulous and so again I feel like a fraud. If only they knew. Am I imagining all this? Should I really just be OK with no hang-ups or problems. Arghh!
 
Well, I'd say there's a big chunk of un-spoken info there to chew on, so here goes my response, in no particluar order...

First off, in my opinion, the best thing that you can do for yourself is try to reach a point where you're "okay with things not being okay". Kind of an acknowledgement that, yes, things aren't good. That's always a major first step in any form of healing, or moving on.

I definitely relate to feeling like I shouldn't need help. I mean, I look around sometimes, just in life in general, and see all these people who have had things so much worse than me. Why should I be F'd up by it when these people are going on like nothing happened. Well, in all reality, yes, I probably need help less than they do, just because I DO know I need help sometimes. Denial can make things so much worse, and sometimes even create new problems.

Feeling guilty about recieving support is sometimes a natural response: You, even on minimal levels, have to think about and acknowledge whatwever it was that happened to you, and that's not always a very easy or comfortable task. And sometimes we all would rather NOT think about it, but when someone comes along and goes "Hey, I know what you've gone through, let's talk about it and get it off your chest" you, want to or not, will at least touch breifly on the thoughts, regardless of sharing them or not.

I would say you should figure out a comfortable way to tell your wife about it ASAP. I definitely know the fears invovled, as do we all, I'm sure, of "what if so and so doesn't look at me the same once they know." The truth, is that they probably won't. That knowledge will change some of their thought process towards you. Most often, it simply makes them aware that some things might trigger feelings that are hard to deal with, and they try to be aware and respectful of that. My wife used to mess with me by saying "No Daddy" at random times, in a little girl-type voice. That drives me crazy, because I don't like identifying my abuse with her. I rescently explained that to her, and she doesn't do it now, and she understands why I used to be so adamant about her NOT doing it to me. She still loves me, and that hasn't changed. If your wife truely loves you, then she should be supportive and try to help however you're comfortable with her doing so. If she doesn't, well, that's a different problem that would show itself eventually, regardless of anything else, as sad as it is.

There's nothing wrong with you feeling the need and want to be here. By our very nature as humans, we seek out places and others, who we have commonalities with. There is nothing wrong with that. Failing to do so can be a problem though, trust me on that one, I've gone through it. I'm a wee-bit anti-social face to face. On-line I'll tell you my whole life's story without any other reason than you asking. *grin* Resason: You asked

And finally, I'd say if you feel like you're being a "fraud" for having such a "fabulous" life to most people's perceptions, take a look around you at other people. And think "Are they hiding something from the rest of the world? Did they have something horrible happen to them when they were young? Did they see their best-friend die right infront of them?" (all examples, nothing more)

I would tell someone who claims to have no hang-ups about anything in life, thaty they are full of nothing but crap, that they're in denial, and they need professional help, NOW. Why? Because even if we just have a pet-peeve about people stepping on the cracks in the side-walk, we ALL have something(possibly multiple somethings) that we get hung-up on at times. So to that end, maybe you can take some comfort in the idea that no matter how bad things are for you, someone else, somewhere else, has probably got it much worse, and can't even function because of it. I know that's a bit of a morbid vewpoint, but hey, I'm glad I can get up in the morning and go do my job, rather than lay in bed for most of the week, pumped up on pain-killers and anti-depressants like my step-father. Not that I don't have compassion for him, but I'm sure you understand the comparison.

So I guess to sum up everything I've said so far... Don't worry, you're fine. We all have our rough spells, and you'll get past it. Just hang in there, and trust that someone will be able and willing to help you when you need help. There's no weakness in that. And even less in accepting help. I think there's a greater weakness in NOT accepting help, personally.

Okay, I'm done with my schpeal. :p
 
Hi Grunty

Sorry you're feeling like that, bit I really can identify with you. Being new here myself I really don't know where to catagorise my feelings and emotions.

I also feel guilty (sometimes) about being here and wanting support, one minute I may feel I'm fully recovered the next back down in the dumps again. My life also looks great from the outside, but to be honest I would not wish my emotions and feelings on my worst enemy.

I told my wife only the other day, well to be honest i'd left this message board on one of my PCs and went out. When I came back in she had been on the PC and I'd realised she must have seen it. Later that night I asked her if she seen anything on my PC she would like to talk about. It went from there and she has been very supportive, learning curve for both of us but so far so good.

I still feel ashamed of my past but I know in time and with the right support my thinking will change. I do beleive I've nothing to be ashamed of but years of accepthing responsibility and ashamed cannot change overnight, give it time.

Please don't think I'm trying to give you advice or anything, i'm way too new for this but I just wanted to share with you that you're not alone and I got re-assurance from your post.

Good luck and please feel free to contact me anytime.

Sam
 
can i add to what Sam said-im new here too and it is a mix of emotions but i too have felt ashamed-my newby advice is to look around the site and you will find something that tells you that you are not alone-it feels weird at first but it really does help-and EVERYBODY needs help-it doesnt make you weak

good luck
 
Grunty - I spent over 3 decades thinking that I was OK. Outwardly everything looked fine.

I spent years in dead end jobs whilst playing in rock bands, often drunk & sometimes stoned.

Eventually I started doing jobs that actually used my brain (around 30 years old - cutting back the booze to mainly weekends).

Suppose that was when I started to come back to life, but that also involved a slow and gradual release of everything that I had buried. No one other than my perp new about the abuse at that point.

I gradually got better and better jobs (more like a career). Won a National Supervisory Competition against a lot of strong competition. Got my own house, car, guitars and other toys that I had always wanted.

There was still one thing holding me back and it terrified me that anyone should find out.

Eventually I told 3 close friends when I was drunk - they didn't ditch me - they were more mortified that it had happened and that I had never been able to tell anyone.

Thought I was OK for a while, then Christmas 2003 I was Christmas Shopping in Leeds (UK) & only needed one more present for my Nephew (he was 11 at the time - just a year younger than I was when abused). It just dawned on me that my Nephew lived close to my abuser & over the next few days I just slipped into a total breakdown.

I found this site on Dec 31st 2003, just before I started seeing a shrink. I really needed to find this site at that time - I'd turned down every invitation for New Year. Normally at New year, I would be the first to arrive & the last to leave.

So on the face of it, we can all 'look fabulous'. I believe from personal experience, that if we do not deal with impact that abuse has had upon us, someday the dam will break anyway.

To cut a long story short, I am now taking my abuser to court. It's not just about me now - it's about the others that he is not going to get his hands on.

I am much stronger at work & don't take any shit off anyone - I would at one time help others clear a backlog of work & then see them going home whilst I cleared my own backlog...not anymore.

Anyone that has been abused, or knows of someone that has been abused deserves the support that is available here.

Grunty by coming here and dealing with it, you can gain strength that you maybe thought you didn't need. You're here, so I think that you do need it!

Sorry to have such a rant on your post, but just to add clarity - I started a job in 1991 & made several friends there. They called me Coco after the clown because I was always laughing - 2 of those friends were among the 3 that I first told of my abuse, more than a decade after I had first met them. They were shocked that such a 'happy person' had such heavy baggage.

Best wishes ...Rik
 
Sam, thankyou for your kind reply and your sharing of your heart. I did not take it as 'preaching advice' but I was encouraged by hearing of your similar hesitation in telling your wife, and by sharing your feelings that has helped me also. This really does work when we let down our guard (in this safe environment) and say how we feel.

Bdr, thankyou for sharing your "up and down emotions". It truly does help to know I'm not going crazy by feeling this way, and that it's to be expected I guess based on what we are working through.

Rick, thankyou for helping to validate my feelings and for helping me see I "have permission" to still be dealing with all this stuff. I thought (and hoped) that this was all behind me and that I was ok. After all, I was confronted by my abuse 18 years ago and thought that everything was ok and had been dealt with. I'm married, have a great job, have security, have future plans, 'seem' like everything's under control and yet - capow! this freight train comes up and hits me in the face when I stumble across this site. How rude! Everything was 'fine'. NOT!

So, this is a new place for me to be - in that this is a new emotional place for me. A place I've been before, but one that I no doubt skipped out of WAY before I should have. I think I can recall thinking, well, I've worked through 'some' stuff, and it's hurt, and it doesn't feel nice and happy any more so it must be time to move on. I'm done aren't I? Well, I was obviously wrong.

Thankyou to all who've responded to this and my other posts, and to all those just reading them. There is amazing support in knowing I am understood in a way that no other person could understand - unless they too had been abused.

Wouldn't it be great if we could all gather for a world-wide get together, where we could all be together, we'd all have had similar experiences and we'd all feel 'normal' (with each other at least).

This is probably a cliche` here, but what are cliches` anyway other than a truth being realised and repeated by so many: It so much helps by knowing that you are not alone, not just in having been abused, but moreso by not being alone in the way this makes one feel, and the fears, insecurities and confusion wrought.

Thankyou all.
 
Hi Grunty,

I can relate to what you were saying especially where you talk about being unable to tell your wife.

18 months ago I found myself in similar circumstances with the added twist that I had repressed the memories of my abuse for over 25 years. I agonized for 6 months on whether to tell her, how to tell, when to tell, etc. I was so ashamed. I had told her before we ever got married that there was nothing of the kind in my background. I felt that if I talked I would be somehow lowered in her eyes. That I would no longer be the man she married.

It got to the point that things were so bad with me that I could no longer hide the fact that I was in a crisis. And still I waited a couple more months thinking I could deal with this and it would all go away. When I finally worked up the courage to tell her, it was a defining moment in my recovery not to mention our relationship. She was so great. My estimation of her quadrupled in the space of an hour and my self confidence rebounded a bunch also.

I'm not trying to tell you that everthing from then on was peaches and cream. I still have my moments of self doubt,shame, and emotional pain, but the support I have gotten from her has been curcial in my recovery. I still have good days and bad. Undealt with issues surrounding my abuse pop up unannounced from time to time and this morning I spent several hours shedding private tears over another one of those issues. During lunch I called my wife and we cried together for a little while. It helps so much.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if your relationship is based on openness and honesty as upi say, then you probably have nothing to fear in going to her, and everything to gain. I encourage you do do it soon.
 
I recall first coming here. I was living with a friend at the time (who actually is my girlfriend now), and my computer was in storage as I was getting ready to move. I remember being on the computer in the middle of the night, and then erasing the history and such after so she wouldn't know what web site I've been to (this one and another survivor site).

And also, often, I feel guilty being here. Still sometime, although not as much as when I was new. I still feel I do not deserve this site, I do not deserve to heal, and I must 'earn' my right to post anything (which is why you see the occasions of OCD post responding).

I do not have the felicity of marriage at this point. But shortly after beginning to date my girlfriend, I did tell her about these issues, just in general terms. I wrote it in a letter, and gave it to her one night, while I was there with her. I figured, I could handle answering questions if she asked them, I just could not handle speaking it all at the beginning. Her only questions at the time was 'how can I help' and 'can I give you a hug'. Of course, she's questioned lots since then! (Including probably her sanity in remaining with me). Perhaps some of the married guys here can give you ideas of how to speak it to her.

As to the feeling guilty being here, I think that fades some in time as you get a new sense of self worth and acceptance. It is a roller coaster, and once you do not feel that way, it does not mean you never will again. But it gets better.

Leosha
 
What do you do when two tall towers of your life, Love and respect come crashing down one fine day?

Do you rummage through the debris for the rest of your life waiting to gather yourself together again? Or do you sit up one day and say: Ok so now lets build it all over again.

The most befitting best revenge to any abuse of power is to rebuild your life, much stronger than before. To make your life so bright that, that one little dark episode gets faded out.

If I remain dark even for one single day, if I remain scared even for one single occasion, then I am allowing him to win even after 20 years. I would never give him the satisfaction that he managed to destroy me.

So today, I am building those towers again, the towers of my life. And guess what? They are going to much stronger and taller now.

I dont want to make a memorial of the abuse; I am making a memorial, to honour my strength, my spirit. And above all to honour of my victory over darkness.
 
Morning Star, thankyou for your thoughts.

You have shed a bright light on something that has eluded me for so many years.

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The most befitting best revenge to any abuse of power is to rebuild your life, much stronger than before.

...if I remain scared even for one single occasion, then I am allowing him to win even after 20 years. I would never give him the satisfaction that he managed to destroy me.
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Being a family member, I do occasionaly [not by deliberate choice] see my abuser. I am certianly aware of his thoughts about me, and his disdain for me just being.

So the penny has dropped! I'm sure that I am a constant reminder of what he did to me. Maybe he feels guitly or even affected himself by his own actions. I don't really care about that. I don't wish ill things to happen to him, as that will only destroy me also. Bad on bad doesn't make good, and there's been enough bad stuff in my life.

The other revelation thought is that as my whole life (outwardly to his knowledge at least) is going so much better than his and that must really eat at him too. So that's what I realised today from your post Morning Star. Thankyou.

I love another statement you also made:

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I dont want to make a memorial of the abuse
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Wow! I think that as this is very top of mind for me at present, that I need to be careful that my recovery path and what I'm recovering from doesn't become the centre of my life.
 
Grunty, you will let go of these feelings soon. Those who always treated you unappropriately to you can be just wrong, and they are. You are willing to help yourself by going to this forum, which is a great deal by itself. Also you will make lots of good to others as you gain self-confidence and learn to work on what has happened to you, and the aftereffects it exertes on your current life. The men here may feel powerful just because they could be older and more confident in themselves, but there is no any kicker at all.

This place is for you to help you any time you feel weak, and it is your strength that you take this important step. As a new one here, I am wishing you to believe in yourself. This community can give the knowledge of the experience survivor possess, and this will definitely help.

Take care.
 
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