Experiences that made things worse (possible triggers)

Experiences that made things worse (possible triggers)

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Eddie (watstobe) has recently posted on the topic of his experience in gym class and how it hurt him as a boy. It really helped me to be reminded of that, so I thought perhaps a separate thread would be useful and perhaps others have will have something to say about their own experiences.

I was just talking with my mother back in the States last night. She calls frequently and has been such a source of support. Last night we were talking about friends I had when I was being abused, and she told me that while there were a lot of boys who would have liked to be my friend, I would usually clam up and shut them out. I hung out with maybe two other boys a lot, and that was it. Everyone else was just an acquaintance.

I can now look back and see that I really was doing that, and one reason was that abuse had taught me how worthless I was.

But it wasn't just that. In school I had the ultimate asshole gym teacher, Mr C. Then I was afraid of him, but now I recognize him as a swaggering, arrogant and shallow jock dickhead (is that descriptive enough? :) ). He never taught us a thing. He just took us out to play football in the fall, regardless of how cold or rainy it was, then basketball indoors in the winter, then gymnastics and wrestling, then baseball, spiced with episodes of dodgeball here and there.

The emphasis wasn't on team effort or sportsmanship or learning to enjoy sports, just winning and being the biggest jock. Kids who didn't know anything about a particular sport were picked last for teams and were ridiculed by the sporty guys AND by Mr C. I was terrible at baseball, for example, and when I was at bat he would motion the outfielders to take a break because he didn't see any way I would hit a ball that far. I would stand there dying, knowing it was true, while half the class and the teacher laughed.

One fall, when it was cold, windy, and rainy outside, he made us go out, split into "shirts" and "skins" teams, and play touch football. I liked football but I reminded him he had a note from my doctor saying because of my asthma I couldn't go outside shirtless in the rain in November. So he told me yes, he had better put me on the "shirts" team before I ran home to "cry to your Mommy".

In the locker room he would walk around growling at us to "get that kit off" and get into the showers, and one kid who was embarrassed because he was late maturing sexually got laughed at by him and was told, "Go ahead, get into that shower. Everyone already knows you got nothing to look at." If a kid got an erection in class or in the showers he would get snapped at and asked which other boy he had his eye on.

Sometimes when we had changed he would first make us all sit on the bleachers in the gymnasium for awhile at the beginning of class and listen to whatever garbage rant he had on offer. He humiliated me once for writing an essay in civics/world cultures about North Vietnam. He heard about it in the teachers' room from my civics teacher (who liked the essay), so in front of the whole gym class he asks if my parents are commies and no wonder I'm not a "real man".

I liked English class a lot, did well in it, and absolutely loved poetry. When Robert Frost died I was devastated and cried a lot about it, and my English teacher suggested I write a poem in memory of him. I did, and I thought it was a cool poem. I wrote about how I wanted to follow him down the "road not taken" and he would always be my inspiration. It got posted on a bulletin board with other things about Frost and I was really happy. The gym teacher's reaction? Everyone knows that poets are mostly "queers" and only other queers write poems about queers.

Another time, after my debate team won our regional championship tournament, he lectured my gym class about how some boys are such "pussies" they think talking and arguing are more important than sports. But he would set things right of course. The so-called leader of those "pussies" wasn't getting more than a C this marking period in gym. Then he looked right at me and said if I cried right now, in front of everyone, he would give me a B out of pity. So am I going to cry for my B?, he asked.

When I was trying to get all the merit badges I needed for my Eagle Scout award, one that was difficult for me was the "Physical Fitness" badge, which was required. The problem was that you have to run a certain distance in a certain time, and that was rough for me because I was asthmatic. But finally I beat the time, and in fact I got into running laps as a way of keeping fit. I was so proud of myself, and I went to my gym teacher during our class for him to time me and certify that I had met the requirement. At last he would see I could do something! How could he humiliate me this time? I should have known better. I asked him to time me for the run, and instead he just signed the form, threw it back at me, and said - in front of everyone in the class - that "even a girl" could beat the time I needed to get.

My parents knew about a few of these episodes, mainly the times when I would come home wheezing and struggling to breathe because he had made me play football shirtless in the rain while he stood on the sidelines bundled up in several layers. He got called into the principal's office more than once, but that just made things worse.

Looking back I can see the devastating effects this was having on me. Abuse had made me timid and afraid to relate to other boys, and all the signs signalled to this teacher not a kid who needed help and support, but a target for mockery and humiliation. Mr C never raped me, but what he did to me wasn't much better.

Man, did I ever need to say that!!!!!!!!!

But how does saying it help me now? It helps me because it shows me that I need to look at the whole picture of what was happening. There are good reasons why I was falling apart, and this example just emphasizes to me even more how NONE of what was happening was my fault.

It also helps me because I know in my heart that other brothers here will find that they had experiences that were similar. I hope you too can see how the blame for what happened to us ALWAYS falls elsewhere. Toxic people seem to have a radar for kids who are vulnerable and hurting.

Much love,
Larry
 
Larry,

I guess a lot of it was pretty much the same for all of us.
Terrified kids with teachers who knew how to really belittle the weak in class.

I too was pretty popular, but tried my best to avoid friendships in case they found out, my secret.

I always trying so hard to keep teachers, and classmates 'on side'.
There were a few teachers who used disgusting behaviour towards me, and they had their favourites.

I guess they didnt treat us as kids at all, but something they can poke fun at.
There were some real cool teachers though, and they always backed me up.

Gym was a nightmare, I purposely forgot my gym gear, but had to relent in the end.
I was terrified of showers, and always first out, wearing shorts was also a nightmare.

That was one reason early on for being terrified of joining scouts.
I joined sea cadets just to wear long trousers.

One of my problems was teachers expecting so much of me, one part knew I could do it, but the other just kept tearing me away. I was probably top of the class but deliberately made mistakes to not be.

Talk about self abuse, not wanting to be seen as smart ass by classmates.
It was hard enough trying to keep my sanity then, never mind doing my best, guess it was when I started to give in to it,

ste
 
Larry - that teacher was the part of our body that we **** out of! He obviously had major problems with self esteem; if the best he could do was belittle kids! He wasn't a man! You were obviously more mature than he was even then!

If you ever get the chance to watch the British Film, Kes, give it a go! The PE 'teacher' in that is a right ****! Everyone watching the film can see it, and so can all of the kids in the film! Watch it & you may just see your PE 'teacher' for what he really was!

Best wishes ...Rik
 
I hated and still hate gym class. In my generation it is unthinkable for a gym teacher to enter the locker room under any circumstances. In middle school I would get bullied and the teacher wouldn't do anything besides yell "cut it out in there" every ounce in a while. I remember racing to the locker room so I could get out before anyone else showed up. I am

When I was trying to get all the merit badges I needed for my Eagle Scout award, one that was difficult for me was the "Physical Fitness" badge, which was required. The problem was that you have to run a certain distance in a certain time, and that was rough for me because I was asthmatic.
That was one of my least favorite merit badges.
 
Larry,

For 40 years I tried to understand why it was that I was picked on. It came from a few teachers, and classmates. Starting my very first day in first grade the nightmare began. I knew I was a target and couldn't figure out why. It continued till my sophomore year in high school, by which time I was so down on myself nothing mattered anyhow and when I began making friends that year I couldn't fully appreciate the fact. I was just worthless in my mind.

Now I know that the abuse I received caused low self worth, which was quite noticeable to others, which brought on more self esteem problems, which became even more noticeable, which... It was a never ending downward spiral, and I was just left a hurting child who couldn't even tell his parents of his heartache because it didn't feel safe.

It hurts, but that hurt is fading, and in it's place I find a compassion for others who have found themselves in similar straights just welling up inside me. The more I reach out, the less it hurts, and the more courage I find within myself to reach out even more... Only this time it's an upward spiral, recovery, healing, the path to better things.

Good thread, Larry.

Lots of love,

John
 
Larry,
I remember similar gym teachers but none that quite reached the level of yours. That sounded awful and you are right, the blame does always fall elsewhere.
Thanks for sharing that.

Dale
 
Bill,

That's an important change I think. In my days in high school (1961-67) no one thought that anyone like a gym teacher (or Scout leader) could be a source of danger to us boys. His office had a big glass window looking right into the locker room so he could see what was going on, and as I said he would often just "appear" to check on us, = bully and intimidate us. One time while we were all showering and changing he even walked through the locker room butt naked and used our shower (no hot water in his he said). Even the jocks were freaked out when he did this and we were all very quiet. What a piece of shit he was.

I'm glad it's different for guys of your generation now.

Much love,
Larry
 
As some of you know my sister Cathie ("the Rock") is a member here and posts in F&F. With her permission I would like to post a PM she sent me concerning this thread:

As I read this post, it took me back. I remember what a monster your gym teacher was. I remember, I remember. I love you. Cathie
I had forgotten that on this subject I WAS able to talk to her. You were a great help Cath. Don't know what I would do without you.

Much love,
Larry
 
Larry,

I had similar experiences in middle school, especially with the showers, but they weren't nearly as bad as yours. I'm so sorry you went through all that. I became teary and I even got flashbacks as I read your story.

When you said you weren't good at baseball, I remembered my father when he forced me to become good at baseball even though I never actually liked the sport. The way he did it was he would put me in between two walls that were about five feet apart so I could not dodge the ball and then he would throw the ball at me as fast and as hard as he could and I would have to catch it. He wouldn't let me go until I could catch the ball at least twenty times without failure.

Needless to say, I got hit many times by the ball and I would break into tears as I tried to desperately catch it. When I began getting good, my father would rejoice and would often try to comfort me by telling me how good I now was. I hated it, but I did it anyway to please him lest he punish me in other ways. I actually became quite good at catching the ball because of this experience and even to this day I have no fear of the ball hitting me no matter how fast it is coming at me.

My father wanted a good baseball player and he got it in the end, but at the expense of losing his son.
 
Jesse,

Your story sums it up. The ordeal was for the benefit and ego-nourishment of the adult, not for the good of the child.

Much love,
Larry
 
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