DRAFT PUTS AT 4450 CLERGY ACCUSED OF SEX ABUSE

DRAFT PUTS AT 4450 CLERGY ACCUSED OF SEX ABUSE

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Report: 11,000 Clergy Abuse Claims Filed

By RACHEL ZOLL
AP Religion Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- A draft of the upcoming national survey of sex abuse claims against Roman Catholic priests has been viewed by CNN, which reported Monday that 4,450 clergy have been accused of molesting minors since 1950.

The draft survey said 11,000 abuse claims have been filed against the U.S. churchmen during that period, CNN reported.

The survey is being overseen by the National Review Board, a lay watchdog panel the American bishops formed, and conducted by researchers from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

John Jay refused to comment on the CNN report, while board members contacted Monday by The Associated Press wouldn't say whether or not the latest statistics were accurate. They stressed the report is not finished, and that any numbers tallied so far could change before the study is released Feb. 27.

The figures are roughly in keeping with a trend the AP reported on last week.



Some individual dioceses have released the abuse statistics they compiled for the national survey, and the AP has been tracking those reports. Through Monday, 84 of 195 U.S. dioceses had reported claims - with 1,413 clergy accused of abuse since 1950. Tens of thousands of priests worked in those dioceses during that period.

The number of accused clergy is already much greater than the scope of abuse previously estimated by victims' groups and the media.

"I would hope that the public would kind of withhold any immediate judgment until they get the full story on Feb. 27th," said Leon Panetta, the former Clinton White House chief of staff and a National Review Board member.

Robert S. Bennett, a prominent Washington attorney and another review board member, said survey drafts are circulating only among board members and John Jay researchers.

No bishops have seen the draft, said Bennett, who also is overseeing the board's investigation into the causes of the clergy abuse crisis. The results of that inquiry will also be released Feb. 27.

"Both the National Review Board report and the John Jay study are still in the process of being written," Bennett said. "People should wait until then to draw their conclusion."

Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said in a statement that he has not seen the drafts and can't comment on any numbers until a final report is issued at month's end.

"I want to reaffirm that the bishops requested these studies so that we could understand as fully as possible what caused this terrible occurrence in the life of our community to make sure that it never happens again," Gregory said.

The bishops commissioned the unprecedented survey as part of a series of reforms meant to restore trust in their leadership. The 84 dioceses that released their statistics have reported 2,990 abuse claims so far.

CNN reported that the draft survey said 78 percent of those abused were between the ages of 11 and 17, and that more than half the accused priests had a single allegation filed against them.

It said the report blames the sex abuse crisis on the bishops' failure to grasp the gravity of the problem, their misguided willingness to forgive and their emphasis on avoiding scandal, among other things.

Victim advocates say the survey ultimately will underestimate the number of cases because it is based on self-reporting by bishops.


FROM THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS 2-17-2004


My shithead was an adult altar boy; a pillar of the church--------the priest told me to forget it when I told him that was drugged and takin advantage of. You know - the holy father knew what piece of shit I was talkin about. Maybe it was money talking- I don't know. Maybe he knew more than he wanted to tell me. Probably.

So one day I decided to do a Texas 2 step on this guy - I went to his house- would have knocked the shit out of his boyfriend too - I was ready for Hell-and he had moved to Hawaii----lucky him; poor me- I would enjoy to send him a message if I could locate him..... The fuckin' bastard.

Maybe we should stop blameing ourselves-------I'm working on it.

Surround yourself with positives....... :cool:
 
Mike: Now if we extrapolate that to the rest of the world it says a lot does it not. And yet the statistics show that the vast majority of SA occurs in and around the home.

What a god damned universal evil this is.

ALL THE MORE REASON FOR US TO BECOME ADVOCATES TO CHANGE SOCIETIES PERCEPTION OF THIS. MALESURVIVOR CAN HELP TO LEAD THAT MISSION. I MEAN NOBODY HAS TAKEN THE BALL AND RUN WITH THIS. IT MIGHT AS WELL BE US. WE HAVE TO BE STRONG AND HAVE THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS HERE TO LET THEM KNOW WE ARE NOT KIDDING AND CANNOT BE BRUSHED ASIDE BY POLITICIANS, BEUROCRATS, AND LOBBYISTS WHO SEE NO IMPORTANCE TO THIS EVIL

OH GOD I AM SORRY TO RANT BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I WANT THE WORLD TO COME TO A DEAD STOP AND LISTEN AND I MEAN REALLY LISTEN
 
it's good when you fire bullets, Mike...

especially when you are right, sir...

and i'm joining MS.. :cool:

told'em 2 mail an app to my house...

I believe in GOD...he just has some assholes that run that store. :mad:
 
Mike
those figures are horrific, and as Canuck Mike says, when those figures are spread around the world, and across other faiths that must surely be in a similar position ?? then it's bad. I know the RC Church in the UK is going through the same thing, and the Irish Church is torn apart by CSA scandals.

I'm not a believer myself, but it's the wholesale hypocrisy of preaching good - and doing evil that makes me so mad about it all.
Probably my rage about that comes from also being abused by people I should have been able to trust - older boys and teacher at my old boarding school. Along with the betrayal of the headmaster who did f**k all to stop it when he found out about it.

So I'm going to paraphrase your quote here -

I believe in Education...there are some assholes that run that school.

It's 'self' education that counts now though, it's up to us to learn new ways to cope with the crap.

Dave
 
I can not imagine how terrible, to have abuse done by a person supposedly of God. I think that would have to be worse kind of betrayal. I am sorry for all who suffered it.

Leosha
 
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