DATING AND MOVING ON

DATING AND MOVING ON

JAAY

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I am trying to get it together and need some help! "TRIGGER" I was raped at age 5 by my father (he has been dead for 15 years) and had no recall of the event until I was 33. I have been in therpy and take paxil for depression. The last few months have been difficult...my cat died, people use to call her my wife and my mother has been treated for breast cancer. I was afraid I would lose her and then I discovered I didn't have any real support. I have a number of great friends but never a girlfriend. I want to share my life with a nice woman who I can support and love. It was like I woke up and found myself alone and hating it for the frist time. Does anyone have any ? :confused: suggestions? :confused:
 
I feel so sorry about your poor little cat!

As for the loneliness, the best thing to do, I think, is to find some kind of creative outlet that takes you out of yourself & is also somewhat social - music, dance, birdwatching, organized religion, etc.

As for the dating stuff, let's be realistic... Survivors would NOT be good candidates for dating services or matchmakers: the idea that someone would be interested in us solely bec. she/ he finds us "attractive" is overwhelmingly EXPLOSIVE!!! It's important that we allow ourselves the time we need to unfold ourselves to others AT OUR OWN PACE.

Sorry there's no magic here...

You will be JUST FINE in time.
 
Oh - and also - sorry to hear about your Mom...
 
JAAY,

Im so sorry about your cat...my own cats mean the world to me.

As someone who was involved with a Survivor, I have to say that it wouldnt be fair to anyone you become romantically involved with until you know for sure that you can handle the intimacy and trust that comes with such a relationship.

I know what loneliness feels like and it sucks, but you need to take care of yourself first before trying to share you life with someone else. However, if you do happen to meet someone I would suggest open and honest communication as the key for potential success.

I think the common denominator in all of us is to find that one special person who we can love and be loved by...I know it doesnt seem like it, but time really does have a way of working things out...hang in there.

Take care,
Tabor
 
Thanks for your advise! I know that it is not fair to start relationships unless you are ready but how can we tell that we are ready?

I guess that recent events have propelled to the next step in recovery. I am trying to be proactive, honesst and postive. I do believe I have allot to give and that I am not just a survivor.
 
Thanks for your advise! I know that it is not fair to start relationships unless you are ready but how can we tell that we are ready?

I guess that recent events have propelled to the next step in recovery. I am trying to be proactive, honesst and postive. I do believe I have allot to give and that I am not just a survivor.
 
Thanks for your advise! I know that it is not fair to start relationships unless you are ready but how can we tell that we are ready?

I guess that recent events have propelled to the next step in recovery. I am trying to be proactive, honesst and postive. I do believe I have allot to give and that I am not just a survivor.
 
As someone who got involved with a survivor without that information I think it must be a very difficult thing to know when you are 'ready' to have a relationship. From my experience, I think you need to take a long hard look at the coping mechanisms you use when things don't go your way in life. Do you still pull away from those who have proven themselves trustworthy? Do you abuse alcohol or drugs? All of those things can play havoc on a relationship and all but the strongest partners can cope with that...I think the test may be to open yourself up to a close friendship with a woman first-see how much you are willing to tell her and honestly gauge how truthful you are able to be with her. Don't force anything-if you are at a stage where you can trust her with who you really are, you will know that you are ready. My husband and I met, married and lived together while he kept secrets and pretended to be so together it was incredible, but if you are not truly ready to be honest and open, at some point it will come through, usually when some sort of trigger happens, as I am sure you well know. Don't rush yourself with the realtionship-be patient and see how much you are willing to give in a timely fashion.
I really do wish you all the best-everyone on this website is working towards that goal of being a wonderful supportive and honest partner. We will ALL get there in our own time and you will too. Good luck and much love. :)
AB
 
JAAY,

By truly believing that you have a lot to offer and wanting to give it, you're already on the right track to learning how to be fair to yourself. You're right, that means that you can't shut yourself up with no support anymore. Part of being in a loving relationship is about being fair to our partners, and I think the only way to learn that is through lots of communication, mutual trust, and trial and error. That's why it's great that we all can ask questions here.

If you feel like it's time for you to share your life, why wait for a relationship to do it? There are lots of outlets for creativity and generousity in the world and there are single women in some of them too. It sounds corny, but the more you can give of yourself, the more you learn about yourself.

I think it's great that you've been able to take a stressful time in your life and turn it into the motivation to get to the next step. Good luck, and welcome to MS.

SAR
 
JAAY - your situation is heartbreaking and I have been through similar experience. I am not an SA survivor myself but I am a survivor of some pretty twisted emotional and verbal abuse by my own father, some of which still continues today at age 34. I am engaged to a SA survivor who also struggles with issues related to parental neglect and control (lots of "mom" issues!)

I too went through a tough phase recently. From 1998-2001 I experienced: the loss of a friend in a plane crash, a bad accident which resulted in me being hooked on pain killers, the death of my own cat from a slow, painful cancer, a bad breakup (and subsequent loss of my home - I lived with my then-boyfriend who pretty much kicked me out). I had to move back home at age 30 and start out all over again on my own. In 2001 my dad entered another low in his emotional life and started mixing drugs and booze and wound up getting arrested for DUI and almost taking his life through an O.D. on Labour Day weekend, 2001. In August 2001 I re-met (we were old friends but out of touch for decades) my fiance in August 2001 (our first date was 9/11/2001 of all days!!!!!!!!!!)

Things have been rough as we are both survivors, but we are taking it one step at a time.

The only tip I can give you is to start a new relationship with the intention of friendship first and see what happens. I tried to date in the years 2000-2001 right after my "horrible years" and had a hard time - I was flaky, emotional, and very needy. I really scared a lot of people away - I have no idea if those people would have been a good match for me.. as I was trying to cover up the neediness and the loneliness I was suffering. I doubt I made good choices.

Even when I met my current fiance I was stil that way, but the one thing that helped was that we were friends first, and we started the relationship as no more than friends. We talked about everything - my recent past history, his SA, his alcohol and drug issues, all of that BEFORE we decided to date. At least we went into the relationship with our eyes open.. not wide open, but somewhat....

So, my advice - take it very slow, dont rush into something in order to fulfill a need or longing. If you rush something looking to fill a need you are likely to meet up with someone who is just as needy, which does not make a good relationship. Keep building on yourself while building the friendship and hopefully something will come out of it.

SA and abuse and trauma and PTSD is so loaded and causes so many weird effects that you really need a strong foundation on friendship in order to navigate through and survive the HUGE ups and HUGE downs. To have someone there to work on things together is absolutely amazing. I am lucky that I am involved with an old friend.. we have a long track record of friendship to build on. If you dont have an old friend in your life, then start making a new friend.. and keep emphasis on the FRIEND part, especially in the beginning.

Hope this helps.
 
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