Clearing up orientation issues

Clearing up orientation issues

EdfromNYC

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Another layer is lifting.

I can say that all of my sexual interactions with men that began after getting molested by a guy when I was 13 were about me trying to connect with men in the only way that was ever really shown to me - sexually.

I can see that in my acting out episodes subsequent to my abuse after the initial episode were episodes where I was really trying to connect to the archetypal "male" (as all boys do) and it became sexualized and so I did what someone taught my body to do - connect via sexualized touch and behavior. I can even break down the acting out into the notion that it was also me trying to get to know what the male body was like (which all boys have natural curiosity about - questions about body hair, erections, muscles) but again, rather than doing it with other boys in regular settings, I had been sexualized and tried to connect to the same needs as other boys but in very sick and damaged ways. Grown men took advantage of my needs and further used my having been sexualized against me and I mistakenly seemed to think that I was getting my needs met but I wasn't. I was getting a completely skewed, crazy view of manhood that was separate from the rest of my life and really rooted in shame and eroticization of something that was never meant to be sexualized in the way that it was.

I am writing all of this to write about my experience and to let me off of the hook. I've blamed myself for what I did, hated myself for what I did when in reality what I did is what I was taught by sick men but underneath it I was trying to get my needs for male attention and male closeness met. Also, I had an emotionally void, alcoholic father and just like every boy, I needed a connection as boy to a man and that need was taken full advantage of. Writing this stuff allows me to acknowledge that I did nothing wrong. It's all on the men who took advantage. I was an innocent boy seeking connection when I had none. The fact that I had a sexual reaction to sexual touch has nothing to do with my orientation at all. It has everything to do with a manipulator knowing that I was a needy boy that he could abuse and screw up for his own selfish needs. He was a stranger so I'll never see that person again but I don't need to - I just need to accept that there are evil motherfuckers on this earth and I don't have to make excuses for them.

I'm taking back my sexuality from these men who led me to believe that I was as fully culpable in these sexual situations as they were. They acted as if I was an equal participant and I let them put their own shit that they couldn't deal with on me. I have been a guy who has taken on a lot of other peoples' shit and wondered how do I help them or how do I relieve them and how do I share their burden. It seems to me that many people in the world are happy when they find someone to carry their shit for them. I don't do it anymore. Also, I never did what they did to any kids nor has it even come anywhere into my mind or universe and how lucky am I that I don't have to walk this earth with that on my mind and soul.

I'm committed to relationship intimacy with other people and that includes old abandoned family relationships, new and old friendships and eventually romantic relationships. It's been many years without intimacy including sex and I'm done. Just because I'm done doesn't mean it will change overnight but it will change because I'm committed and it has already been shown to me that I can recover from other behaviors so why wouldn't I be able to recover from intimacy avoidant behaviors? That is my approach - getting beyond intimacy avoidance. One of the things that has been in the way is huge amounts of self blame for my abuse and also a fear-based inability to claim my sexuality as mine to define no matter what anyone else says (and people love to give unsolicited opinions and also try to tamp down these conversations).

Writing about orientation, abuse, masculinity, touch, intimacy, acting out - that is quite a bunch of things for male survivors to approach. A lot of this is about acceptance and a lot of it is about recovery. Where the line is between the two isn't always clear but it doesn't matter. All I know is I can see a future that isn't as bleak, angry and lonely as the past. All because I'm committed and know that I will find the assistance, guidance and support that I need to grow up beyond the boy who stopped growing when he was abused.
 
Good for you, Ed! i support you in your efforts to forge your own path.

Much of what you have said here makes a lot of sense to me.

keep up the good work!
Lee
 
I get a lot of what you are saying as well as your thought processes. Those are some brave roads you seem committed to traveling down, and it is important that you are clearly putting in the work to follow your desired path.

I just want to say that it is totally possible to make great strides - through and past - the intimacy avoidance that you speak of. As I continue to build the selfhood that was lost, learn new things about relating to people, and identify what I feel are my true desires, my desire to share of myself grows.

It is still a risk because people can and will be nincompoops, and they can and will hurt, often without meaning to. But the (usually minor) hurts are worth it because it is more important to find your voice and be more at ease expressing your true self with others. (If for no other reason than that it feels so good and empowering to finally be able to do so ☺).

Feelings that we were formerly afraid to "disobey" (people pleasing, false guilt, fear of saying "no," etc.) also become easier to challenge and disregard, and life takes on a new clarity of sorts, a new strength.

If things with the people in my path get too rough,I just retreat for a bit for some writing, self-reflection, and prayer...and grieving if necessary. Talking things out if possible. Anything else, the therapist or a friend will help me sort out.
 
It is still a risk because people can and will be nincompoops, and they can and will hurt, often without meaning to. But the (usually minor) hurts are worth it because it is more important to find your voice and be more at ease expressing your true self with others. (If for no other reason than that it feels so good and empowering to finally be able to do so ☺).

This is what I am finding. As I change and grow and speak up more, some people will get it and some will resist. I will feel hurt but often it is not intended. I can keep going now whereas in the past, I would stop completely. My confidence in where I am heading is unshakable.

As I commit to being myself and telling about myself in my words and don't worry too much about what others think or how they react (but also being aware of others' feelings as needed), it does feel so good and empowering to be able to do this. It's amazing that once this has started, once I got committed to breaking through my intimacy avoidance stuff, the positive, strong feelings of hearing a voice from me that I've never heard before have been affirming and odd. I can see myself being a confident man for the first time in my life. I've never been confident in being a man among other men. I am able to accept my experience in the experience of all men (and women).

I'm really getting over the self-blame, the people pleasing, the false guilt as you put it. It feels like a house of cards that once I start challenging that stuff, it does come down and I can start building much, much better stuff in its place.

Luckily, like you, I have a therapist, friendships with fellows who I have told what I am undertaking and are willing to support and meet me where I am, journaling and step work via 12 step rooms, now a budding church relationship and I get to help other people on a regular basis too.

I appreciate your posts because you get it and it's clear to me that you do. You've been where I am. I needed that affirmation. Thanks.
 
Thanks, Lee! Appreciate the understanding and support. A lot.
 
Ed, thanks for the new to me term "intimacy avoidance". Something I have done, and continue to do. A simple to the point term.
You have given me another piece of the puzzle to work on to improve my life.
Thanks!
 
EdfromNYC

Wonderful post and it is great to read you are taking back your life and sexuality. These you own and no one else has the right to interfere or confuse a child--sadly CSA does take the victim's life and sense of who they are including sexuality. Be who you truly are meant to be.

I too found your words of "relationship intimacy" to be of value. When I felt abused, abandoned or being tormented in life I did not want intimacy, I wanted to be alone, untouched and thought unloved. I had these feelings of inadequacy that were, in my mind, validated by how others were treating me, abandoning me, putting my illness below the demands of others even though I was supposedly the most important person in their life, feeling troubled and denied. It went on for almost 15 years. I did not value life, I did not want intimacy. I escaped with syncope and dissociation to God knows where. Why we know the answers today but not where but my silence, my ability to let the abuse and abuser and others control my sense of life, locking me in the maze of the abuse, bouncing off walls when I would reach another dead end in the maze kept me from the intimacy I deserved.

I was fortunate, I met others who showed me "true love". A love I cannot explain only feel, a sense of connection and intimacy that I had forgotten but had in years prior to syncope, then lost. I understand how human interaction and treatment impacts a survivor and others, I understand the actions of the survivor impacts those around them, I now understand how the mind works to protect us, or let's us believe we are being protected by the coping mechanisms we adopt--addiction,self harm, dissociation, etc. I value the intimacy I have today and never want to believe again I do not deserve it. It took this woman, with a heart of compassion and understanding, a woman with an open mind and not one closed by inability to learn the truth but to be controlled by others to re-open intimacy for me. Today, I run from those who try to devalue my self worth and have learned they lack an appreciation of their own worth by how they treat, laugh and mock others.

May your road continue upward, may you find the relationship intimacy you so deserve. Thank you for sharing your journey and your words should help many others heal and to accept they need to take control of life and not allow the abuse or abuser to control--

Kevin
 
EdfromNYC,

I appreciate your post. It hit home a lot. I hope for strength for you as you continue your path in recovery.

IJH
 
I have no difficulty being friendly with gay men and feel this is little different to how I see straight men.

I definitely can relate. I always feel like I'm not part of their group or that I'm different. I don't know how to fix that.

I'm also troubled that sexual talk and sexual intimacy with men comes so easily, but is very difficult with my wife...
 
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Thanks for sharing Ed. Gives me a perspective to work on for myself as i am realizing things which you are starting to integrate in your life. I'm not that far yet, but that's ok. I like what you write about taking back your sexuality.

I've got some cleaning to do, cleaning out all the learned behavior and ideas concerning 'my' sexuality and start building it from scratch using my more deeper and more authentic needs and wishes.

Keep us updated if you like :)
 
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