Chickenhawk (men who love boys) BIG TRIGGERS!!!

[john22]

Possibly the follow film was already posted on this forum. It's just that I just saw it on youtube, and I found it really sick. It's about how NAMBLA thinks about "boy loving". The sick thinking of a pedophile is really clear in this film.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygrd29-_O3I

 

[Still]

Good to see you around John22.

For those who watch this, I wonder if you'll find what I did beyond the surface...beyond the stated....inside the gut of the creeps. That is, they desire to devour souls of chiildren. Its quite clear that they have an "innocence fetish." They seek to dine on an innocent child's soul.

These creatures have no interest in men or women of majority-age, seemingly because they lack any innocence. There's only one way to deal with the Devil on this side of the grass; that is, put him back on the right side of the grass, as expeditiously as possible.

The MEN of society once took the protection of children fairly seriously, but not fully. Today however, there's ample support for the pedo. Excuses abound and very publicly too.

This reminds me of one of my favorite videos EVER. In it, you will see a real man dispatching the Devil from our world. Seriously!! I feel a shiver of "Fuck YES!!!" whenever I see it.

Maybe you will too

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They talk about "fitting convicted pedos with subcutaneous insert" for better tracking and recovery. I really like that the pedo in the video was fitted with a very early type of subcutaneous insert. I think it was a .38 spl.

 

[C. E.]

I don't know what to think of either of these posted videos. Frankly, the one about chickenhawks was obviously uncomfortable to watch - I hit the stop button after about three minutes. None of these men were talking about the victims of their crime, only what their indulgences brought to themselves - an ugly, upside-down nightmarish justification of selfish, sick adults taking from children who will pay the ledger for those indulgences for the rest of their lives. The victims are ultimately forgotten - not only by the perpetrators but by the moldy medium of social complacency that allows those perpetrators to thrive.

And the clip of the shooting was just brutal to watch in terms of its absolute value. What Gary Plauche did was justice perhaps for him and his child, but it was ultimately a very personal act motivated by deep emotion. For me, it was a perspective from the sidelines of a desperate measure to right the wrong of a family tragedy that I could not pretend to fully know - the squaring of a personal debt that can never truly be repaid. And so I witnessed a life being snuffed out and find no joy in that, however wretched and undeserving that life may have been.

Did the shooting victim ever get his day in court? Did killing him bring the father peace and balance? Did it make things right for his son? The judge gave Gary Plauche five years probation and he served no time for killing an untried and unconvicted man. I find it hard to accept such a short-circuit of the full process of justice, however imperfect and slow and perhaps dispassionate our court system is. But then, I never got my day in court to confront my molester. The community felt it knew better, and I paid dearly for that. So when I hear those mobs cheer "heroes" like Gary and Ellie Nesler, I don't trust them. Where were they for us? It's easy to join the throng and scream at the "bad guy" once he is tarred and feathered, but quite another to do the real vigilance for our kids - a vigilance so egregiously absent even at institutional dimensions. And we all have read those headlines. How many people pretended not to see what was happening at Penn State and the Second Mile over ten years of systematic abuse by a man who was literally caught in the act and yet released to continue his crimes? They'll hoot and holler on the courthouse steps in Happy Valley at the conviction as if they own it, but where were they for the victims? Are they reaching out to them now? And when people watch the video above and see a perp die, do they think that did something to fix the problem? The world has many more where that one came from. Opening the eyes of those around them does far more, but such social inoculation fails to meet the same emotional bar.

Fortunately, there is a better ending to this particular story than vengeance. The victim of the original crime has grown up to be a fine man, an advocate for others. Jody Plauche has built an impressive resume of constructive work for victims. His father reacted by tearing down a life. Jody is reacting by rebuilding the lives of others. If I was able to turn my own scars to such good use - to help others - I would be far prouder of myself than gunning down my assailant.

 

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Let me be clear:

When I celebrate, applaud, cheer, the vigilante-style punishment (not always murder), I do so in a few modes. None of the reasons prove a legal override to social order whatsoever. I am a HUGE proponent of The United States Constitution, its Amendments and resulting codes that are not contrary to the spirit and intent of said Constitution.

Due Process is mandatory to separate us from ISIS! justice served outside of our criminal procedures and laws is not justice at all (by social defines).

The execution of Ducette provided:

1) demonstration to the public...to society at large, that fathers and mothers will not always tolerate a pedofile's actions long enough or well enough to afford him his Due Process.

2) clarity to law enforcement and governing authorities that legal process and penalty had better be dilligent, swift and severe for pedofiles' actions.

3) demonstration to pedofiles that the Fathers of this nation will in fact override the laws at their own peril and sacrifice...that not even social laws and public policy will protect them.

4) that we value the pedofiles' death as a positive.

5) that there are men out there that willingly sacrifice themselves for illegal justice.

6) that I'm not the only one who predicts offending pedofiles being treated unfairly well.

Baring our laws and policies, we fall to anarchy. The Ducette execution demonstrates to all that "yes, in fact, our human nature is intact and we will seek our own expedited justice when we have little to no faith in the courts and laws. That is, we will seek anarchy if our govt screws up!"

A society that even implies they are "okay-ish" with CSA (a-la Penn State), licenses a certain number of pedos into hunting for children's souls.

I will never fault the mothers or fathers of victims for such reactions. Its parental/human nature. Just as I would drop an ISIS operative in an instant, I would likely do the same to anyone hurting my child in this manner.

Men and women in prison for such a sacrificial move are frequently content with the reason for sitting behind bars. I know a man who pulled a 15-yo (whom raped his son), out of his own house and beat the snot out of him. He went to prison for two years and smiled every day. He was treated as a hero by staff and inmates...and me.

Jody is doing remarkable things, as he was raised well by that father. He has character, as inherited from the environs made by his mother and father. Lessons were learned. Good lessons and bad lessons were learned. But Jody did not "just become" a great CSA warrior by accident. Character is not gained by chance...EVER!

 

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They'll hoot and holler on the courthouse steps in Happy Valley at the conviction as if they own it, but where were they for the victims?

Hooting and celebrating the conviction on the courthouse steps WAS in fact doing something for the victims. It was tell them that "at least this set of citizens are not okay with what happened."

Society must make its position known on ALL maters that effect them. They crowd was saying "we will not tolerate a pedo in our midst, and we support the victims."

We don't know what those same people are doing to support the victims of Penn State, as the media has fully dropped coverage of even the most substantial developments. If Sandusky were to stroll down the streets of Hell Valley today, there would be a certain percentage of people whom would cheer and welcome him back, thus assaulting the heart and soul of the victims. Then there would be the men whom would kick the kidneys out of the demon, thus telling the victims "we will not stand for this!"

Yes CSA is personal. Person-to-person, etc. But crime is societal. There is not ONE criminal court or persecutor that represents the actual, victim-corpus! In 100% of this nation's criminal cases, society is the plaintiff. Very few people in this nation understand that these days (e.g: Ferguson MO).

 

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In 1985, Gary Plauche pleaded no contest to a manslaughter charge and received a suspended sentence of seven years in prison, five years of probation and hundreds of hours of community service. Other than pre-trial jail time, Gary Plauche never spent time in prison for shooting Doucet.Oct 23, 2014

WHY WAS WAS THIS?????

Our Courts (including the General Court - aka Congress), reflect our societal values and mores. Its THAT simple!

By the time the trial ended and the hype died down, Gary Plauche went back to a semi-regular life.

Regular in the sense that he returned to work as a heavy equipment salesman during the day, volunteering in the evening to coach many of his kids sports teams.

Irregular in that he and his son, Jody, would make appearances on local and national news programs recounting the fateful events of 1984 until recently.

Just last year, both appeared in an ESPN special report titled A Time To Kill: The Jody Plauche Story, in which Gary Plauche said he didnt regret shooting Doucet. He would do it again if he had to do it all over, he said.

Thank you LA criminal courts and social values!!!!!!!! you rock!

Gary Plauche, man who killed sons accused molester, dies

 

[C. E.]

Due Process is mandatory to separate us from ISIS! justice served outside of our criminal procedures and laws is not justice at all (by social defines).

The execution of Ducette provided:

1) demonstration to the public...to society at large, that fathers and mothers will not always tolerate a pedofile's actions long enough or well enough to afford him his Due Process.

On one hand you say that due process is mandatory, and that justice served outside the courts is not justice at all. Yet you go on to laud the lack of such due process and "celebrate" vigilantism. Considering that the legal process is inherently messy and cannot always guarantee the conditions you have stated of being "diligent, swift and severe," do you advocate re-codifying the laws to allow swift and severe mob justice to take precedence over due process in cases of pedophilia?

 

[Still]

Due Process is mandatory to separate us from ISIS! justice served outside of our criminal procedures and laws is not justice at all (by social defines).

The execution of Ducette provided:

1) demonstration to the public...to society at large, that fathers and mothers will not always tolerate a pedofile's actions long enough or well enough to afford him his Due Process.

On one hand you say that due process is mandatory, and that justice served outside the courts is not justice at all. Yet you go on to laud the lack of such due process and "celebrate" vigilantism. Considering that the legal process is inherently messy and cannot always guarantee the conditions you have stated of being "diligent, swift and severe," do you advocate re-codifying the laws to allow swift and severe mob justice to take precedence over due process in cases of pedophilia?

Human nature will never vanish. There will always be impassioned crime. That crime is dealt with as a separate crime with its own circumstances. Human nature drove the execution and then there were results.

The single act of murder is covered by its own laws. The father killed in reaction to the human nature that is a reality and ultimately commanded the day. He willingly took the consequences according to the law. The judge played his role in employing sentencing guidelines according to the circumstances.

I don't see any "mob" in this ruling. I see law & order having been created and applied to one murder. There is no justification for the murder by the absolute black-letter law, but our system is not just "code."

Judges and juries have a great deal of sway in such cases. Our court systems are not simple binary application of law. That separate crime stood on its own.

But yes, I laud the sacrifice the father selfishly made and endured. I know that he would always regret failing to act in this manner. I also commend him for offering no resistance, and throwing himself upon the nature of the court. Human nature will never be denied its run. Mine celebrates the dispatch of the soul murdering scoundrel, the sacrifice of the father, and the existence of judicial roles.