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Squigy,
The issue of an unmoderated forum was hashed out and debated at great length before it was instituted. The unmoderated term may be somewhat of a misnomer because obviously a person cannot go nuts and attack anyone personally or say things that are obviously meant to inflame. However, it has been a place where more controversial opinions have been expressed, and it is also a place where more 'triggering' postings have been posted. Survivors who do not wish to be 'triggered' by sometimes pointed and provocative postings would probably not want to read some of the postings in the Unmoderated forum. I feel that our directorship and moderators did an excellent job of recognizing the need for and therefore creating the Unmoderated forum ... and striking a nice balance to address the needs of all survivors.
I'm confused as to your following quote:
Peace, Andrew
The issue of an unmoderated forum was hashed out and debated at great length before it was instituted. The unmoderated term may be somewhat of a misnomer because obviously a person cannot go nuts and attack anyone personally or say things that are obviously meant to inflame. However, it has been a place where more controversial opinions have been expressed, and it is also a place where more 'triggering' postings have been posted. Survivors who do not wish to be 'triggered' by sometimes pointed and provocative postings would probably not want to read some of the postings in the Unmoderated forum. I feel that our directorship and moderators did an excellent job of recognizing the need for and therefore creating the Unmoderated forum ... and striking a nice balance to address the needs of all survivors.
I'm confused as to your following quote:
Do you honestly think that the roots of atheism and evolution are based on the premise of humans not wanting to be accountable? This would suggest that the only reason for not believing in God and the theory of creation is that we don't want to be accountable to authority. Maybe ... but then a statement like this would be a perfect argument for creating an Unmoderated Forum!
Peace, Andrew
James_dup1
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Well looks like your a leaper my friend. lol 
. Well the unmod forum.......ummmmmmm......well..as it was said it gives us a place to vent if we need to, however in doing that venting we sometimes forget that there's a person on the other end and not just words on a screen in the safty of ones home (I'm guilty of this). So not real sure about a safe place to talk about triggering things or things like that. The times I've used it has been because I've been mad at someone on the board and thats where we hashed it out. But it seems that the heated issues that come up on that forum seems to be more of a place that we can yell at someone and not get the post deleted by the powers to be. (((hugs)))
James
. Well the unmod forum.......ummmmmmm......well..as it was said it gives us a place to vent if we need to, however in doing that venting we sometimes forget that there's a person on the other end and not just words on a screen in the safty of ones home (I'm guilty of this). So not real sure about a safe place to talk about triggering things or things like that. The times I've used it has been because I've been mad at someone on the board and thats where we hashed it out. But it seems that the heated issues that come up on that forum seems to be more of a place that we can yell at someone and not get the post deleted by the powers to be. (((hugs)))James
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Hmm, I am not quite sure I 'get' the entire idea of both you and Andrew! (Not a mental giant here!)
But, I think that there is something somewhat liberating in an unmoderated forum. Because, really, isn't it a nice thing to occasionally break the rules, or at least bend them? (Anyone who has driven with me knows I have firm belief in this matter!) We lost so much control in our lives, with what was done to us. We lost such boundaries, and such safety. Sometime, it is just nice to be able to say &^*$^^(**())_&^(*&^%$ right out and get it over with!
So, maybe it is like the playground without the teacher watching to make sure you don't steal someone else's turn on the slide!
Not that it makes any sense, but that is my opinion!
leosha
But, I think that there is something somewhat liberating in an unmoderated forum. Because, really, isn't it a nice thing to occasionally break the rules, or at least bend them? (Anyone who has driven with me knows I have firm belief in this matter!) We lost so much control in our lives, with what was done to us. We lost such boundaries, and such safety. Sometime, it is just nice to be able to say &^*$^^(**())_&^(*&^%$ right out and get it over with!
So, maybe it is like the playground without the teacher watching to make sure you don't steal someone else's turn on the slide!Not that it makes any sense, but that is my opinion!
leosha
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James_dup1
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OK....just my two cents on this...now in another post Ken said
James
.........so if this is acting out..then is the unmod forum a place to vent or act out? And if it's a place to act out then does that mean there are ways to act out that are empowering to ones recovery? And why as survivors do we sugar coat the terms we use to describ whats going on in our lives. Make refernce to your other post about acting out. So if the unmod forum is just a place to act out by the way it's defined here.....then do we need a place to act out and if so why?
James
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The name seems to be misleading some people.
It's not a dumping ground for rude behavior and personal attacks. A quick visit there makes the difference apparent.
It's a place for the less held-back posts, the ones that might have some curse words in them, and other common triggers. I think having a venting place, within proper limits (!!), is a good thing, and prevents turning it inward. It's how people often talk in group therapy, or across a table about this abuse crap.
The name implies caution. It could have been accurately called 'The More Triggersome Forum', if that sounds better to you.
Regards,
Tb
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We may be attaching a different meaning to words, especially 'venting'.
The 'venting' I'm thinking of is letting off steam into the atmosphere, dumping it on no one. An example, posting: "I'm so dam* sick of this illness, and I just wish I'd been born into a normal family!" Yes I think that's healthy.
If you were raised around a family where 'venting' usually meant someone got insulted and taumatized (abused), it might still carry that meaning to you.
'Acting out' carries a totally different connotation to me. For instance, grabbing a person by the shirt collar and threatening a fight is acting out in my book--that's a very different thing, and unhealthy.
But if the terms are interchangable equals to you, there is probably no way for us to agree on the subject.
Tribear
unknownsoldier
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I'm not sure I understand what way of thinking this discussionis about. Is it about whether venting is unhealthy or not. Or a focus on one's own needs above everyone else's (being unaccountable)? Brain's a little slow tonight.
Jim
Jim
Bill_1965
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Squigy,
I don't think that "venting" in the unmoderated form is acting in or acting out. Quite contrary, it is releasing your feelings in manner that is not destructive to yourself or others, a healthier alternative to acting in or acting out. As is this empowering or disempowering - it's a step to empowerment. A big step to getting in touch with our real feelings and ultimately understanding them.
So I would definately say that it is healthy. What is not healthy is holding them in and letting them tear you apart from the inside. Isn't this the purpose of therapy? Isn't this what we do when we go to the trained professionals? If it was not healthy to release and share your feelings, the psychology would be in serious question.
As to the misunderstood question of whether or not the Unmoderated Forum is even needed. Probably not. Everything in there could be posted in the other forums with a "trigger" warning, but it is nice to have the more upsetting topics set apart.
Back to the actual question - is this an example as to a way of thinking that we, as survivors, need to be protected from certain things and have warning labels placed on them? Yes and no. Yes, we need to be able to identify and understand the things that trigger us. No to the effect that everyone, not just survivors, should not seek out things that upset them. To do so would be a form of acting in. Is this healthy? Yes. For the simple reason that we have a method of avoiding a trigger, until such time we can handle it.
Bill
I don't think that "venting" in the unmoderated form is acting in or acting out. Quite contrary, it is releasing your feelings in manner that is not destructive to yourself or others, a healthier alternative to acting in or acting out. As is this empowering or disempowering - it's a step to empowerment. A big step to getting in touch with our real feelings and ultimately understanding them.
So I would definately say that it is healthy. What is not healthy is holding them in and letting them tear you apart from the inside. Isn't this the purpose of therapy? Isn't this what we do when we go to the trained professionals? If it was not healthy to release and share your feelings, the psychology would be in serious question.
As to the misunderstood question of whether or not the Unmoderated Forum is even needed. Probably not. Everything in there could be posted in the other forums with a "trigger" warning, but it is nice to have the more upsetting topics set apart.
Back to the actual question - is this an example as to a way of thinking that we, as survivors, need to be protected from certain things and have warning labels placed on them? Yes and no. Yes, we need to be able to identify and understand the things that trigger us. No to the effect that everyone, not just survivors, should not seek out things that upset them. To do so would be a form of acting in. Is this healthy? Yes. For the simple reason that we have a method of avoiding a trigger, until such time we can handle it.
Bill