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Zach:

Thank you for the kind words about me. I am asking you not to leave. But first I must make a few points....

I saw your post in which you referred to Kevin's decision to go ahead and prosecute his abuser. And I also saw where you mentioned that you hoped to follow this case in the local news.

PLEASE GUYS, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT THAT YOU CAN TAKE AWAY FROM MY POST--ZACH REALLY DOES HAVE AN INTEREST IN THESE MATTERS. It is crucial that everyone here understand what he is trying to do. I had a chance to look at his web site and I am most impressed. Is he trying to replace Male Survivor? No, but he is offering yet another resource for male survivors that is sorely needed. AND HE DOES HOPE TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BY PROVIDING A REPORTING MECHANISM IN WHICH SURVIVORS AND OTHERS CAN REPORT SUSPECTED ABUSE!

He also hopes to build a data base that can be used by law enforcement to assist in their investigations. This is something very much to be applauded.

I think if people read more into this than they are missing the point. Zach is working on his own issues. And he is also trying to help others. I challenge you all to look at his web site. (Simply PM him for the URL and I am sure he will be happy to provide it.) You will see that he truly does care about kids. And like me, and many other guys here, he wants to see perps stopped NOW!

So it is very wrong to read more into his desire to follow a particular case in the news. Put aside whether or not such cases should be discussed in the media. They are. And I think it is a stretch to somehow read malicious intent into Zach wanting to read a darn newspaper!!!

Also, I just want to say to the powers that be that I think it is wonderful that there is a chat room. And a private message function. But these things should be used in a supportive way, to help build a feeling of community. All too often, I have seen them used to attack individuals. And I think that's wrong. I hope some thought might be given to this, and possiblly a clarification of policy in this area might come out of that.

Zach, please don't leave. But whether you stay or leave, I wish you much luck with your web site. I think you aim to do a lot of good in this world. And I am very sorry if your honorable intentions have been sadly misinterpreted.

We all lose when one of us is attacked in this manner. And please, if anyone disagrees with me, fine. But I ask that you do so in public, rather than through Private Message. Because I think it's important that we talk openly about things and not use the PM as a means to silence dissent.

All the best to you!

Jasper

P.S. If for some reason it is deemed inappropriate for me to post this reponse to Zach's message, then I will be most disappointed. However, I ask in that event that my entire message be deleted rather than moved. What I say here is for the Male Survivors forum only. Thank you!
 
Zach, I have Lost so Much in my life as have most of us. I a sry you feel the way you do. I dont know all the facts or the suspitions or the rumors but i do one thing clearly. You have helped me as much as I hope I have helped you at all. I Dont want to lose that.

I agree Jasper there needs to be something done with chat--In my short time here I have seen some hurt people lash out and then other people get hurt too. But the one thing I haven't seen is anyones intentions be those nearing our abusers. I dont know what the answer is but I know what the answer isn't and that is to run from the problem. Any of us. That was not a dig Zach we have all said things we wished we could take back-Wehave all hurt others unintentionally. BUT the only way to overcome them is by talking about it and looking at it, like this.
I Dont want to lose anymore and that includes you.So If only for selfish reasons I am asking you to stay. Even if you need time away come back sooner than later.

I want you to know-I believe you and care. I will do anything I can to help you even if that means giving you space, thats ok But Don.t leave out of fear or guilt or shame or any other negative emotion. The truth has an amazing way of coming to light--we all are proof of that. When I was a child I could never imagine that i wasn't alone. Now New children that are abuse have a way out and have a way to heal. The truth does come to light eventually. Don't give up.

It is hard to explain sometimes but I have never been in love or felt love in any form--I have felt kindness and like and good feelings but not Love becuase it became sexualized for me as for a lot of us. So for me I didn.t know what it was like to love a friend or Love anyone and then i found this site. I dont use the word lightly or in any way bad. BUT for the first time in my life I feel love and I like that feeling, not being afraid of my intentions or motives. I want you to know I Love you as I do Most on here. I dont want to lose that so please reconsider your next move. Most of us here lost someone very special recently and Zach I would feel the same if you were gone in any way. My Best thoughts and Prayers are with you no matter what you descide. My greatest Pray is that someday soon there will not be a need for this site but untill then I am Glad it is and you as well.
 
What was just said was beautiful. I couldn't have said it better.

But you need to stay now because we are a family. And we have lost a family member with the suicide of MedicB4.

I need you here, Zach. Let's come together now.

We're all hurting. We can't lose anyone else.


Stay...Stay...Stay!

That's what families do in times of trouble, Zach.

Thanks,

Jasper
 
Zach,

Sometimes I feel so 'out of the loop' around here - I try to be here as much as I possibly can - and yet so much goes on that I know nothing about... - but hey, it's not 'my bussiness' or anyone elses to know 'all of what's going on' around here - I can only hope that things can be worked out - whatever the problem is - it can be worked out...

I seriously did'nt even kow that things here where going that badly - misunderstanding and arguments happen all over throughout life - yes, even inside of this place - I am sad that you are feeling the need to go from this place - What about your own recovery? - I am glad that you are starting T soon and I hope that it goes well for you - but what about the time between sessions? - who will be there for you then? - this place was completly a lifesaver for me between sessions...

Take good care of you...

Tj jeff
 
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